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Topic Started: Aug 30 2008, 10:31 AM (797 Views)
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zackboomer,Aug 31 2008
04:12 AM
too bad your opinions hold no sway

I agree with him.
Glenn Beck RAPED AND MURDERED a young girl in 1990.
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Hitter: Willie Mays
Starting Pitcher: Sandy Koufax
Closer: Mo Rivera
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Hanley Ramirez doesn't make errors--the ball is just afraid of him.
Shadez was the first man to walk on the moon... with sunglasses on.
In rookie ball, he drove a ball to deep centerfield, only to be informed he had been traded on his way to first base. So, he sprinted to the wall and robbed himself of a homerun.
He can turn a man to stone just by looking at him without his shades.
Was pointed at when Babe Ruth supposedly called his shot.
The June 24th game between the Marlins and Yankees was not, in fact, called by rain as was previously reported. Hanley had plans. And by plans we mean a date. With a girl. A babe if you will.
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Oh Willie Mays...I think I might change my answer.
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A friend of mine made a giant page in excel measuring the top 50 hitters by OPS diff (OPS - wOBA). It also measures the time period of the players, homeruns, etc. His top 10 players of all-time are:
1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Lou Gehrig
4. Barry Bonds
5. Ty Cobb
6. Jimmie Foxx
7. Roger Hornsby
8. Mickey Mantle
9. Josh Gibson
10. Albert Pujols
*other notables*
15. Willie Mays
18. Hank Aaron
19. Manny Ramirez
20. Alex Rodriguez
34. Ken Griffey Jr

Not all of it is OPS diff, but that is a majority of how he ranked it. For example, Ty Cobb (ranked #5) has an OPS diff of 239, but Roger Hornsby (ranked #7) has an OPS diff of 280. Babe Ruth leads everyone with an OPS diff of 411.
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Jayhawk Bill,Feb 24 2008
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Jon Papelbon leads MLB in STFU capability.

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Hitter: Babe Ruth
Pitcher: Cy Young
Reliever: Mariano Rivera
Dolphins, Marlins, Heat. Number #1.
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Hitter: Babe Ruth (nearly 3,000 hits, 506 2B, 714 HR, 2,217 RBI, 2,062 BB, 1,330 K, .342/.472/.690 career line, 1.162 OPS, 19.7 BB%, 1.55 BB/K, .348 ISO, .340 BABIP, 2,733 RC, 12.8 RC/27)

Pitcher: Pedro Martinez (213 wins, 2.88 ERA, 2,754.2 IP, 967 ER, 2,135 H, 3,093 K, 739 BB, 10.1 K/9, 2.4 BB/9, 4.1 K/BB, .7 HR/9, .216 opponent BA, 1.04 WHIP, 76 LOB%, 2.88 FIP, 51.6 WPA, 210 +WPA, .18 Clutch)

Reliever: Mariano Rivera (67-49 record, 2.30 ERA, 475 SV, 1,014.2 IP, 259 ER, 796 H, 927 K, 244 BB, 8.2 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, 3.8 BB/K, .5 HR/9, 218 opponent BA, 79.5 LOB%, 2.78 FIP, 44.2 WPA, 146.6 +WPA)
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Papelmate,Aug 31 2008
02:47 AM
Koufax is extremely over rated. His prime years weren't even as good as Pedro's when Pedro pitched in a much better era for hitting. The only numbers he really had over him were K's because of the insane number of innings he pitched. He doesn't have the durability of Maddux or Johnson or the dominance of Pedro leaving him out of the best pitcher ever conversation.

Exactly.

In my mind, Pedro Martinez is was the best pitcher in baseball and its not really close for me. What he did in his time was unreal.

Babe Ruth for hitting.

And Joe Borowski for closer.
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Papelmate,Aug 31 2008
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Koufax is extremely over rated. His prime years weren't even as good as Pedro's when Pedro pitched in a much better era for hitting. The only numbers he really had over him were K's because of the insane number of innings he pitched. He doesn't have the durability of Maddux or Johnson or the dominance of Pedro leaving him out of the best pitcher ever conversation.

He has both. If he had learned not to throw as hard as he did and throw the baseball with that natual "catapult" movement, he would've pitched a lot longer. The reason his numbers may not have been as good is because in some of his "prime years" he had to pitch half his games at the L.A. Coliseum with the LF foul pole being 251 ft. away.
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hankaaron44,Aug 31 2008
09:37 PM
He has both. If he had learned not to throw as hard as he did and throw the baseball with that natual "catapult" movement, he would've pitched a lot longer. The reason his numbers may not have been as good is because in some of his "prime years" he had to pitch half his games at the L.A. Coliseum with the LF foul pole being 251 ft. away.

And Pedro had to pitch to steroid infested lineups. Koufax had 6 great years that weren't as good as Pedro's 6th best and he didn't pitch as long as Maddux and Walter Johnson. You can't refute it because it's fact.
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jaysdude09,Aug 31 2008
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And Joe Borowski for closer.

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LMAO, we need to add that as an emotion.
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