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◄ Round Eleven ►; The Return
Topic Started: Dec 6 2013, 04:58 PM (1,186 Views)
William Stryker
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Hmm. So overall, I guess the 4 going back, I'm all fine with. I actually don't think there's any combination that would have been "bad". He had done well in the trials, but in reality, Venom would have been a weak link going back in and really, I have no idea what he would have done with the picks at all. He's afraid of Titan people and doesn't really know anybody else, so he possibly would have just been pulling a name out of a hat.

The more I think about the possibilities and try to map out these picks, the less grasp I have on it.

Starting them off... what in the HELL would Erik even do with his pick? So far as I see it, there are a few options, one of these which should more or less be a backup plan when people have no idea what to do with this shit.

1. He can take someone from Utopia. I just don't see him wanting to pick up Muir Island and possibly recreating that same exact tribe that just booted Shaw.

2. He can take someone like a Bruce or Pepper or something that would be "next boot" on the current tribe. They wouldn't be roping in some huge alliance.

3. He can try to reunite Asteroid-M. :lol: He would try with Charles and maybe with Raven, but I don't think he and Ivan would get along. He did poorly on those lists though, so I'm not sure who are people he could rely on otherwise or who he got to know well.

Beast's picks we've spoken about plenty of times. If Charles is there, he should easily be his #1 pick. After that, signs point to it being the Genosha men in a row there. I know there were assumptions that it would go Rogers > Thor for 4th and 5th member of this tribe, but that won't happen. I also realize that Johann wasn't even mentioned, but he could always go to Stark tribe if he takes another branch of Genosha. Rogers will take some "throw-away" as their 5th, and I don't think Thor will even be available.

Stark should be going for Bruce who would likely take Johnny, but who the fuck knows with this guy? He may decide to strand his allies to go pick up Pepper. If that happens, things get fucked up around here.

Harry obviously should be picking Pepper first if she's still there. There's no way he lets her by if she's there. If she isn't there, then I have no idea. I don't think he'd want to touch Utopia or Muir Island, so I would think he'd try something like Bruce or Raven and try to get a 2 for 1. However, if he does get Pepper, I think she'd turn around and pick Thor. Where he'd go from there is anybody's guess, or at least seems that way to me now as I'm doing this without reading anything.

But yeah, I think besides maybe Erik, who would be walking into a trap, I think people will more or less try to avoid picking anybody that will set the picks down a path to have Utopia people taken early, and probably same for Muir Island, sans Pepper. If Pepper and all of Genosha are taken in the first 12-15 picks, I would not be surprised at all. Genosha obviously has a big alliance, but they're going to be pulled several ways with this and at least are connected to people that are starting the picks/going to be picking early. Who really has a strong connection with the Utopia people, and who would be dumb enough to get any of them on their team as one of the first 3 people?
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alol... just when I was going to read SGs too. Fuck. I forgot you were posting this shit at 5, but I guess I lost track of time.

and obviously, I expect picks to get totally fucked up and retarded shit to happen because people no-show and instead don't pick some easy boots when they're picking the 5th or 6th person.
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It's hard to read as much into these lists as I'd like, because these are not necessarily how people would pick, even before the point of trying to pick up throw-away people. Based on the lists and filling in some blanks, if it were just that, it would be similar to this I think:

Erik would be Susan > Elektra > Johnny > Loki > Emma

Hank still seems unblocked in Charles > Peter > Steve > Ivan > Ororo

Stark is looking to have something like Bruce, Natasha, Anna, Logan, and Bobby

Harry will go Pepper > Thor > Johann > Raven > Benjamin Grimm

I don't expect it to be like that, and I'm not sure if that's 100% accurate, because one missed name way up there could throw this all off and I formed these off early assumptions, not by going pick-by-pick. That's based on an assumption of Johnny as well, though it's a pretty fair assumption. Same with Charles. Both of them have been on, and I know Johnny will just wait til too late to PM/the morning/not bother, but I don't know Charles's reason. I don't expect people to want to go straight down their lists if they show up, because that would be completely and totally stupid for so many people. It would mean phase 3 is essentially phase 2, part 2 for at least two of these tribes.

For all their whining, considering one bad pick can make or break someone in this game, they'll be fools if they miss this if they feasibly could make it. One simple move could cripple one's own alliance even.
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Elektra putting Johnny 2nd and Johnny then putting her 2nd to last.

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Ignorance is bliss, I guess?
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Johnny's list is so confusing to me :lol: I wish he could confess more. Why doesn't he like Elektra, again?
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He's never actually liked her the way she thinks, I don't think. He was just on that side with her the way the tribe split. It was more or less that they were both against the Spiderpeople, but not actually "together" other than for that purpose. He'd always cared most back then about Rogers and I think Thor? I don't know. He has basically hated everyone on each tribe he's been on and more or less just has to "put up with them".
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I just thought maybe he defaulted into liking her once his entire Xandar (minus Tony of course) tribe turned on him immediately after the swap :lol: But I guess it's Snoopz we're talking about here, he's usually not gonna fake like someone he can't stand lol.

This tribe break down will be very interesting. A lot is going to have to do with who actually shows up for the event and what not. I'm guessing a lot of them will though. They have put an insane amount of work in this game up until this point so I can't see many of them leaving this to chance.

As for the Fantastic Four...do they pick in a certain order? I'm assuming that is listed somewhere but I either missed it or haven't really looked. But yeah if the tribes end up like Stryker posted then let's see what the dynamics would be...

Erik/Susan/Elektra/Johnny/Loki/Emma --> This tribe would be stacked but I think it would also be split right down the middle 3 v 3 with Johnny siding with Loki and Emma. Maybe Johnny can convince Susan/Elektra to vote out Erik first and then he can boot them. Who knows. I also need to check and see what the tiebreaker is for this format.

Hank/Charles/Peter/Steve/Ivan/Ororo ---> Well Ivan and Ororo would leave 1 and 2, probably with Ororo first. Then who knows. Depends how well Hank reasserts himself, which I imagine will be pretty well.

Stark/Bruce/Natasha/Anna/Logan/Bobby ---> This would be a hilarious shakedown b/c Stark and Bruce would be fucked but Natasha and Logan are both going on vacation or whatever so maybe they would be fucked. Who knows.

Harry/Pepper/Thor/Johann/Raven/Ben ---> This one would be very interesting. Harry/Pepper have a thing. Pepper/Thor have a thing. Johann/Thor were in an alliance together. Raven/Johann is ok. Ben is connected to Johann solidly. Idk wtf would happen here but my guess would be Harry and Raven on the outs.

I know this shit probs won't look like this at all but it's fun to guess lol.
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I assume it's in order of time I presume. At least that's how I sort of worked out the picks.

I don't know if you saw Rogers's latest confessional about wanting a core of him, Johnny, Susan, and Elektra. It would be a ~MiRAcLe~ if Johnny didn't want to kill everyone in this alliance, especially Steve, for roping him into it.

Besides, I'm not sure exactly how that would work. Erik would pick Susan who would pick Elektra who would pick Johnny. Hank would pick Charles who picks Parker who picks Rogers the pick right after Johnny.

Also, the thing about Stark's tribe in the above scenario? That's his one saving grace there, if those two miss events and thus don't have a vote. Also, if Bobby doesn't fill out a list (he has about 9 hours?) then he would be going to Harry's tribe as the default last pick.

Your last line is completely right though. Unless nobody shows up except people that will still make obvious picks, it will probably be a good bit different. I think a bunch of the trends will remain the same though. I guess this is more like one of those mock drafts and then sitting down and analyzing the round by round picks and overall strengths/weakness of teams.
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One thing I didn't take into account (and I don't know if you did either) is the people with Tesseracts. In this case, that Beast/Genosha group should consider stopping once they have Beast/Charles/Parker on the tribe. They'll have 4 votes, and if they can make sure that Anna and Emma are nowhere near, the three will coast through this stage.

Similarly, the 3-3 that you thought may happen with Johnny/Loki/Emma in that situation would actually be a 4-3 right there.
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Oh yes, the Tesseract. I guess I was just putting it with the other items that won't work once a tribe is down to six. I think a lot of people will be kicking themselves for not trying as hard as they could have b/c a tesseract in the next round is fucking deadly.
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Why are you guys dissecting this so hard? Or trying to predict it? I mean, I am not saying don't or anything. I just don't care about how this works out as much as you guys seem to, lul

Also, the picking order from the Fantastic 4 will be in order of how they did on the last Duel so..

Magneto
Beast
Iron Man
Hobgoblin

Hopefully that helps your theories and analysis of all of this. :bz
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Aunt May,Dec 6 2013
11:43:26 PM
I know this shit probs won't look like this at all but it's fun to guess lol.

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Also when Captain America's ass gets handed to him by the likes of Elektra and Susan Storm I am not going to be sad. I actually really hope some of the people who are being naive and stupid get got. It's deserved.
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Aunt May,Dec 7 2013
12:44:21 AM
Aunt May,Dec 6 2013
11:43:26 PM
I know this shit probs won't look like this at all but it's fun to guess lol.

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I didn't see that one. :wq
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William Stryker
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Seriously, it's fun, and it's something to do. Calm down! I even described it more of a "mock draft and analysis" not that I was sitting here and definitively saying "These will be the final 14" because I wasn't even 100% sure if I messed up somewhere in the order, though those are feasible picks in spite of changes that will be made since PMs returned.
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