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◄ Round Twentytwo ►; R.I.P Cap :'(
Topic Started: Dec 19 2013, 05:41 AM (719 Views)
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Losing Steve sucks, not gonna lie. I just started to deeply love him in this again, like hardcore in this merge. He played the shit out of the game, through and through and I am so glad he kept fighting and planning and plotting and hoping. And I was hoping with him, not gonna lie. I knew the Anna vote wouldn't work either, but I would have been happy with either result.

Was he really as big a threat as they think he was? I don't know. Maybe with the right combo too. Like Peter and Harry. But still, I am not okay with people just saying Peter shouldn't win this game. And I know he isn't winning and he knows he isn't winning. And he hasn't hidden it, he is very aware of everything going on. And it just bothers me that that little circle of haters can't bring up anything legit about how his game sucked.

What's even worse is shit like this:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/Marvel0us/inde...post&p=22166287

So this discussion is about Peter's game, right? so lets see how he went over Peter's game, ok?

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I feel like he made a lot of really stupid decisions most notably actually wanting to go to the final 3 with you since you would have wiped the floor with him. People were always scared to target him too which was super annoying. I was not scared, and I did it when it was in my best interest and then after the merge it was never in my best interest since I always had a chance at him voting with me, even though he drove me insane.


He made a lot of really stupid decisions most notably actually wanting to go to the final 3 with his number 1, because he would have lost against him? Okay, that was a decision he didn't actually make, because he's near the end game now and Steve isn't there and he didn't take him with him.

But even with that, how is it okay for Hank to be up Psycho X's ass and wanting to play for him? He would have sat next to him right? But Peter can't show his loyalty to his number 1? Someone who has been his number 1 since final 50 and he lived with for 20 rounds? lulwut Is he serious? This is also coming from the person who has taken his own number 1 to the end without question, so like?

And then he goes on to say that people were always scared to target him, which was so annoying? But he wasn't afraid to target him, but never did because he needed him to vote with him, alol did he actually say that? And that he had an idol that he earned and people were afraid to target him and that was his bad decision or bad gameplay how? Peter outing his idol the minute he got it is a reason he is still around, but not just that, he did play the game.

Let's move on to the next paragraph though...

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But see there's being real and there's being a crybaby. Peter's upfrontness was never "I made the best move for myself sorry" because that is something I can respect and why we still got along after you voted for me. My paranoia ruined that but that wasn't your fault.


What is this? Is he just making this up or reaching for anything? Because how exactly was Peter never straight up with Hank or anyone? He's actually been very blunt with people for a while. Didn't we see PMs where he told Hank what was up? I am not sure what the hell this even is?

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Peter wasn't even real? He was so full of shit all the time. I would call him out on things he did like join the alliance with Counter-Earth + you against me, and he went into a no joke 5 paragraph rant about why there is no reason why I shouldn't trust him and he is TIRED of these accusations against him and what did he ever do to me? Well he did exactly what I accused him of. That's not real. And it's why I always respected you a lot more than him.


Peter wasn't real? Where is the gameplay in this again? He called him out how he was against him? He was never against him with that alliance until AFTER they had it out the last time. Before that, it was his own delusions in what he called his "Smuffy moment" of paranoia. Then Loki made some shit up to play into his shit, because at that point in time, Peter was not against Hank. This was even after Hank and Psycho started treating Peter and Steve like shit on Aqua and right after. Peter asked you what he ever did to you, because he did nothing to you. That is real and now you always respected Steve more? wut You wanted them both dead and were pissed you lost to Steve in the duel, so lol? I don't even know anymore with this.

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Peter's idol and a duel format took lots of heat off him that would have otherwise been there because of his shitty social game. Which sucks since me and you and Johann were so close to them. cry.gif That would have been such a different game, and I wouldn't have been first boot if I got one.


Peter's idol and a duel format took the heat off Peter, because his social game wouldn't have been able to save him either? wtf is that? Why does Peter have a shitty social game? And then it sucks that he got the idols because he was so close to getting it and wouldn't have been first boot if he an immunity idol? What about playing your reactor or knowing that the others had an alliance without you? And I know that Hank didn't have permissions for the reactor window and when he told me, I asked him if he wanted to play one. I would have let him cus of my err, and he said no.

Moving on...

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I guess the thing that really bothers me the most is how out of touch he is. So many people in this game have issues with him but he is the kind of person that thinks everyone else is the problem and that he couldn't have possibly done anything to cause the situation he is in. And I just wish he would own the game moves he made instead of crying all the damn time. And even if he did it in FTC it's too little too late for me personally I think.

I feel like there's more I could have said but idk. emerald.gif


And now, to end this, the thing that bothers him the MOST is how out of touch he is? Really? So many people in this game have issues with him. Okay, yes. Elektra does because she is mental. She tried to have him booted on Xandar 3 times and every time it didn't work and she got heat, she caved. And now she blames him forever for continuing to target her, when everyone else was too. And Hank and Psycho wouldn't have ever gotten turned on or had anything sour happen if they didn't try to vote Peter out, like why are they forgetting that happened? Why does Hank act like the victim. If he almost got voted out, which he never did, he was just scared he might be. And he is acting like he was a target and treated unfairly, he wasn't. Anyway, my point was that first line about how he's out of touch, look at this:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/Marvel0us/inde...post&p=22166279

Does any of that, look like Peter is oblivious or what? Because he knows exactly what's going on for him here. And he has all game. I think the only time he wasn't aware of shit around him was when he didn't get that Thor/Cap were playing the middle of Xandar and were voting out his allies. But then, they did go through a lot to hide that for a while.

That other part too...I wish he could own the game moves he made instead of crying all the time. When has he not owned up to shit? This is a joke at this point.

This is sort of like Mr. Blonde all over again? But not really that much. Only Peter is with Anna and Loki and any of them winning will be a very worthy and satisfying winner of this game. Honestly, after Psycho X left I was kind of relieved, lul And it's not about how I think Peter should win over Rogue or Loki, it's not that. Although I can see how all three of their games can hold up to the others in FTC, how hot would that be? That would be a smoking final 3, not gonna lie but I really don't give a shit who wins in this group. Harry can't win, but a Rogue, Loki or Peter win would be the perfect ending to this game. All have been some of my absolute favorites all game. This really is a great final 4.

I just feel bad because of the way some of those idiots are in the jury with Peter, this is like the Glee jury. Such good and solid logical gamers are so petty and ridiculous. ILT I am not shocked by, lul Daz, not him either. I know cards can be like this, I just haven't seen him like this in forever.

Anyways, all that said. I love Peter and I don't think his game should be discredited by not actually having done anything outside of his best interests or outside of regular game play. Saying he is the devil for getting another alliance is a joke, since everyone had them with Counter-Earth and Titan. And him going against people who were against him was not a crime. I know he's not winning, but the reasons those idiots think he should lose are irrational and just retarded. Especially because everything they say about Peter is actually what they are hardcore.

Now finished with that rant, can't wait until they all still cry about this and still don't see reason post game, but whatever. :bz

Like I said, I am just content with whoever wins this now.
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Also, losing Loki is going to suck.

In Peter's thing, he says he knows he's basically choosing the winner, and he doesn't like Loki as much? He doesn't see Loki's game, but that's fine. Because Rogue winning is hot too, like I've said. It's just Loki has made moves and pulled off a lot. It's just not flashy. I don't even see Rogue's game as flashy, they are both kinda the HBICs of their tribes and were. And both got past the merge socially, so yeah.

I really just know any of them will be devastated to get 4th place in this, it seriously hurts knowing that one of them will get that last jury spot, I know it does and will for them too.
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Oh my. Since I haven't read jury or confessionals yet, I'm not even sure if some of those are Hank, not Charles. I don't like clicking on links unless I know I have the board cleared though b/c that fucks up the last unread post shit.

It's just past 6 on the east coast, so Loki probably should be checking in within an hour. I just hope I'm not still too busy reading or ranting that I miss him!
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Yeah, when he gets here give him the Tesseract. I am going to sleep. Thanks :bz
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Also, you said that about Parker above about how he doesn't like Loki as much, so would prefer to essentially just crown Anna, and I'm not sure if you're saying that's a valid thing or not.

In fairness, that's something that happens a lot in this type of scenario, right? Sure, it sucks for Loki and I do feel bad for him knowing this, but this isn't unreasonable for Parker. If he knows that he won't win, and that he's going to probably take a lashing at FTC, having some say in the result at least would be a reward for that.

It's strange though. I don't know if it comes around that often because quite often the people that are in the control position at F4 often fool themselves into thinking they have a much greater chance than they do, like Harry here. If I look back the past year or so, there was Kuja (lol), and more recently Henry Jones, but even he used a variety of reasons, so I don't know. Surely there are other examples in between, but not much comes to mind. It's a completely reasonable and human response to prefer a winner if you know you won't win and that is your last chance at really having a voice. I won't blast him for it by any means.

Like I said, it sucks for Loki, but I don't think that this decision is irrational or unreasonable by any means. I don't think you're trying to say that it is either.
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No, I respect Peter's decision and get why he's doing that. I am just defending Loki's game to Peter's comments is all. Loki did make moves and shit and has worked just as hard as Anna and Peter and has been in life and death situations and hasn't just bumblefucked here. I know Peter doesn't see his game though. That's all I mean.

I am fine with Peter going with Rogue knowing she's winning and him being satisfied with the result that way. He talks about it and it makes sense and I am glad he's doing that that way. It hurts a little that he has no chance to win, but I know that he isn't blindsided by that, so that's good too.
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Yeah, I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing on Loki's behalf that he hasn't made his game known to Parker. I guess if Parker thought he had a shot to win, it would probably be a detriment because he would be more worried about him.

I don't know. After all that time that Loki spent bitching about Charles and Hank, Parker's association with them (even though he wanted to distance himself) is probably part of the reason why there were likely barriers up between the two of them. So yeah, I'll blame Charles for costing Hank a shot here, and now for costing Loki a shot too. :lol:
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I thought I included in that previous post a wisecrack about how Charles had made a comment about how Parker must be played actually by Russell Hantz, and then say how only Russell could have that much of a negative impact on others' games the way that Charles has.

Then I see this... alol:
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I wouldn't be opposed to it if this were a real deal. He's a total goat because he's an asshole and I'd love to face Xavier in the finals. He's the Russell Hantz here only he couldn't even own as much of the strategic game as Russell did.
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Anna winning :<3 :<3 :<3 :<3 :<3 :<3
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Now on to the jury. This is such a gem:

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That, and anyone associated with Peter is going to get shit on because everyone hates him.


A comment like that coming from a person that single-handedly did the most harm to Hank's game/standing is RICH.

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Peter will never admit a mistake

I can understand him being skewed towards one side, but he didn't? He came clean about that shit immediately when the first G/G meeting happened. Frankly, I thought that it was part of the reason that people got annoyed with Parker, because he did admit mistakes and would drone on about them. I haven't read the commentary or welcome threads for Charles and beyond, but where is he admitting his mistakes with mishandling people like Loki and others so much? Mistakes don't have to be a binary thing, where it's choosing between two people or something like how Rogers made a mistake by picking Raven back at Aqua or whatever. Mistakes that do a lot of damage are often the ones that grow over time.

Anyway, it's just funny because people accuse him of not owning the things he has done, but besides whining about shit, hasn't he done that? I'm not saying he hasn't done stuff without regretting how it happened, but what exactly do these people want from him? I swear they want him to be cocky as hell and laugh about how things have happened, and have no remorse or concern for any person that is run over by his actions. So... they want him to be cold, not give a shit, and just cackle at eliminations when he perfectly gets his way? I swear I could take some snippets from these posts and it sounds like they would want him to be Mr. Blonde or something. Then again, we've already discussed the thought that some people may be overly irritated by him because they think it IS him, so that would make sense, I guess.

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Alright, so Loki is squared away. This shit is so annoying, keeping track of all that. :cry

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So anyway, back to action. I laughed at Loki being upset that he has a Tesseract and all, because of his intentions. I understand what he would have wanted to do, and if he wanted to play that card, he could have just got the blocker instead. That's the part that confuses me. If the votes from the other 2 were on Anna and he/Anna voted together, he could disguise it. If he gets votes tonight, well, he'll be dead anyway.

I just don't see Anna tying it with him at all, nor should she want to, even though I don't think it would be that bad at all for her. Loki would get a bunch of votes, but she should have a bunch of them that he cannot touch, and he would need to win like almost all the "toss-up" votes.

It's just strange the perception these people have of each other, but that usually tends to happen in games. I think Parker is the one with the most accurate take on the jury at this point.

Harry thinks he'd be "dragging" Anna, and the jury would absolutely laugh at that, Loki is downselling himself, as is Anna. I guess that's better than seeing someone twiddling their thumbs saying "HAHAHA, EVERYONE WILL VOTE FOR ME!" but I think those two have played stronger games and deserve more credit than they're giving themselves.

Could Loki beat Anna? That's a huge question, but not one that will likely be answered. I think they're both smart enough to make sure that question won't be answered anyway.
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Thanks for handling that stuff with Loki :<3

I haven't read anything since I got here, I am just waking up and I have to take care of RL shit and then get started on this final challenge, ugh.

In the meantime, your post about Peter is just basically what I should have said instead of dissecting Beast's entire post, lul But it was worth picking a part, if anything it can just show how weird they are regarding Peter and I really do think people think he is Snoopy. I know Yope and notre do, for sure. I don't know if that's the entire basis of the bullshit people are trying to create about Peter, but you were right, what do they want from him? They just keep twisting shit and I am done talking about this. :bz

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I guess that's better than seeing someone twiddling their thumbs saying "HAHAHA, EVERYONE WILL VOTE FOR ME!"


That's something Natasha would say. :bz She's saying it in the jury haus now, which is not true in the least. Her counting 7 votes for her self before her boot? I can't...
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The best thing about this final 4 and just in general is that this was a cast of 50 and we still ended up with T18, bjork and FT in our final 4. So amazing, I can't even. :<3

I have given every chance for my winner's circle to get new blood, it just isn't meant. Haus of GaGa stays pure! :')
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I just want to comment on this, because while I understand her issues, I don't see eye to eye with her the whole way, even though I get it:
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Loki has a Tesseract now? A doubler -_- That is such a bullshit rule if no one gave him the pieces. So he benefited from people winning and just him being around? I am leaving tonight lol. Fuck this.

Sure, Loki didn't do jack shit to get that, and that's true. However, they could have planned boots out so that the 4th person in this F4 wouldn't have one, whether it be him, or Johann or whomever. Her allies benefited from gifting before, and it does suck b/c it couldn't go anywhere else.

Though they don't know all the time where pieces are gifted, they could have assumed who had, how many pieces, and a way to avoid it. My Lucretia could have used her accountant husband to keep her reminded where everything was! :cry

At the end of the day, it was always going to come down to everyone having two votes or one person being 1 piece shy of being able to. That went out the window when Johann was booted though.
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