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| Topic Started: Jul 15 2013, 12:20 AM (47 Views) | |
| Romeo | Jul 15 2013, 12:20 AM Post #1 |
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Johnny. Damn. What a horrible way to go out. To you, my apologies for how it all went down. I couldn't outright say it while you were in the game, but it was Lucy's idea to even turn against you so early. Before she gave me that opening, I was riding with you. It sucks we had to win the challenge and then have it taken away and then be blindsided and then lose on priors because of Westley - yeah that sucks. You were a good player though. There is no doubt about that. I'm still not positive it was the best move to go after you tonight, but I do know that a big time threat is off the board. You told everyone what they wanted to hear, which, not bad strategy, but it just didn't work out for you in the end. You may have been loyal, but in a game like this, sometimes the word "loyalty" doesn't mean anything. Farewell Johnny-san. I always miss players who truly care, and you will be missed. ![]() Moving forward... What the Hell Lucy? You basically invite Trip and I to target Johnny, agree with us enthusiastically, reaffirm us of your intentions all day, and then the second we have to vote, you flake out? Huh? I genuinely do not know where her head is at or what her intentions were and are. Was she just leading Trip and I on, or did she genuinely just get scared last minute of cutting the chord with him? I do hope tonight doesn't sully the alliance we were trying to build, but I need to be conscious of that. On the surface, yeah, she doesn't really have much to work with other than Trip and I, but still, you can never take an ally for granted. My fair Juliet lives to see another day. Make no mistake, she is only in this game because of me and my telling her to vote Johnny right before the vote deadline. I did weigh that in my head for a few minutes while I was trying to see if Lucy would vote Johnny as planned. As it was becoming clear that she wasn't going to, I had to decide what was the best route forward: 1) Let Juliet go home 3-2-1 OR 2) Force the tie. I obviously chose the second option, and I'll tell you why. Letting Juliet go, from my limited perspective, gave Lucy all of the power in my relationship with her. It basically negated any standing I had. We had just talked of targeting Johnny, and now Lucy has Johnny and Lois and I am way more reliant on her than vice versa. I didn't want to move forward in that scenario, even if I was safe, which was a real possibility with the Jedi + Bonsai alliance plus the three-way alliance with Lucy and Trip. It could have turned out fine, but I felt like I would have been much more a passenger along for the ride in that scenario. Forcing the tie, rolling the dice, it has its risks. I'm a little further out there right now; a little more vulnerable to an X on my back. Our numbers are dwindling and the merge approaches. And I'm counting on Juliet's loyalty, as well as being able to bring Lucy back in the fold. Voting Juliet was the easy route. It could have been unanimous, but I took the risk, because long-term this was a better move. That doesn't mean it won't bite my ass in the short-term. Time for bed. But first, some thoughts from Leo to ponder before I check back in tomorrow.
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| BROBST | Jul 15 2013, 12:36 AM Post #2 |
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Tonight, the New Jedi tribe became legen (wait for it) dary. I'm still stunned that I had to break a deadlock. I really wasn't sure if that was ever going to happen in any game. Came close at the merge in our first season: Belize, and then at the F4 in Siberia. But tonight was one for the books! |
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| Romeo | Jul 15 2013, 12:39 AM Post #3 |
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I knew you wouldn't go to random chance and picking rocks. I knew that. Just funny that Westley's one single vote was all the difference. More to come tomorrow. |
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| Romeo | Jul 15 2013, 02:08 PM Post #4 |
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Only time will tell if last night's move was a smart one or a short-sighted one. Hell, I can't even make up my mind on it. Ever the contrarian. The best possible outcome is that it pushed Lucy closer to Trip and myself, as well as solidified my bond with Juliet, and completely isolated Lois -- Even then though, we have someone that could make the merge who is completely isolated. Never a plus. But in this scenario, that negative is offset by the positive of getting, what I thought was, a big threat out in Johnny. The worst possible outcome is last night pushed Lucy further away from Trip and myself and put me out there in a way I wasn't before with regards to being seen as a threat. It weaponizes Lois, who has nothing to lose, and could try and form an all-girls alliance over here since, now, Trip and I's bond is front and center. It was a risky move, and a move I wouldn't made a few years ago when I just started playing your games. I've always, and still for the most part do, hold that keeping a vote as unanimous as possible is the best way forward. We could have unanimously voted Juliet out and moved forward with Lucy and Johnny happy and feeling a certain level of control. That's sensible strategy more often than not because it doesn't make any waves, and usually, this early, waves are a bad thing. But unlike other times, I just didn't feel comfortable enough in my place in the heirarchy to stand pat. I very well might have been at the top of the power rankings, but the only important thing is if I felt that way. I thought losing Juliet was a detriment to my game, but I would have gone along with it had Lucy not agreed to go after Johnny. That was the initial reason for the blindside - to solidify the three-way alliance of myself, Trip and Lucy. When she pulled the plug on wanting to do it, last minute, I had to very quickly decide what was the best way forward. To me, at that moment, I couldn't pass up the chance to boot the biggest threat - Johnny. Now trust me, I'm aware of how dangerous Juliet is, but I also saw this as an opportunity to push myself closer to Juliet than I ever could have hoped for with Johnny. She is not indebted to me, but I have shown loyalty and I did save her, and those are openings to solidifying a true relationship in this game. With Johnny, it was just words, and it could have been too late for me if I just chose to wait to see if those words translated to actions. I felt it was a move that got rid of a big threat and made me a bigger ally. It might not work out that way, but that's how I saw it in the moment. As for the tie, once Trip basically affirmed he was voting Johnny again, I saw no use not to. I knew you wouldn't resort to Purple Rock, or some game of chance. You put too much work in these things to let a player leave like that, so I knew it would either be priors (knowing Wes gave Johnny one and Juliet didn't have any) or some sort of fire-making-esque challenge. If Juliet lost, I still figured I'd have a good chance to really clear the air with Johnny and work with him, probably even in a better fashion, ironically, than if I hadn't voted for him. Moving forward, my hope is, again, that Lucy will be re-commited to myself and Trip and that Juliet and I will further our relationship. I need to get Lois out of here, but I also don't want to lose the next challenge. We NEED to win at least one, not just to knock a number out over there, but to also get some idea of what the dynamics are over there and to give them a chance to begin some in-fighting that can be exploited at the merge. The merge looms. I know it's a round or two away. I have no idea what is going to happen when it hits. Hell, I don't even know who I really trust long-term, but I'm banking on some bigger egos clashing and being able to work some social magic behind the scenes. This will be the stage of the game, should I make it, where my absence at the beginning will either work for or against me. Time to focus on that... But the present is important, and I need to make sure my ducks are in a row. |
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| Romeo | Jul 16 2013, 04:25 PM Post #5 |
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Whenever there is a lull in the game, I feel complacent. My mind races, and I convince myself that the hit is on. I just never expect things to come easily or go my way seamlessly. And that's how today kind of feels. Lucy is absent and has told everyone, save Lois, that she has pre-voted Lois. Because she hasn't really been around, you figure percentages are in your favor that she is still sticking with an existing alliance - Trip and myself. Juliet should be firmly in my corner. I lied to her a bit with how the Johnny boot went down, and maybe she compared notes with Trip and I lost a little leverage with her, but still, the fact is, I alerted her how to vote, she voted that way, and she's still here. All of my actions have pretty much supported my loyalty to her. Trip. Trip has more power than me on this tribe and that's fine. I'm kind of hoping he'll always be seen as the more threatening of our tandem. Not sure that's true, but whatever. He's probably closer to Lucy and Lois than I am, but most importantly, he is closer to me than any of them. If I'm Trip, why would you ever ditch me to the curb? I've been with you since Day 1, open and honest, and stuck with you during the tie vote. So, yes, the surface suggests things are in my favor and Lois will go home tonight should we lose again. But I overestimate these players. What if Juliet, Lois and Lucy all just laid it out on the table and decided to form a new alliance? What if Trip wants to trade me out for Juliet? What if Lucy is truly burned by how I handled the Johnny boot? What if, what if, what if... You can go mad running through every possible scenario for every possible player. I used to try and do that. I still do my best to try and understand what each player would think their best possible option is, but I play with a much more apprehensive optimism nowadays. I trust in my own gameplay to the point where I know I'm good, but I'm always aware that someone could be better. That's Survivor. |
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| BROBST | Jul 16 2013, 05:08 PM Post #6 |
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I must say I am enjoying the helloutta your tribe
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| Romeo | Jul 16 2013, 05:12 PM Post #7 |
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Oh no - Brobst commented on my confessional!!! That means I'm in trouble... |
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| BROBST | Jul 16 2013, 05:17 PM Post #8 |
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It's been really hard to keep up with everyone's Confessionals, particularly with my day job lately. Also trying to squeeze in a trip to see some family that's back from living overseas. I'm staying afloat here.......barely, LOL P.S. But I always read, even if I don't reply
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| Trip | Aug 19 2013, 02:15 PM Post #9 |
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This was one of my favorite rounds of the game (probably third after the Lucy blindside and the F8 round). The thing is, I was the one that got Lucy to turn on Johnny in the first place. I think she realized later that it was a bad move for her (and it was), and so she flaked out and just didn't tell us until the last minute. All I know is once that tie was forced, I felt like we both HAD to keep it deadlocked. If Juliet left, Lucy, Johnny, and Lois would have outnumbered us 3-2. |
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