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Trip,Aug 9 2013
12:46:19 AM
Romeo,Aug 9 2013
12:44:00 AM
It's logical for you because you had your main ally with you there and had a F4 with Max and Laurie! It wasn't logical for Trip to sit back and be the mercy of your pairs.

I had the same thing as you with him Apollo - a F5 with Lucy, Rose and Atreyu. He didn't want that. He blew it up. I'm annoyed he did it because it led to my demise, but I respect a man playing for himself.

LOL... again, thank you. Romeo gets me!!

I wasn't standing for any pairs deciding my fate. I wanted to BE in a pair,

You had me you sandbagging son of a bitch and you threw me away like I was an Amanda Bynes poster!
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Romeo,Aug 9 2013
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Trip,Aug 9 2013
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Laurie,Aug 9 2013
12:42:07 AM
LOL

Yeah, we kept watching Trip vote out his closest allies - and thought WTF?!?

Who were my closest allies? Just because people claimed to be doesn't mean they were . Lucy was all over the map. Buttercup was never my ally. The only ally I really voted out was Romeo.

Sweet validation! My game is made!

:D

LOL... Romeo, sorry again. I now know you were the only person ever really wanting to go to the end with me.. though Wes later might have.

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Daniel,Aug 9 2013
12:46:38 AM
Romeo, I think we all understand why Trip did what he did.

I'm not sure it's necessary for you to spell it all out like we're five years old.

I'm offering my opinion - just as you do good sir. If you keep repeating something I disagree with, I am well within my right to offer a counterpoint. If you dislike my communication style, well, that's fine, it's not like I'm pandering for your vote :D
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In all honesty I knew I had a snowballs chance in hell of winning a F3 immunity challenge...my strategy was to get there with people that might pick me. So with that in mind Trip was not necessarily #3 in my book...I was #3 and banking on one of the others picking me for F2.

Sure...If I managed to pull off a miracle and win the final immunity I would have took Dan without a doubt but I wasn't holding my breath on that one.

I felt like if F3 was Me/Dan/Trip...Both would have taken me.

If F3 was Me/Dan/Laurie...Dan would have taken me and Laurie would have sent me packing.

If F4 was Me/Dan/Laurie/Max a showdown would have taken place where Dan and I would have forced a tie and went after Max.

Believe me I was thinking of how F5 would play out...but still felt going with that group of 5 was the best option for me and Dan.
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I gotta get to bed fellas. But thanks for making a girl feel welcome.

If you have more questions, I'll catch them in the morning.
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Would Dan have allowed me to get to final three without Laurie?
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That's a great question trip! He better say no - I haven't logged off yet, lol.
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Trip,Aug 9 2013
12:46:19 AM
Romeo,Aug 9 2013
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It's logical for you because you had your main ally with you there and had a F4 with Max and Laurie! It wasn't logical for Trip to sit back and be the mercy of your pairs.

I had the same thing as you with him Apollo - a F5 with Lucy, Rose and Atreyu. He didn't want that. He blew it up. I'm annoyed he did it because it led to my demise, but I respect a man playing for himself.

LOL... again, thank you. Romeo gets me!!

I wasn't standing for any pairs deciding my fate. I wanted to BE in a pair,

I tried man, i tried
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, Laurie, but I got a bad rap when I was called, over and over again, dishonest, un-loyal, etc... because I wasn't really getting anywhere near where I got with any of the so-called alliances I had...
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Laurie,Aug 9 2013
12:47:06 AM
For you Romeo. I never could quite figure out where you stood with Wes. And therefore with me.

You and I danced around in every conversation we had, trying to get the other to say something. To commit to something... Anything.

It was pretty funny.

I mean we did do that dance, but I do remember sending you a lengthy message at F9 trying to really cement what we'd been dancing around.

At F12 I was initially very receptive to working with you because my name was immediately on the block and I had to move fast, or so I felt. The target shifted all over the place that round, but after Buttercup and Marion left, I didn't necessarily feel like I "needed" you. To my own detriment, and my own fault, I got complacent that round, thinking things were going as planned, and wanted to take my foot off the gas a bit. Everyone - to a player - said they were voting you or Max. I just agreed.

Boom. Lucy gone.

I had to scramble and I thought there was real incentive in working with you and Wes at that point. I sent you a really detailed message and tried my damnedest, in vain. I was hoping that offering up Trip as a back-up would have let you know my seriousness, but alas, he outplayed me in getting to you.
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Westley,Aug 9 2013
12:53:27 AM
I tried man, i tried

I did too, Wes... they figured out we were working together.
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Daniel,Aug 9 2013
12:43:47 AM
Max, can you explain this? It's what completely screwed up my game.

I didn't specifically tell hm to do that, but I did (unwittingly) imply it. I told him that the numbers were close and that I thought that they were on our side. Basically, I was pissed at his betrayal and was trying to rub his nose in it, a little. (In reality, I was a lot MORE pissed at my own gullibility, but that's beside the point)

As soon as I realized that he was playing all four of us, I figured he wasn't going to abide by any deal. And, frankly, I was in full-disclosure mode that the time. I was coming clean with him and Wes at the same time, letting them know that I knew what they were up to and that there would be a price to be paid for it. It was a mistake - obviously, and a fatal one at that - and I take full responsibility.

But I never even suggested it was him at F8. That was his own extrapolation. It was supposed to be Wes because that's what we were all saying.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why it was such a bad thing to tell him that, when all four of us knew he was playing us. I see the results, but I'm not 100% clear on why it mattered so much. He was screwing us. What did it matter what he thought of us turning the tables on him?
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Romeo,Aug 9 2013
12:44:00 AM
It's logical for you because you had your main ally with you there and had a F4 with Max and Laurie! It wasn't logical for Trip to sit back and be the mercy of your pairs.

I had the same thing as you with him Apollo - a F5 with Lucy, Rose and Atreyu. He didn't want that. He blew it up. I'm annoyed he did it because it led to my demise, but I respect a man playing for himself.

Yeah but Trip also had a F3 with Max and Laurie for all he knew trumped my F4. So I fail to see how Trip was any worse off than the rest of us.
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Apollo,Aug 9 2013
12:55:19 AM
Romeo,Aug 9 2013
12:44:00 AM
It's logical for you because you had your main ally with you there and had a F4 with Max and Laurie! It wasn't logical for Trip to sit back and be the mercy of your pairs.

I had the same thing as you with him Apollo - a F5 with Lucy, Rose and Atreyu. He didn't want that. He blew it up. I'm annoyed he did it because it led to my demise, but I respect a man playing for himself.

Yeah but Trip also had a F3 with Max and Laurie for all he knew trumped my F4. So I fail to see how Trip was any worse off than the rest of us.

You had Dan. Laurie had Max. Laurie also had Dan and vice versa.

He was blatantly, from my perspective, sitting on the outside. He wasn't any of y'all's #1.
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I don't think you got a bad rap, trip. I will tell you that rose and Atreyu couldn't stand you.... As evidenced by the fit rose threw in the F4 TC.

I think people just were unsure of where your loyalties were. And that's not necessarily a bad thing,
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