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Did Voyager reject its own premise
Topic Started: Feb 4 2006, 04:18 PM (654 Views)
TiberiusK
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Premise: Marquis and Starfleet must learn to work together,

But by the 4th episode they were all basically a happy family!

Premise: Voy is stranded, and has to compete for resources and supplies

But it never really had to compete for supplies, engage in much trade, etc. Energy seemed to be limitless and the crew could repair anything without a starbase.
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patfromstrasbourg
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I don't think they rejected the premise at all but perhaps the producers don't wanted to put this too much on the first line of the show..

Voyager crew fight all the way for supllies, energy or food.. But they learned to be cleaver. They started by making savings and rationate what could be !

Remember Janeway rushing in a Nebula to get coffee back because the energy was too low to make all the replicators working ! :roflmao:

Then they found Neelix & Kes on the way.. Neelix became the Chef on board and invited anyone who can survive to taste his cuisine made with the vegetables and other things produced by the hydroponic bay created by Kes.

For technical troubles and new parts ? Just ask lt BLT "Macgyver" Torres ! :lol: The best engeenier in the DQ to fix you a warp core with almost nothing !! :thumbsup: - She created as well with Paris the Delta Flyer ..

Then arrived 7 of Nine - godess of the show - formal borg who added her superiority to this inefficent crew and built them the astrometric lab, new shileds and other things..

So I'll say that leaded by her kamikaze but great & coffee addict Captain, Voyager's crew made it well to get what they needed to survive..

by chance they did not react like the Equinox crew by killing innocent lifeforms to get quicker home !! :wacko: :blink: :cry:
- Cpt. Kathryn Janeway "Once a long time ago I called this replicator a glorified toaster, it never forgave me" -

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Lynx
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Voyager didn't totally reject it's premise but it was watered-down too much and too soon.

I agree that the Starfleet-Maquis crew became "a happy family" too soon. There should have been a slower integration.

I also dislike the fact that the most stubborn Maquis were portrayed as psychos and traitors. I mean, there must have been some among the Starfleet crew that wasn't perfect either.

The main problem with Voyager was that the show should have continued as it was in season 1-3 with more encounters with alien species, more food problems, engine problems, equipment problems and such. Instead it became a mini-TNG with enocunters with The Borg, The Borg and The Borg, a ship which was working like a clockwork with "super-goddess" Seven whose Borg technology could fix all problems, plus an unlimited supply of shuttles and torpedoes.

Voyager was a great show with great characters and a great premise which unfortunately wasn't handled the way it should have been.
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whoweepsforkirk
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Lynx
Feb 5 2006, 08:57 AM
Voyager didn't totally reject it's premise but it was watered-down too much and too soon.

I agree that the Starfleet-Maquis crew became "a happy family" too soon. There should have been a slower integration.

I also dislike the fact that the most stubborn Maquis were portrayed as psychos and traitors. I mean, there must have been some among the Starfleet crew that wasn't perfect either.

The main problem with Voyager was that the show should have continued as it was in season 1-3 with more encounters with alien species, more food problems, engine problems, equipment problems and such. Instead it became a mini-TNG with enocunters with The Borg, The Borg and The Borg, a ship which was working like a clockwork with "super-goddess" Seven whose Borg technology could fix all problems, plus an unlimited supply of shuttles and torpedoes.

Voyager was a great show with great characters and a great premise which unfortunately wasn't handled the way it should have been.

i concur 100%.
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La_Bouche
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it was still fun to watch,

i dont care if they strayed a bit from the original goal

they still produced a good show that was enjoyable tv
 
roltel
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Thet probably did eventually _ they did seem to be managing all-too happy and comfortably on their own by the time the series had hit it's stride. It's probably not a henious inconsistency, but then again it was a pity they didn't make more and longer use of the type of plot developments ongoiong conflicts and shortages on board could have given
 
fleshandblood
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I agree, they did go into being buddies very quickly. but then again they do need to be when working so closely so far from home, so friendships would form quickly.

Also there were occurrences throughout all seasons where the crews didn’t work together well e.g. "learning curve" and "good Shepard"

Nothing they did was bad though, and they do need to get on with other plots so i understand why the original task was solved quickly.

Also from what i can make out those 4 episodes were set out over a largish amount of time anyhow so maybe we didn’t need to see much more than that?
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TiberiusK
Feb 4 2006, 02:18 PM
Premise: Marquis and Starfleet must learn to work together,

But by the 4th episode they were all basically a happy family!

Considering that the final episode of Seqason 1 dealt with tensions between Maquis and Starfleet crewmembers, as well as episodes in Season2 dealing with the same thing, your argument is irrelevant.

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Premise:  Voy is stranded, and has to compete for resources and supplies

But it never really had to compete for supplies, engage in much trade, etc.  Energy seemed to be limitless and the crew could repair anything without a starbase.


Again, irrelevant, considering that there were numerous episodes through-out the various seasons dealing with lack of energy and supplies, and having to trade to get new supplies and resources.
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