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The WWE Thread; Talk WWE Here!!
Topic Started: Feb 21 2006, 10:54 AM (44,729 Views)
GeordiLaTuvok
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Kobra Kai
Apr 7 2009, 09:33 AM
you forgot to mention that Cena was able to pick up Show AND Edge up on his shoulders at the same time.

I thought it was insane a couple years back when Cena FUd the Big Show. Now he gets both guys up at the same time!!! Dude
That's very true, that was awesome. John Cena is a strong, strong dude.
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it's rare that I ever see GLT give props to Cena.
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I try to be fair to him...I hate the character, I don't think he's very good inside the ring, and I wish he'd just leave the poor Rock alone. However, I also think he works as hard as anyone else in the company and gives his everything into his matches. He's like...the opposite of Orton in that regard. Cena doesn't have much to give in the ring, but he absolutely gives it all, whereas Orton has a ton to offer, and often chooses not to because he thinks it gets him heel heat to be a boring worker (which, by the way, he has actually admitted to in an interview, so that's not even just me speculating about him).

In fairness, I also think outside the ring, John Cena comes across as a legitimately good person, and the amount of work he does for charities and especially the Make-a-Wish Foundation makes him a class act in my opinion. So yeah...I don't much care to see him on my TV, but I have a lot of respect for him.
Edited by GeordiLaTuvok, Apr 7 2009, 03:16 PM.
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Bobby Lashley debuted for TNA at Lockdown last night. Man, I thought I was free of that waste of time. :sarcastic:
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Before I post this, I am going to forewarn that this is a post filled entirely with me being grumpy. I totally understand if anyone is uninterested in that, and thus wants to just ignore this post. Enjoy your day, and I hope to talk to you guys about something more positive soon, because I for one have been enjoying the hell out of SmackDown lately. You have now been warned, any who continue onwards do so at your own risk.

Vince McMahon has to have some sixth sense about finding ways to take situations where he is entirely, 100% absolutely in the right, and reacting to them in a way so childish and immature that not only does he come across like a douchebag, but he then actually winds up doing something worse than what had initially happened to him, thus making him completely in the wrong.

You guys probably know by now that I am referring to the situation in Denver with the Pepsi Center. As I said, when the whole thing started, Vince was totally wronged, through no fault of his own, and had absolutely every right to be upset and outraged. This was a clear cut situation, where there was a wrong party - Stan Kroenke and the Denver Nuggets, and a right party - Vince McMahon and WWE. Then, Vince decided that media attention was more important than his fans.

For those who don't know the full situation, WWE was doing a short tour in Colorado, not just Raw. The schedule involved a Sunday night house show somewhere in that general area (I don't know where exactly), the Raw in Denver, and then the following night a SmackDown taping in Colorado Springs. Obviously, what happened to the Raw show was out of Vince's hands. Again, no fault there. In his desire to get as much media attention out of the situation as possible, he decided to take a shot at the Denver Nuggets organization by relocating the show to their rival team's arena in Los Angeles. However, in doing so, that meant that WWE had to cancel both the Sunday house show as well as the Colorado Springs SmackDown taping, because there was no way they would be able to drive their trucks back and forth between L.A. and there for those shows.

That would be fine if that was what they were forced to do, and there wasn't a reasonable alternative. There was. The arena in Colorado Springs that they were going to use for Tuesday's SmackDown taping was completely available for WWE to use on Monday night. There was literally nothing stopping them from just moving Raw a few miles down the road. Not only would this have prevented Vince from having to cancel the two shows, but it also would have theoretically allowed a large portion of those fans who got screwed out of their Raw in Denver to still get to attend the show. But of course, Vince only really cares about the fans when it's convenient for him, and in this situation, it was more fun for him to deliberately screw over more fans than Stan Kroenke did in order to be a jackoff on TV about how outraged he was that the "WWE Universe" had been screwed.

So what it boils down to for me is this: Stan Kroenke accidentally screwed over WWE fans out of a mixture of incompetence and necessity. Vince McMahon responded by deliberately screwing over his very own fans because he wanted to throw a temper tantrum. Therefore, is there now any way in which Stan Kroenke is now more of the bad guy in this situation than Vince McMahon?

Okay, I've got that off my chest, I'll settle down now.
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GLT, I just wanted to say I love your posts, and I totally agree with the one above.
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i don't. vince did the right thing. the Nuggets could have changed locations to Colorado Springs just as easily as WWE could have. Then, all contracts would stay. A contract is a contract, and more importantly your word is your word. I love how Vince made a public spectacle of this to show most of the country what a douchebag Kroenke is. If he hadn't, the whole situation would have been lost on page three of the local Denver sports page.
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May 26 2009, 10:51 AM
i don't. vince did the right thing. the Nuggets could have changed locations to Colorado Springs just as easily as WWE could have. Then, all contracts would stay. A contract is a contract, and more importantly your word is your word. I love how Vince made a public spectacle of this to show most of the country what a douchebag Kroenke is. If he hadn't, the whole situation would have been lost on page three of the local Denver sports page.
I'm not saying Kroenke wasn't in the wrong, he absolutely was. You are correct, Kai, Kroenke could have moved the Nuggets to Colorado Springs. In no way am I arguing that the way Kroenke handled this situation was anything but wretched. The whole thing comes from WWE getting completely and utterly screwed over by no fault of their own. The point I am making is that Vince was forced into an unfortunate situation, and instead of deciding "Well, let's at least try to take care of as many of our fans that got screwed by this as we can" he said "Hey! I can get a lot of media attention from this if we up and move to L.A!"

I'm not saying that originally Kronke was wrong, and Vince was right, and then after all was said and done it was the other way around. What I'm saying is that when all was said and done, both Kroenke and Vince were wrong, and the Denver and Colorado Springs fans were the ones who had to pay for it.
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WWE released Mr. Kennedy today. Two major factors lead to this:

First and foremost, the man has been an on-air character for the company since 2005 (maybe even 2004?), and due to an endless string of injuries and a suspension, actually spent more time off-camera than he has on. The fact that he was already being viewed as a china doll by the time he came back this time, and then in his first match back, suffered a wrist injury, didn't do him any favors.

The final nail in the coffin, though, was in the ten-man tag on Monday, when Kennedy accidentally dropped Randy Orton right on his head in a botched back body drop spot. Right now, Orton is not a good person to make an enemy out of, and that's exactly what happened right then. On a side note, Kennedy's wrist injury was suffered as a result of a very stiff RKO from Orton that was his receipt for the botched spot.

Honestly, I don't blame WWE. I was a big fan of Kennedy when he first debuted, but as the years went by and he suffered injury after injury after suspension after injury after injury, it became clear that there simply wasn't much value in the guy. How can you push someone after they've shown you that they have, at the outside, a five month lifespan before they're going to be gone again? Maybe TNA will pick him up now, but that would sort of surprise me after all the times Kennedy has publicly badmouthed them in interviews.
Once upon a time, a man lived. This man was a man who really lived. He was the best there was at what he did, living. Living is what he did, and he did it well. In fact, he did it too well. He lived so well that he made other people stop living. That is why he had to be stopped. To stop him, they sent Rimo.

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Mar 31 2009, 11:21 AM
Tazz's contract with WWE expired and he has chosen not to stay on with the company. The reason I've heard is simply a case where he feels burnt out and feels like he's ready to take some time off. There's no bad blood on either side, so it's entirely feasible that he could make his return to the company some day, but at least for the time being, Tazz is done with WWE.

I've gotta say, I'm gonna miss the hell out of him. He is without a doubt, with only one possible exception in the form of Bobby Heenan, the greatest color commentator of all time. I remember spending years watching him carry Michael Cole (though I'll admit that I didn't realize at the time how much he was carrying Cole...once upon a time, I just thought Cole actually was really good), and then get relegated to the #3 show (logical as it may have been at the time), all the while thinking "Man...wouldn't Tazz and JR as an announce team be something special?" Well, for the last several months, we got to listen to that team on SmackDown, and it was every bit as awesome as I'd hoped for. So, all the best to Tazz, and I hope to see him back someday!

...Oh, and before anyone tunes in to SmackDown this week, sees Tazz, and says "WTF? GLT lied!" I want to point out that this coming SmackDown will be his final show with WWE. Though I am hoping that he'll at least make some sort of deal with WWE and call WrestleMania as well, as that would be a more fitting last show.
I know nothing about wrestling and I'm sure all your points are valid.

I just wanted to come in here and point out to you that we do have other threads here at Nexus you are allowed to post in :raspberry:
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