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| QDonQ | Mar 9 2010, 12:49 PM Post #1241 |
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I love anything related to Randy Orton so as long as they are in a feud I will like Ted & Cody. I didn't see anything different in TNA than RAW. I've been watching wrestling for 40 years so I guess there are very little new. I hate when wrestlers bleed. I find it disgusting and the old school wrestlers seem to love it. Making it feel real... But I hate it. During the AJ styles Flair fight I said who is AJ going to fight because neither Abyss or Hogan can wrestle. I don't like Abyss Didn't like Hogan's daughter involved. This is the first time in his life that I actually thought Hulk Hogan was out of shape I liked Sting. I think the last time I remember him as a bad guy was with the nWo. But I'm not sure if that counts. RVD is as fun as they get. Did not like the army and Kurt Angle. Reminded me of a bad attempt to be like Cena. I found it interesting that they showed "Black Machismo" in the credits but he wasn't on the show. Which I felt was misleading people to think that the Macho Man was on the show. Speaking of ... interview with Hogan. Why hasn't Hulk talked to Black Machismo... I've been waiting for that to happen... Happy to see Jeff Hardy. They need a bigger sound stage... It is bigger than before but it seems as if there are 100 people watching them wrestling as opposed to the 50 they used to have. I'm sure they could give away thousands of free tickets. If I lived near there I would go every week if I could. All in all an alright show. They all seemed a little nervous. I think it will get better... |
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| BX | Mar 10 2010, 01:15 AM Post #1242 |
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not sure what you mean about Rhodes and Didiase. i think they make great heels and the recent push against Orton shows that the WWE wants them in the next level. as far as TNA being on monday the official ratings are in and just as predicted TNA got slaughtered... RAW 3.4 iMPACT .98 RVD and Jeff Hardy are not going to save TNA from it's eventual fate. WWE didn't even have one of it's best shows ever and TNA still could not beat them... what's gonna happen next week when RAW IS AUSTIN? or the night after Wrestlemania? or the night of the WWE Draft wich will be 3 hours? I mean even something as simple as the production value is lacking in TNA. Bringing it on on monday nights from a small rinky dink sound stage with 100 free tickets given out to theme park patrons is so bush league. And in contrast you have RAW being brought live from a major sports arena with 18,000 fans PAYING to get in. |
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| QDonQ | Mar 10 2010, 03:14 PM Post #1243 |
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To be fair no one expects TNA to beat RAW. Their only true hope is to get some of the RAW fans to watch TNA during the boring segments. Competition is good for both shows... |
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| QDonQ | Mar 13 2010, 05:59 PM Post #1244 |
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I just watched this National Geo special on Steroids.... They mention Chris Beniot, Eddie Geurrero, Davy Boy Smith.... It's obviously a huge part of wrestling and I found it very interesting The Science of Steroids link Edited by QDonQ, Mar 13 2010, 06:00 PM.
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| BX | Mar 14 2010, 02:11 AM Post #1245 |
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competition only works if the competition in question is equal to that of the other in product and TNA is no where near the league of WWE. WCW trued to compete, but they did what TNA is trying to do and that is surpase WWE wich they will never be able to do. Why can TNA not just be content with being the number 2 company and leave it at that? If they try and take down the WWE they will only fail and eventually get bought out by WWE in the end anyway. |
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| GeordiLaTuvok | Mar 14 2010, 05:50 PM Post #1246 |
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That's a defeatist attitude, and quite frankly, the reason WWE hasn't been consistently good for nine years now is the fact that they have no competition forcing them to step up and think outside their WWE box. Will TNA fail? Possibly, yes. However, I think the people who have already written them off are being ridiculously unfair given this company's history. We're talking about an organization that started out by only being shown on weekly $10 PPVs. That's a company with no history or public knowledge trying to get by on weekly PPV's. That's a recipe for disaster if ever I've heard one, and pretty much everybody agreed that if they lasted six months, it would be a miracle. It's almost eight years later, and they still exist. The assumption was that they would never get a TV deal, because nobody would air wrestling that wasn't WWE anymore. They got on FSN. Okay, people said, well they'll never get a -real- TV deal. They found their way to Spike. They did so well on Spike, they were bumped from a one hour show to a two hour show. So honestly, as cheesy as it all sounds, this company has legitimately defied expectations at every turn. Are they at WWE's level yet? No, of course not. They might very well never be. But the only way they can get there is if they try. |
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| QDonQ | Mar 15 2010, 10:13 AM Post #1247 |
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I agree... |
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| BX | Mar 17 2010, 02:27 AM Post #1248 |
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you can call it a defietest attitude if you want but the numbers don't lie... and the fans are just simply not tuneing into TNA. even the replay on thrusday from monday only did a .97 wich means they are not gaining any new fans on monday for the most part. and this week so far they have lost viewers... RAW = 3.7 (main event = 4.7 alone) TNA = .8 (main event = .73 alone) If TNA higher up's where smart they would not have given into Hogan and Bischoff's ego trip and stayed on Thrusday at least until they could establish a stable brand. Even the wrestler formerly known as Val Venis Sean Morley jumped ship to mexico before their first outing on Monday night because in his words "TNA does not have a direction yet". TNA is like a lamb being lead to the slaughter, and Hogan is the sheperd. WWE is not changing it's programming and is still bringing in consistant 3.+ ratings. If they did change to boost their ratings any higher it would not be competition it would be a massacre. I mean think about it for a second, if WWE changed it's programming on Monday nights to boost ratings and started pulling in 4.+ and TNA started dropping to like .3 or so Spike would pull the plug on TNA faster than CBS did with the XFL. And the XFL after the opening weekend spike was bringing in consistant 3.+ ratings and it STILL got canned and was considered a failure by a lot of people. |
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| GeordiLaTuvok | Mar 17 2010, 04:28 PM Post #1249 |
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The initial dip in numbers is only to be anticipated. The initial novelty of the move to Mondays wears off quickly and so you're left with people then simply making a choice between Raw or Impact, a battle that will have one very clear winner at this point. The move to Mondays is a long-term project. It's all a matter of surviving the initial loss of viewers. I expect Impact will probably go down again this week, especially up against the last Raw before 'Mania, and then again the week after that with the first post-'Mania Raw. At this point, TNA needs to figure out where it levels out, and then they can start thinking about building back up. Sometimes you have to take one step backwards to take two steps forward, and that's the thinking here. Now, with all this said, I do agree that the crap TNA's putting on right now isn't going to cut it. It's all just Hogan ego-stroking, and that really isn't all that interesting to watch. I do find it interesting, though, that you say Jeff Hardy and RVD won't save TNA from its eventual fate, because I actually have a very different perspective on that. The way I see it, the current top guys falls into one of two categories: The Hogans, Angles, Stings, and Nashes, and the AJs, Joes, and Abysses (Abyssi?). I don't think either category is going to work for drawing a national audience away from Raw (and you know how much I love Joe and AJ, but still). The problem with the old guys is that we've all seen them on top for what seems like forever, so seeing them on top in TNA is just more of the same. The problem with the TNA homegrown guys is that the national audience has no idea who they are, so the average fan is not going to be drawn away from the stars on Raw that they know to watch them. Jeff Hardy and Rob Van Dam, however, form a different category. The two of them are names that a casual fan will know, recognize, and (most importantly of all) miss seeing on TV, but at the same time, we haven't watched them just sit on top of the cards for what feels like centuries, so they are still fresh from a main event perspective. On top of that, they have two of the most intensely dedicated followings of any wrestlers of the last 15 years. I honestly think if TNA decided to build around Jeff Hardy and Rob Van Dam as the top two faces of the company (separately, mind you, not as a unit), you would see a turnaround for TNA surprisingly quickly. The problem is that Hogan's ego will not allow it. We already saw it this week. Jeff and RVD are already just the Hulkster's little buddies, nothing special, nobody pay them any mind. This will be what shoots TNA in the foot, if TNA does get shot in the foot. They don't understand the fact that they have the two biggest signings they've ever managed (including Hulk Hogan and Kurt Angle), and they aren't going to do a thing about that fact. Also, for the sake of argument, read the above paragraph as though Jeff's trial has already come and gone and he wasn't convicted. Obviously, that all goes out the window if he winds up with a 14 year prison sentence. |
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| BX | Mar 17 2010, 08:55 PM Post #1250 |
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i was thinking the same thing you are, but with Jeff's trial coming up it could drag down TNA. it may very well draw some very negative attention to TNA esspecially if since thet've signed him they will be looked on as looking the other way to his addictions and trial. and if he is convicted then they not only have shot themselves in the foot twice, once with him being Hogan's buddy and two with looking the other way at someone that has been charged in a federal case. the WWE and Vince were able to side step most of that controversy back in the day mostly because at that time wrestling was not as mainstream and the world was not as connected as it is today. |
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