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The WWE Thread; Talk WWE Here!!
Topic Started: Feb 21 2006, 10:54 AM (44,815 Views)
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I can not express how much I hate the Boogeyman!



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I always thought Boogeyman looked really cool. His name was stupid and so was the worm thing....but he looked and behaved really cool.
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The Boogeyman character was very good IMO.

Kinda like a new version of the "Papa Shango" character of 1992 but taken to a higher level of depravity.

Unfortunately, Marty Wright was a piss poor worker and he couldn't carry the character because he was useless in the ring. The backstage and in-ring skits were done very well.

But what WWE need to understand (and they never will) is that if you give a promising character/gimmick to a piss poor worker who cannot handle a match in the ring, then it will fail and be a total waste of time, because however talented they may be doing skits, once they are in a match, all their limitations will be exposed.

Had the Boogeyman character been given to a better wrestler with the same level of mic skills and who presumably would be willing to ingest real worms, it would have been relatively successful.
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Boogeyman had a couple of problems, in my opinion.

First, I completely agree with HRH. The Boogeyman in and of itself was an entertaining character that was ruined by giving it to a man who was utterly horrible. I think he could have been really over had he been played by a better worker. And in fact, he clearly was pretty over with the crowd even despite his poor in-ring work until...

Point #2: WWE creative right now is so incapable of getting a big reaction for things, that on those occasions when they do come up with something that gets one, they will shove it down our throats ad nauseum, even when it's something that was only really funny once. In this case, it was the worms. One time, Boogeyman popped up with the worms (I don't remember what the first situation was that they showed up), ate a few of them, it got a huge reaction, and it was very funny. So, naturally...that became his entire character. Suddenly, the worms stopped being as amusing, and the crowd started reacting less to them.
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I was disgusted by the worms...Plus I was embarrassed by him from the moment I saw him...Hate Him!



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Sep 21 2006, 11:14 AM
Maybe they only have enough room for one of the crappest wrestlers on the planet in the Smackdown locker room (The Great Khali).

:lol:

speaking of wich has he even been around since the last man standing match? or did he get fired as well?
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Sep 23 2006, 02:55 AM
:lol:

speaking of wich has he even been around since the last man standing match? or did he get fired as well?

I think he still has a contract, but I haven't seen him. Maybe he's the next name on Vince's spring-cleaning list. There tends to be a clearout from time-to-time.
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Vince's problem is that he still in many ways has a "carny" mentality.

He assumes that fans love "freaks". IE: guys who are really tall or really fat.

So that's why he constantly hires idiots like The Great Khali, even though the guy can't speak coherant English and has no wrestling ability whatsoever.

Vince learned none of the lessons he should have learned from in Nineties.

He believed that placing this big dumb useless Khali in a program with the Undertaker would draw PPV buys. He's tried it before with The Undertaker vs The Fake Undertaker/King Kong Bundy/Mabel/Giant Gonzalez/Mark Henry etc...

None of them amounted to much. All piss poor feuds.

Vince had his biggest successes with the Undertaker when he feuded with Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and especially Mick Foley. All smaller guys than the Undertaker who were good on the mic and skilled workers. They brought the best out of the Undertaker and the feuds worked.

"The Great Khali" should never have been used as a full-time worker. Vince should have booked Khali as the "enforcer/bodyguard" for Muhammed Hassan and Davari. That way, Khali could remain a "freak attraction" but wouldn't have to wrestle (which he is incapable of doing anyway).

Hassan BTW was a great character when he did his "I am an Arab-American and wish to be treated like anyone else" but unfortunately, handling a character with subtley and taste is beyond the abilities of WWE's creative head Stephanie McMahon and of course Vince McMahon.

They quickly turned Hassan into first an Iron Sheik-ripoff, then most tastelessly into a terrorist jihadist. Piss poor writing.
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Sep 23 2006, 06:59 PM
Vince's problem is that he still in many ways has a "carny" mentality.

He assumes that fans love "freaks". IE: guys who are really tall or really fat.

So that's why he constantly hires idiots like The Great Khali, even though the guy can't speak coherant English and has no wrestling ability whatsoever.

Vince learned none of the lessons he should have learned from in Nineties.

He believed that placing this big dumb useless Khali in a program with the Undertaker would draw PPV buys. He's tried it before with The Undertaker vs The Fake Undertaker/King Kong Bundy/Mabel/Giant Gonzalez/Mark Henry etc...

None of them amounted to much. All piss poor feuds.

Vince had his biggest successes with the Undertaker when he feuded with Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and especially Mick Foley. All smaller guys than the Undertaker who were good on the mic and skilled workers. They brought the best out of the Undertaker and the feuds worked.

"The Great Khali" should never have been used as a full-time worker. Vince should have booked Khali as the "enforcer/bodyguard" for Muhammed Hassan and Davari. That way, Khali could remain a "freak attraction" but wouldn't have to wrestle (which he is incapable of doing anyway).

Hassan BTW was a great character when he did his "I am an Arab-American and wish to be treated like anyone else" but unfortunately, handling a character with subtley and taste is beyond the abilities of WWE's creative head Stephanie McMahon and of course Vince McMahon.

They quickly turned Hassan into first an Iron Sheik-ripoff, then most tastelessly into a terrorist jihadist. Piss poor writing.

Well said your Highness. Peace and long life.
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Okay, this post is more about TNA, but since this is the main wrestling thread on Nexus, I'm gonna post it here.

So as I'm sure you all know by the time you read this, Kurt Angle has signed with TNA. Without question, this is the biggest signing TNA has made since the beginning of the company (sorry Sting, but Kurt means a lot more than you in this day and age). I am very conflicted on this, as I'm looking at it in three different ways.

The first way is the completely selfish aspect of me that loves watching Kurt Angle wrestle and drools at the thought of Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe. From this perspective, this is probably the coolest thing ever, as Kurt can have some amazing matches in TNA.

However, then there's the very negative way of looking at this, which is a very valid thing. Kurt Angle is beaten all to hell. He's tired, he's hurt, and if he wants to go out and have a TNA-style match, he's very likely to get himself seriously hurt. Kurt needed time away from the business, he didn't need to wind up going to a company with a drastically more intense in-ring product (at least at the PPV's).

But there's a saving grace to the second way of looking at it, which is the third way of looking at it. By signing Kurt Angle, TNA very well may have saved his life, or at least his health. After being released by WWE, Kurt Angle was looking to do MMA. A person with a neck as bad off as Kurt's going in and fighting real, unscripted matches is almost a surefire way to get himself drastically injured. While TNA isn't the safest thing for him to do right now, at least this means they're keeping him out of MMA.

But all that aside...wow. Kurt Angle in TNA. Wow.
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