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| Kat | Nov 8 2006, 03:25 PM Post #251 |
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No idea who changed the thread title. It would be more accurate to say that this is the ONLY thread GLT posts in.
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| GeordiLaTuvok | Nov 8 2006, 04:17 PM Post #252 |
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No, you misunderstand me about the Macho Man thing. It just seems to me that since Lex Luger had recently departed the company by having his contract run up without Vince noticing it that Vince would do a better job of keeping himself aware of when contracts were running up. I don't necessarily feel that Vince should have been more proactive about Macho Man, I'm just saying that it's his own fault that he didn't realize Savage's contract was expiring soon. Vince thinks Savage screwed him because he didn't notice that Macho Man's contract was coming up, and then suddently he saw him appear on Nitro. While I agree that it would have been more professional for Savage to have told Vince he was leaving, I just have a hard time viewing this as anything but a slip-up by Vince. |
Once upon a time, a man lived. This man was a man who really lived. He was the best there was at what he did, living. Living is what he did, and he did it well. In fact, he did it too well. He lived so well that he made other people stop living. That is why he had to be stopped. To stop him, they sent Rimo.
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| GeordiLaTuvok | Nov 8 2006, 04:54 PM Post #253 |
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lol, And to answer this question...I am very critical of WWE in its current state. Specifically, the absolutely horrendous "creative" team and Vince McMahon's almost constant boneheaded decisions make it very frustrating to be a wrestling fan right now. That said, for the most part I still enjoy the actual wrestling on a WWE show, because the creative team at least can't screw that up too badly, and that is why I still watch. |
Once upon a time, a man lived. This man was a man who really lived. He was the best there was at what he did, living. Living is what he did, and he did it well. In fact, he did it too well. He lived so well that he made other people stop living. That is why he had to be stopped. To stop him, they sent Rimo.
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| defiantboy81 | Nov 9 2006, 08:29 AM Post #254 |
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If they could actually find decent wrestlers and use them properly, that would work. Kurt Angle v. Brock Lesnar was THE hottest feud of the past 5 years. They FCUKed up Randy Orton v hHh, they rushed it. What they should have done is what they DID do with Batista v hHh. Bill Goldberg was WASTED in WWE. The WCW Invasion was absolute crap. Some of the talent the WWE has hired is f*ing DIRE. Chris Masters. The Boogeyman. Can he actually wrestle? I'm not sure exactly what happened with Kurt Angle, whether he was pushing himself too hard or Vince was pushing Kurt too hard. The stuff between Chavo Guerrero & Rey Mysterio. Eddie Guerrero v. JBL. JBL was an abysmal champion. Have I missed much out? |
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| Kat | Nov 9 2006, 02:10 PM Post #255 |
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I've noticed lately that Jon Cena isn't getting bood anymore. Not too long ago, you could clearly hear about 50% of the crowd cheering and the other half booing at him. I don't hear that anymore. Is he finally getting over...not only with the kids and the lovestruck girls...but with the longtime wrestling fans as well? And WWE/Vince is pure genius. How do you get a guy over, who many of the fans still dislike???? Put him up against one of the most hated people in the country...Kevin Federline. Even I'm enjoying the K-Fed appearance and am rooting for Cena to pop him in the mouth. lol |
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| defiantboy81 | Nov 9 2006, 02:18 PM Post #256 |
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I don't know how long K-Fed will be around now Brit's giving him the boot. On the other hand, he's going to need the money. |
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| defiantboy81 | Nov 9 2006, 02:45 PM Post #257 |
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Check this out for a Survivor Series Match |
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| GeordiLaTuvok | Nov 10 2006, 03:28 AM Post #258 |
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I'm pumped for that one. I think it's going to be really, really fun. Just having Arn Anderson with Ric Flair again is enough to sell me on that match, but then the concept of Ric Flair teaming with Dusty Rhodes just makes it even cooler. And to Kai's previous post about Cena/K-Fed...agreed 100% on all points. Cena I think has won much of the crowd over with the fact that he responded so well to being booed (and I think this just got magnified when compared to Batista, who just acted like a big baby about being booed), as well as the fact that they not only paired him with a legit heel in Edge (see: not someone like Angle or Jericho who much of the crowd really wanted to cheer), and the fact is that despite his lack of in-ring skills, he goes out and gives it his all in every match (again, compared to Batista, who can't wrestle and doesn't even bother trying). So yeah...Cena has definitely turned many of his detractors, and while I still personally don't care much for him, I absolutely give him kudos for that. And while I think Vince and the WWE make a lot of pointless, stupid, and altogether easy -to-avoid mistakes, the fact is that bringing in K-Fed was pure genius. |
Once upon a time, a man lived. This man was a man who really lived. He was the best there was at what he did, living. Living is what he did, and he did it well. In fact, he did it too well. He lived so well that he made other people stop living. That is why he had to be stopped. To stop him, they sent Rimo.
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| QDonQ | Nov 12 2006, 03:39 PM Post #259 |
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I just don't understand why everyone thinks Vince makes "stupid moves" I think the man is a genius. It is wrestleing for god sakes. Fake Fighting. And yet we all watch every week. the man deserves a Nobel prize... |
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| GeordiLaTuvok | Nov 13 2006, 01:57 AM Post #260 |
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Why do people say Vince makes stupid moves? Vince resurrected ECW with the idea that he would hook the old ECW fans on it, then after a few months, he'd slowly start changing it to a WWE style product, and of course, all the fans would follow along. Well, he got impatient, and changed it to a WWE style product within a matter of weeks. The ratings plummeted. He has appointed his daughter as the head of the creative team. During her time there, she has produced nothing but utter garbage that is nothing more than uninteresting retreads of old stuff. When a talented writer (see: Paul Heyman) starts improving the shows past what Stephanie is capable of, said talented writer finds himself as a "creative consultant" sitting at home. JBL is a man who has chased off countless employees by being an asshole and a bully backstage, going so far even as to jokingly threaten to rape a man he'd tied up in the shower until he got the guy to cry, simply because he was "hazing" him. Vince McMahon thinks JBL is a benefit to the company, and isn't likely to fire him unless somehow JBL makes the idiotic mistake of hazing Shane. He signed Scott Steiner to a WWE deal, which was a huge deal that everyone got excited over. Huge pops for Steiner, and all that. Triple H didn't like having Scott Steiner around. Soon Steiner was stuck in a feud with Test on the undercard that just never ended. After the tremendous failure of the Great Khali on SmackDown, he decided to return him to television. He bought out WCW, thus shooting the wrestling industry in the foot. Raven's debut during a match that no one cared about in Tazz vs. Jerry Lawler got an enormous ovation. Raven had a brief feud with Chris Jericho, a short tag reign with Tazz, and then was stuck in meaningless hardcore feuds. He then found himself stuck on Heat. Francine, one of the most hard-working and unique female performers in recent memory (though not a fantastic in-ring worker, granted), was recently fired, because she didn't fit the cut-and-paste mold of the WWE divas. Now a year after his death, Eddie Guerrero's name is still being used as a prop in storylines to get cheap heel heat for Chavo Guerrero and cheap babyface pops for Rey Mysterio and Chris Benoit. Any time a writer, wrestler, or whoever goes to Vince and suggests that things need to be changed, that person is then verbally humiliated by Vince in front of the entire locker room. As a result, no one is willing to try and get things to change anymore. When Paul London asked Vince to let the cruiserweight division continue doing its high flying moves and being unique, he was almost instantly stripped of the Cruiserweight title and stuck on Velocity with a gimmick based around him whining all the time. Want me to keep going? I don't watch wrestling because of Vince McMahon. While I respect what he has accomplished in the past (with a big emphasis on "in the past"), the fact is that as long as wrestling was available on my TV, I'd be watching regardless of whether or not Vince McMahon is or ever was involved. I watch wrestling because I love the in-ring competition, and that's something Vince has minimal control over. I just miss the days when the shows were actually entertaining to watch besides the matches. |
Once upon a time, a man lived. This man was a man who really lived. He was the best there was at what he did, living. Living is what he did, and he did it well. In fact, he did it too well. He lived so well that he made other people stop living. That is why he had to be stopped. To stop him, they sent Rimo.
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