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The WWE Thread; Talk WWE Here!!
Topic Started: Feb 21 2006, 10:54 AM (44,760 Views)
admiralcortese
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as I am in complete shock that this thread is still here and probably one of the biggest threads on the site I have decided to change the title from the original one "WWE Sucks Thread" to "The WWE Thread". It seems more appropriate...

Now I am jumping in from a long time absent from the site so bare with me if you guys and gals have already gone over some of this stuff already....

It is VERY easy to see how Vince is loosing ratings... It has become apparent that Vince can no longer come up with original GOOD storylines. What he needs are some VERY good fueds... but you can't keep milking it like he has for the last few years. You have the match and maybe a rematch... thats it.. You CANNOT do it if you have a tag team match, then a handicap match, then a 3 way tag match, then the actual match, then a tag match again with new partners, rematch, handicap match, another rematch... that gets SOOO old. Yet that is what they CONSTANTLY did with Cena, that's why it got so boring to watch.

In order for Vince to get ratings up he must follow these simple steps:
1. Get the fucking WWE Championship off of Cena. If they HAVE to give him a title give him a tag belt or the IC belt but let's move on... more than a year now and its still the same old shit.
2. Exploit their talent. The WWE has great wrestlers like CM Punk but they do not use them to their full advantage.. they push the not so talented wrestlers like Umaga who is just a big pile of fat.
3. Convince some older wrestlers too come back and wrestle. Bring Stone Cold back and ratings will go through the rough. Bring The Rock back and ratings will go higher.
4. RAW introduces a new title. SD has 3 titles plus a tag title for the men. RAW has 2 titles plus a tag title. RAW needs to introduce a new SINGLES belt so that they can start some NEW fueds going.
5. Can we please see some GOOD and NEW fueds... I'd like to see HHH get the title and then see "King Booker" compete for it... give Cena a LONG break from the title... I'd like to see a Fued between Carlito and Jeff Hardy, Orton and Kennedy (when he gets back from suspension), London and Super Crazy and Benjamin.
6. Let's get some DIFFERENT match types going! List of match types. That is a list of match special match times... how many of them do we see? Almost none... hence why it isn't very entertaining to watch anymore! If we had more of those going then ratings would go up.. and don't JUST show them on PPV's... show some on RAW and SD so that ratings will go up.
7. Finally, the writers need to go back and watch the tapes from 2000-2003 and see what they did RIGHT then... they need to do another Wrestlemania X8. Too bad I was too young to go at the time but that was one of the best Wrestlemania's ever! If they recreate hype and match types like those then the WWE will experience success and ratings they haven't for years.

Also I think the WWE made a big mistake letting Angle go in my opinion. He was very talented and that came as a HUGE loss to the WWE.


Think back to last night and when everyone was gathered around the ring to find out who it was. The clue was given "They like gold". So Vince kicked out anyone that doesn't currently or never had gold. Did anyone else pick up HOW MANY PEOPLE LEFT? It was more than half the people that were there.... that is soooo sad.... that shows that the WWE just repeats the same people over and over again for titles and don't let it get around to everyone. That really speaks volumes about the WWE.

Also this poll shows how little WWE fans care about the WWE.... this poll is taken RIGHT from the WWE site...

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    What should Mr. McMahon do first with his newfound son?
    Play catch with him... literally 16.19 % 14622 Votes
    Tell him about the birds and the bees 9.19 % 8298 Votes
    Share a Guinness 23.38 % 21111 Votes
    Give him full control of Raw 51.22 % 46248 Votes

    Total Votes: 90279


The sad part is.... I COULD actually see the WWE doing that too as part of the script... that is so sad!

So yeh there is my 4 cents input on all this WWE stuff... enjoy the read?
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Hey man, good to see you back in the thread! First, I've gotta say that I agree with the majority of what you wrote, but if one thing about me is clear at this point, it's that I'm pointlessly nitpicky when it comes to wrestling, so I just wanna respond to a few things that I disagreed with there.

Not only is Umaga not just a big pile of fat, but I would go so far as to call him one of the single best performers in the company right now.

Bringing back Stone Cold would be a mistake, for a number of reasons. One, he is seriously too beat up to go back to an active in-ring career, meaning he would primarily just be a character, and whenever Austin is in that sort of role, he gets old very quickly. That means that a good portion of the shows would then be dedicated to someone who doesn't have an active in-ring career, which is already a problem with Vince dominating the shows. On top of that, it hinders the making of new stars, because it just means we'll see Stone Cold doing the Stunner to a bunch of people, and it's not exactly helpful to career elevation to get dominated by a retired wrestler. Stone Cold coming back would be good for a short-term ratings pop, but it would do nothing in the long run. Rock, on the other hand, would be tremendous to have back, since he could actually still have an in-ring career. The important thing is to keep building new stars, though, so too much reliance on names from the past isn't too helpful.

This is just nitpicking...Raw and SmackDown are technically equal in belts. They each have a World Title, a mid-card title, a set of Tag Titles, and a brand-specific title (Cruiserweight and Women's). Again, just some nitpicking there.

And...erm...WrestleMania X8 was good? When did that happen? Heh, seriously though...all that PPV had going for it was Rock vs. Hogan. Aside from that, it has a bunch of matches forgotten by time, and it was also the only WrestleMania to end with what was nothing more than a glorified squash match in Triple H vs. Chris Jericho. Rewind a year earlier to WrestleMania 17, and there is one hell of a show.

Overall, though, I agree with what you're saying here. History has shown that any time Vince puts himself in nearly complete creative control of that company, ratings have gone downhill. The man is a genius as a promoter, but as a booker...not so much.
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Sep 11 2007, 08:53 PM
as I am in complete shock that this thread is still here and probably one of the biggest threads on the site I have decided to change the title from the original one "WWE Sucks Thread" to "The WWE Thread". It seems more appropriate...


:wtf: but the name is different now.

hope he found his birthday thread. :lol:
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Sep 12 2007, 02:54 PM
admiralcortese
Sep 11 2007, 08:53 PM
as I am in complete shock that this thread is still here and probably one of the biggest threads on the site I have decided to change the title from the original one "WWE Sucks Thread" to "The WWE Thread". It seems more appropriate...


:wtf: but the name is different now.

hope he found his birthday thread. :lol:

nope I didn't... I better go find it now..

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Ok now I found it lol!
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I'm so sick of the Batista/Great Khali thing. They need to end it once and for all. In fact, they need to get rid of Khali all together. His entrance growl and head smashing is tired. I don't even care if Batista gets the title back (although it would suck if he didn't get it even for a little bit since he had to give it up due to an injury) ......... I just can't stand seeing Khali with it anymore. Heck, let Mysterio win it. I just thing they've played the feud out WAY too long.

And I agree about Cena. Although it seems much longer than a year that he's had that belt ......... it's time for a change.
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I'm so sick of the Batista/Great Khali thing. They need to end it once and for all. In fact, they need to get rid of Khali all together. His entrance growl and head smashing is tired. I don't even care if Batista gets the title back (although it would suck if he didn't get it even for a little bit since he had to give it up due to an injury) ......... I just can't stand seeing Khali with it anymore. Heck, let Mysterio win it. I just thing they've played the feud out WAY too long.

And I agree about Cena. Although it seems much longer than a year that he's had that belt ......... it's time for a change.

For all intents and purposes, it has been much longer than a year that Cena has had it. Although this particular title run has only been a year long, the fact is that he has basically held the title since WrestleMania 21, two and a half years ago. Since then, he has only lost it for rather brief periods at a time, and was always the number one contender during those periods he hasn't held it.
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Quick question, why has the title of the topic been changed? we are no longer openly acknowledging that it sucks, why is this :p?
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Sep 12 2007, 04:09 PM
Quick question, why has the title of the topic been changed? we are no longer openly acknowledging that it sucks, why is this :p?

scroll up and read the admirals post



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Sep 12 2007, 11:37 AM
I'm so sick of the Batista/Great Khali thing.  They need to end it once and for all.  In fact, they need to get rid of Khali all together.  His entrance growl and head smashing is tired.  I don't even care if Batista gets the title back (although it would suck if he didn't get it even for a little bit since he had to give it up due to an injury) ......... I just can't stand seeing Khali with it anymore.  Heck, let Mysterio win it.  I just thing they've played the feud out WAY too long.

And I agree about Cena.  Although it seems much longer than a year that he's had that belt ......... it's time for a change.

For all intents and purposes, it has been much longer than a year that Cena has had it. Although this particular title run has only been a year long, the fact is that he has basically held the title since WrestleMania 21, two and a half years ago. Since then, he has only lost it for rather brief periods at a time, and was always the number one contender during those periods he hasn't held it.

I knew it! I thought I was losing my mind when they kept saying he's had it for a year. He's had it for as long as I've been watching wrestling which has been over 2 years. Thanks for clearing that up, GLT.
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Sep 12 2007, 05:18 PM
scroll up and read the admirals post

oops. done. ok then. fair enough.
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