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Attempted Exorcism Ends in Man’s Death
Topic Started: Jul 30 2007, 06:24 AM (528 Views)
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Police use stun guns on grandfather seen choking 3-year-old girl

Updated: 4:32 p.m. MT July 29, 2007
PHOENIX - Officers responding to a report of an exorcism on a young girl found her grandfather choking her and used stun guns to subdue the man, who later died, authorities said Sunday.

The 3-year-old girl and her mother, who was also in the room during the struggle between 49-year-old Ronald Marquez and officers, were hospitalized, police said. Their condition was unavailable.

The relative who called police said an exorcism had also been attempted Thursday.

“The purpose was to release demons from this very young child,” said Sgt. Joel Tranter.

Officers arrived at the house Saturday and entered when they heard screaming coming from a bedroom, Tranter said.

Naked woman seen chanting
A bed had been pushed up against the door; the officers pushed it open a few inches and saw Marquez choking his bloodied granddaughter, who was crying in pain and gasping, Tranter said.

A bloody, naked 19-year-old woman who police later determined to be Marquez’s daughter and the girl’s mother was in the room, chanting “something that was religious in nature,” Tranter said.

The officers forced open the door enough for one to enter, leading to a struggle in which an officer used a stun gun on Marquez, Tranter said.

Mother may be charged
After the initial stun had no visible effect, another officer squeezed into the room and stunned him. The girl was freed and passed through the door to the relative, Tranter said.

Marquez was placed in handcuffs after a struggle with officers and initially appeared normal, but then stopped breathing, Tranter said. He could not be revived and was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Tranter declined to identify Marquez’s daughter and granddaughter but said they lived in the house with Marquez.

The mother was not arrested, but police will consider criminal charges, Tranter said.

There was no phone listing at Ronald Marquez’s address.



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Possessed at the age of 3? The Devil get's them early these days, doesn't he? :sarcastic:

I wonder where the blood came from or if it was animal blood. :confused:
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What is with Arizona lately? Helicopter crashes, a crazy exorcism. What's next? :confused:
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I don't know if it's just Arizona, but there's crazy stuff happening all over the country. And it seems like it's getting worse every day.
 
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AdmiralGummy
Jul 30 2007, 06:19 AM
I don't know if it's just Arizona, but there's crazy stuff happening all over the country. And it seems like it's getting worse every day.

On behalf of Witbee who seems to be MIA, allow me to quote a scripture he loved:

2 Timothy 3:1-5:
1. But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3. without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4. treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5. having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
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Rajiin
Jul 30 2007, 11:07 AM
On behalf of Witbee who seems to be MIA, allow me to quote a scripture he loved:

2 Timothy 3:1-5:
1. But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3. without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4. treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5. having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.

One thing that I will never, ever discuss on any message board is the Bible or Religion.
So, when you quote Bible Passages, it goes right over my head.
 
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There's a book of Timothy?
Everything happens for a reason, but sometimes the reason is that you're stupid and make bad decisions.
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Jul 30 2007, 02:37 PM
There's a book of Timothy?

:sarcastic: Yes, Ms. Athiest, there is. In fact there are TWO books of Timothy.

Gummy, I respect your decision not to discuss religion as long as you respect the rights of others TO discuss it if they so choose. :thumbs:
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Rajiin
Jul 30 2007, 08:05 PM
:sarcastic:  Yes, Ms. Athiest, there is.  In fact there are TWO books of Timothy.

Gummy, I respect your decision not to discuss religion as long as you respect the rights of others TO discuss it if they so choose.  :thumbs:

And I do respect the rights of those who do choose to discuss it.
That's partly what this country was founded upon.
 
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AdmiralGummy
Jul 30 2007, 05:41 PM
Rajiin
Jul 30 2007, 08:05 PM
:sarcastic:  Yes, Ms. Athiest, there is.  In fact there are TWO books of Timothy.

Gummy, I respect your decision not to discuss religion as long as you respect the rights of others TO discuss it if they so choose.  :thumbs:

And I do respect the rights of those who do choose to discuss it.
That's partly what this country was founded upon.

Y'know, it's been awhile since Kai burned a Christian at the proverbial stake. :lol:

I think she's going soft in her athiest old age. :giggle:
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Rajiin
Jul 30 2007, 06:03 PM
AdmiralGummy
Jul 30 2007, 05:41 PM
Rajiin
Jul 30 2007, 08:05 PM
:sarcastic:  Yes, Ms. Athiest, there is.  In fact there are TWO books of Timothy.

Gummy, I respect your decision not to discuss religion as long as you respect the rights of others TO discuss it if they so choose.  :thumbs:

And I do respect the rights of those who do choose to discuss it.
That's partly what this country was founded upon.

Y'know, it's been awhile since Kai burned a Christian at the proverbial stake. :lol:

I think she's going soft in her athiest old age. :giggle:

Actually, a couple of weeks ago I thought I'd test my debating skills so I took the side of the Christians over at startrek.com. It was fun, I totally PWNed Crobob and got him to the point of having nothing else to argue except for "you're stupid". :lol: It was kinda fun arguing for the other side.
Everything happens for a reason, but sometimes the reason is that you're stupid and make bad decisions.
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