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Hillary"s Resume; nice............
Topic Started: Feb 7 2008, 06:52 AM (1,627 Views)
Corwin8
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Subject: Hillary's Resume'
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:49:34 +0000

Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her "record," which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady, or "co-president" – plus her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes:

As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would "demonize "anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.

Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as "my worst mistake."

Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn.

Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee in 1996 both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years.

In order to open "slots" in the White House for her friends the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for "gross mismanagement" and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime, mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the "bimbo eruption squad" and scandal defense:
--- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit.
--- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" 56 times under oath).
- Hillary wrote "It Takes a Village," demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint.
- Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support.
- Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen.
- In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the "woman card" by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her.
- Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars (there are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records).
- As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.
- Hillary's one notable vote, supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed.


Quite a resume, isn't it? Sounds more like an organized crime family...



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organized crime family?

why do americans need to demonize people who don't agree with their politics?
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Feb 7 2008, 08:18 AM
organized crime family?

why do americans need to demonize people who don't agree with their politics?

Because that's what this country was founded on (besides widespread bloodshed, of course) ............. didn't agree with the British government so they broke off and came here. Americans have been destroying each other ever since over politics and religion.

God forbid a woman gets into office .......... the redneck good ole boys would have a fit. Better a black man who really isn't black, than a woman. :sarcastic:
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how much experience does he have? :lol:
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Feb 7 2008, 08:33 AM
how much experience does he have? :lol:

Being black?
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I don't care if she squats to pee or not. She is a Socialist, and is not a good choice.

I see very few good choices out there.

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Interesting article:

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Obama's Experience vs. Clinton's Experience
News Type: Event — Wed Feb 6, 2008 6:06 PM EST

Which candidate has the experience you are looking for in a President?

A lot has been made of Hillary Clinton's experience, it is the theme of her campaign. Knowing a lot about Hillary, but little about what experience she has, I decided I would investigate her experience and compare it to Obama's experience. I got the idea from a comment I saw, I don't remember exactly where, that listed Obama and Clinton's legislative experience.

EXHIBIT 1: LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE

To begin with let's look at both of their Elected Office experiences. Clinton was first elected to Office in 2000 in the State of New York, a state she had never resided in prior to her run for Senate. Obama was first elected to Office in 1996 in Illinois, a state he had lived and worked in for 7 years. He served in that capacity until 2004 when we was then elected to the US Senate from Illinois.

Right off the bat we can all see that Clinton has 8 years of experience as a legislator, while Obama has 12 years of experience. So Obama has 4 more years of Legislative/Elected Official experience than Clinton.

EXHIBIT 2: PRE-LAW SCHOOL EXPERIENCE

Both have additional work experience. After graduating from Columbia University with a BA in Political Science (emphasis in International Relations), Obama worked for Business International Corporation, as a research associate in the general intenatioanl business information division (NY). He then switched jobs and went to work for the New York Public Interest Research Group, a non-partisan activist organization started by Ralph Nader. Obama then moved to Chicago.

From 1985-1988 Obama worked as a grassroots neighborhood organizer on the South Side of Chicago. He worked primarily with two public housing projects to start college prep programs, job training programs and other community oriented activities.

Hillary Clinton graduated from Wellesley College with a BA in Political Science. During college Hillary participated in the following political activities: President Young Republicans, Interned for House Republican Conference, Assisted Nelson Rockefeller's Campaign, Attended the 1968 Republican National Convention.

Hillary went to Alaska after she graduated. She worked as a dishwasher and salmon canner where she was fired for complaining about working conditions. She then went straight to Law School

EXHIBIT 3: LAW SCHOOL EXPERIENCE

Starting at Yale in the fall of 1969 and graduating in 1973. In law school she: was editor for Yale Review of Law and Social Action; worked for New Haven Legal Services; was awarded a research grant to work on Edleman's Washington Research Project where she was assigned to Walter Mondale in order to research migrant worker problems; Interned at Oakland Law Firm Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein; Campaigned in Texas for McGovern.

Obama then went to Harvard Law School in 1988. While at Harvard Obama received national headlines for becoming the First African-American President of Harvard Law Review. He graduated Magna Cum Laude.

EXHIBIT 4: POST-LAW SCHOOL EXPERIENCE

After earning his JD from Harvard, Obama moved back to Chicago to work on Illinois Project Vote, which resulted in 150k newly registered voters in Cook County (Chicago). In 1993 he went to work for Miner, Barnhill and Galland. At that firm he worked on voter rights and employment litigation, real estate transactions involving not-for-profits and low income and mixed income housing projects. He also served during this time as general counsel for local Health Clinics, Social Service Agencies and Charter Schools.

Also in 1993 Barack became a legal professor at the University of Chicago. He taught constitutional law. He continued to work at the Law School up until the time he was elected to the US Senate.

After earning her JD from Yale, Clinton worked as a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in DC. In 1974 she failed the DC Bar Exam and decided to move to Arkansas where Bill was running for congress. He did not succeed in this campaign. Both of them took jobs with the Arkansas University, Fayetteville Law School. By 1977, Bill had won the Arkansas Attorney General campaign and Hillary had earned a job with the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. She continued to be involved politically, urging new laws to recognize children's rights, but her law practice focused on Patent Infringement and Intellectual Property law, though she rarely set foot in a court room.

In 1977 Carter appointed Hillary to the board of Directors of the Legal Services Corporation, where she served from 1978-1981. This is the first in a series of corporate boards that Hillary has served on. In 1978 She became First Lady of Arkansas. The next year she was made a full partner at Rose Law Firm. From 1982-1992, while First Lady of Arkansas, she chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee. By her final year with Rose Law Firm Hillary was earning over $200k per year.

During this period she also served on two not-for-profit boards as chair of the Children's Defense Fund and as a member of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services. In addition to these non-profit boards, she also served on a number of Corporate Boards: TCBY (1985-1992); Wal-Mart Stores (1986-1992); Lafarge (1990-1992). Both TCBY and Wal-Mart were clients of Rose Law Firm during her tenure on the boards. She did not try to change Wal-Mart's anti-labor union practices while on the board and was unsuccessful in trying to get more women added to the company's management. During Bill's 1986 reelection campaign her employment with Rose Law Firm came under fire because the Rose Law did business for the state.

In 1993 Hillary became First Lady. She tried unsuccessfully to get health care reform passed (it was never even given a floor vote). She also helped to create the Office of Violence Against Women under the DOJ; helped get sCHIPS passed and initiated the Adoption and Safe Families Act. In 2000 she was elected as a US Senator from NY, a state she had never resided in prior to her campaign.

CONCLUSION

Both candidates have extensive work histories. Obama has never worked for corporate America, except for his time with Business International Corporation, which was later bought by the Economist. The law firm he worked for focused primarily on assisting not-for-profits partnering up with corporations to provide low and mixed income housing in poor communities throughout Chicago.

Most of Obama's work life has focused on helping the poor communities on the South Side of Chicago. He has a history as a grassroots organizer and that is how he was first elected to the Illinois Senate, as a grassroots candidate (along with some challenging names on petitions of his competitors, getting them removed from the ballot). He failed in his run for Congress against Bobby Rush, an entrenched political powerhouse on the South Side of Chicago. Obama ran for elected office for the first time only 5 years after graduating from law school and only 13 years after graduating from College.

Hillary has done a lot of work for children's rights and other pro bono work. She did this work while working for on of the premier law firms in Little Rock, Rose Law Firm. Rose Law Firm focuses primarily on corporate litigation and transactions. She worked primarily on patent infringement and intellectual property litigation, though she did not do much court work. Rose Law Firm is well entrenched in Arkansas' business and political institutions.

She is also credited as being the most politically involved First Lady since Eleanore Roosevelt. Despite this fact, she failed in her effort to pass Health Care Reform in 1994. She contemplated a run for Governor in Arkansas in 1988 but decided against it when polls showed she would fight an uphill battle, so Bill ran again. She then ran for Office for the first time 27 years after graduating from law school and 31 years after graduating from college. She ran in a state she never lived in prior to her establishment of residency in the state in January of 2000.

I wanted to lay out each candidates experiences so that voters can judge for themselves which candidate has BETTER experience.



They're pretty close.

I, of course, love John McCain though. Not to say I'd vote for him but I just love the guy. He reminds me of my father ........ always has. Not sure why, besides the Vietnam Vet thing they have in common and the age thing.
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I don't care if she squats to pee or not. She is a Socialist, and is not a good choice.

I see very few good choices out there.

Some people feel she's a good choice as long as Bill is by her side.
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Feb 7 2008, 08:26 AM

God forbid a woman gets into office .......... the redneck good ole boys would have a fit. Better a black man who really isn't black, than a woman. :sarcastic:

That's a rather narrow-minded comment. Nowhere in Corwin's post does it show anything negative about her being a woman. If she doesn't get elected, it's because of her shady politics and lack of integrity. Not because she's a woman. Anyone who votes her simply because she has a vagina (we assume) is a danger to this country.
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Rajiin
Feb 7 2008, 08:26 AM

God forbid a woman gets into office .......... the redneck good ole boys would have a fit.  Better a black man who really isn't black, than a woman.  :sarcastic:

That's a rather narrow-minded comment. Nowhere in Corwin's post does it show anything negative about her being a woman. If she doesn't get elected, it's because of her shady politics and lack of integrity. Not because she's a woman. Anyone who votes her simply because she has a vagina (we assume) is a danger to this country.

If you look back to my post you will see that I was not responding to Corwin's post. I was responding to Wissaboo's question. My comment was not made towards Corwin but towards good ole boy redneck views in this country. If Corwin considers himself to be a good ole boy redneck, that's his problem.

And whether Hillary has 'shady politics and lack of integrity', is your opinion, just like my comment was my opinion.
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