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UFC Ruins The Party...
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Topic Started: Nov 6 2010, 12:56 AM (447 Views)
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BX
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Nov 6 2010, 12:56 AM
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So this all started when the UFC decided they wanted to hold a show in Vancouver. Vancouver city council decided that they didn't want UFC in their town so AFTER the show was booked and set in motion they changed the laws to make it next to impossible for any future UFC or WWE event to be held in Vancouver.
Along with a 1000% per seat tax increase for ANY "combat sports event" which includes but is not limited to UFC also includes Pro Wrestling like WWE.
It was because of these new rules that WWE pulled it's most recent show from the PNE Agrodome only a week after tickets went onsale when it was clear that Vancouver city counil was not going to budge from their new rules.
Until UFC decided they wanted to play in Vancouver everything was business as usual, now thanks to the strong arm of UFC almost forcing their way into the playground everyone else has to pay the price.
http://slam.canoe.ca...4/15686986.html
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VANCOUVER - The WWE normally comes to Vancouver at least once or twice a year and was scheduled to return tonight, October 16th, for a show at the PNE Agrodome. That event was then inexplicably cancelled not long after it was announced, leaving wrestling fans to wonder why.
It turns out fans might have a long wait ahead of them as it has come to light that the WWE pulled the show after the City of Vancouver enacted bylaw changes that may keep the WWE out of town for the foreseeable future.
That's grim news for Vancouver area wrestling fans who turn out in large numbers to any World Wrestling Entertainment event, but it is not surprising to anyone associated with sanctioning events within the city.
A UFC event was held in June in Vancouver, but not after considerable opposition to it was raised by members of Vancouver City Council. That controversy was over the violence of mixed martial arts, a combat sport that is much different from the entertainment professional wrestling provides. Nonetheless, the City of Vancouver sees no such distinction and have lumped the WWE in with UFC and other fighting promotions and have made it more costly for these events to be held here. And it is a position it seems unlikely to deviate from.
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With the rise in popularity of combat sports -- specifically mixed martial arts -- city councils nationwide have had to grapple with the issue of allowing these events within their city limits. In December of 2009, the City of Vancouver decided to implement a two-year trial on allowing these events. The June 11th UFC event at GM Place was approved by the VAC and the City in March 2010. Then, in April, the city enacted a bylaw change that altered how these events would be handled in the future. Of these changes, two immediately raised red flags for Mladenovic -- a seat tax increase and a demand for separate and distinct medical coverage for the athletes.
"I could tell right away this was going to a problem," Mladenovic said, and the VAC quickly went to work trying resolve these issues. But the Commission's proposals to the City were ultimately rejected and the bylaw changes remained on the books, meaning new policies existed that the WWE had no idea about until they made their regular call to Vancouver to book a show. To their surprise, they learned that business in Vancouver was anything but usual.
"Basically, they wanted things no other jurisdiction requires," Rich Hering, WWE VP of Governmental Relations and Risk Management, told SLAM! Wrestling. "Unfortunately, these new rules and regulations do not make it conducive for a promoter to promote in the City of Vancouver. Some of these issues came up after the show had already been scheduled. We explained this and they said they would look into these issues and get back to us and they did not do that in time. So we had to pull the date and move the event."
The issue of insurance was particularly confounding, Hering said, because the WWE self-insures all its wrestlers already. Each wrestler has unlimited insurance issued by a third-party company that will cover them for any injury or health issue.
"Nobody makes you have a separate and distinct policy when you are already showing proof of coverage," Hering further explained. "The fact is we already carry unlimited coverage for our wrestlers. Why would we buy something when we already have better coverage than they require?"
The issue of seat taxes was a serious issue for the WWE as well. Before the bylaw change, promotions were charged a ten cent per seat tax when events sold more than 500 seats. The new bylaw change increased that tax to one dollar per seat, an amount that Mladenovic called "exorbitant."
The October 16th WWE event was scheduled at the smaller PNE Agrodome, which has a seating capacity of 5,000 (although generally more seats are added at wrestling events since the ring is smaller than a traditional sports field). Before April, if the event sold out, WWE would have paid $500 in seat taxes. After the bylaw change, that amount increased to $5,000 -- a 1,000% increase. If the show were held at the Pacific Coliseum in Vancouver, where many WWE shows have been held in the past, the event would cost $16,281 for the WWE if the event sold out -- up from $1,628 charged before the bylaw change. That amount goes up again if the event were held at the even-bigger Rogers Arena (formerly known as GM Place), where the Vancouver Canucks play.
Obviously, no company is thrilled being hit with a 1,000% tax increase and Mladenovic can understand why the WWE would pull its show under these circumstances. "There is no way a pro wrestling promotion would pay these kinds of rates," Mladenovic said.
[personal note]I can't stand UFC, it's as boring as watching paint dry. The only reason i ever go to the UFC event at the casino here is to hang out with my friend, and it's free and we go for Pachos and Chicken Lips at Kelly Obrien's after ward... that and the fact that Arianny Celeste the ring girl is a fucking babe[/personal note]
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Nov 6 2010, 09:05 AM
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sounds like the city council's fault, not UFC
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Nov 6 2010, 04:17 PM
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Personally, I have no interest whatsoever in any kind of MMA/UFC shows at all. I find the whole thing pointless.
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Nov 7 2010, 05:08 AM
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sounds like the city council's fault, not UFC It was the UFC people that forced the issue down their throats, if they had tried a little more tact then things could have gone diffrent. But no UFC wanted their show and would do whatever they had to to get it no matter who's toes they stepped on.
Vancouver City Council does deserve some of the blame but the UFC people need to shoulder some as well. Everything was going fine in Vancouver until they showed up on the scene and ruined the party for everyone.
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Nov 7 2010, 05:24 PM
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Sounds like the UFC made an offer then Vancouver accepted then just decided after the fact to prevent this from happening again. The council may have been in opposition but they still agreed to hold the show.
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Mar 11 2012, 04:28 PM
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Kind of makes me ashamed to be from Vancouver. Greedy SOB's.
Anderson Silva will defeat Chael Sonnen. And F%$# Alistair Overeem, I hope someone knocks that cocky SOB out.
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