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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 23 2013, 02:26 PM (193 Views) | |
| Luxa | Oct 23 2013, 02:26 PM Post #1 |
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This is one of the most upsetting and immoral topics I have heard of. Bioethicism (think Nazi Germany) is the idea that the old, mentally or physically disabled do not deserve treatment and that essentially these undesirable types should not be treated. Here is a link to an article that explains a bit more. Bioethicism The truly frightening thing is that this idea has gained mainstream acceptance and is actually being taught in American Universities and has been dicussed in health care issues by the fedreal government. Now this is unconfirmed but it is my understanding that Obamacare does not allow for the treatment of cancer victims over the age of 65. This reeks of this type of thinking (bioethicism) and for me is just one of the many ideas that is eroding the moral fiber of our country.
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| Cruervo | Oct 23 2013, 06:55 PM Post #2 |
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Yeah, it's expensive. Americans don't like expensive things that aren't toys. |
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Every Republic has its sins, but communism is a joke that is not funny. Get fluoride out of the water! We both said a lot of things that you are going to regret. | |
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| wissaboo | Oct 24 2013, 10:04 AM Post #3 |
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http://www.politifact.com/oregon/statements/2013/jun/08/chain-email/will-seniors-be-denied-cancer-treatment-under-obam/ more here http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/ |
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| JustJoy | Oct 24 2013, 11:14 AM Post #4 |
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All about the fish tacos
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I'm pro choice on this issue. I think it's the patient's right to choose, not the governments or the doctors or the insurance companies. My mom was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and died 6 weeks later. She did not want any radical treatment. She could have been put on a ventilator to prolong her life, but didn't want that. The doctors respected her wishes and made her comfortable. They did try a small dose of chemo, just not to totally give up on her, but that launched her into cardiac arrest. My girlfriend's mom was also diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. She and my girlfriend insisted on any treatment available, no matter how cutting edge. They got in touch with a doctor who was a Harvard Graduate. He said he would infuse her with such powerful drugs and radiation that if they didn't kill her they would cure her. That was over 10 years ago and she's been healthy ever since. |
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| Luxa | Oct 25 2013, 01:03 PM Post #5 |
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Bioethicism is a real issue and it's not about a patient's right to choose but about medical professionals choice to deny care based on the desire of a medical professional to refuse to treat "undesireable" candidates. |
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"Hey dad, I just remembered something from when I was a baby." "Really son? What was it?" "I just remembered I wanted to punch you in the face." "He was a thief, and a terrorist."On the other hand he had a tremendous singing voice." "Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades." "Mom's just worried they're gonna rip my heart out." | |
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| JustJoy | Oct 25 2013, 03:13 PM Post #6 |
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All about the fish tacos
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I understand that. I don't think doctors or the government should have the right to refuse treatment. |
| Lighten up, Francis | |
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| Cruervo | Oct 25 2013, 08:28 PM Post #7 |
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The government begins to be able to claim right though when they are supporting it. The government claimed it could force the BSA to change policy because of tax credit and the lending of federal resources. Now that insurance is being subsidized and with medicaid expanded, the government can claim authority. |
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Every Republic has its sins, but communism is a joke that is not funny. Get fluoride out of the water! We both said a lot of things that you are going to regret. | |
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| JustJoy | Oct 26 2013, 06:18 AM Post #8 |
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All about the fish tacos
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I agree. They can totally withhold the funds at that point. You just have to hope that there will be doctors who will listen and work something out with the patients. My mom's doctors did totally right by us at the time. |
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| Luxa | Oct 28 2013, 10:46 AM Post #9 |
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I for one will help people any way I can when I become a nurse. |
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"Hey dad, I just remembered something from when I was a baby." "Really son? What was it?" "I just remembered I wanted to punch you in the face." "He was a thief, and a terrorist."On the other hand he had a tremendous singing voice." "Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades." "Mom's just worried they're gonna rip my heart out." | |
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| wissaboo | Oct 28 2013, 02:18 PM Post #10 |
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Actually I do think doctors have a right to refuse treatment to someone. If they think the treatment will cause more harm than good. |
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