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| Final Tribal Council; Blaine vs Lt Surge vs Sabrina | |
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 12:07 PM Post #46 |
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Coming up soon, Sabrina answers all your burning questions
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 12:55 PM Post #47 |
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Hey Blue I'll start off with an explanation for all of my votes:1. Red - obvious first boot who was inactive until the last day 2. Giovanni - I started off aligning with him but he had gone AWOL towards the end so there was no point keeping him any longer 3. Surge - we all know what a clusterfuck this vote was :lol: This was honestly the only time during the entire game where I was surprised by a vote. I wanted Surge gone because I could feel you and espescially Misty growing closer with him. Every time his name was mentioned, Misty would brush it aside instantly. I had hoped you guys were closer with our foursome than with him, but it wasn't to be. I quickly learnt from that experience though. 4. Red - I actually liked Red and could have worked with him, but I can't deal with people who make stupid moves, and going off his nut with that call out thread after Blaine's boot was beyond dumb, so I cut my ties with him. 5. Erika - After you and Misty blindsided me at the Blaine vote, I knew you guys would have total control over the tribe if I didn't act fast. You had told me about Misty's multiple deals with everyone on the tribe, and how she had gotten close with Erika too. Surge and I had made up by then so I played up to him the close relationship between Misty and Erika. I knew Surge wasn't particularly close with Erika so it wasn't too hard to get him to vote that way. I also pulled in Brock and Falkner, who both felt on the outs, and made them included in this vote, to grow these relationships and trust between them. 6. Janine - I had mentioned trying to take out Janine a few times and after Brock and Falkner both approached me saying that she was after me, this gave me an excuse to go all out and I knew it was the right time to strike. With the trust I had built with them over the last vote I was able to get them on my side, along with Misty and yourself who probably didn't trust Surge and Janine as much after the Erika vote. I told Surge about the plan too and made it sound like it was my only choice so he would still trust me after. 7. Falkner - By this point we needed a strong Kanto outfit to make the merge. With Janine coming back, it was obvious the Blue/Misty/Surge/Janine group were sticking together, and going into the merge fractured would be silly, so this vote I simply went along with. 8. Brock - Once again, Brock hurt himself by making a silly move and lashing out against Surge at TC. This immediatley turned the attention on him so I had to distance myself from him and vote him out, else risk being ostricised at the merge. 9. Pryce - Megre boot for all the reasons you know. I wasn't ready to go against Kanto just yet. 10. Chuck - This vote was the interesting one. I knew from Morty and Bugsy that Janine had been trying to get them to vote for me out of all the Kantos, to keep herself safe. They could have been lying to me, but what were the odds of them picking the one person who I'd had history with to make op the story about? It was unlikely. I knew Janine was going to turn on me soon so I had to do it first. I switched my vote from Bugsy to Chuck and convinced Morty to back down on his flipping to Kanto, and he kept his vote on Janine. No one else knew about this plan. I trusted Bugsy and Morty when they said Chuck had voted for Janine. I didn't want to go up to Chuck myself and say "hey dude, we're voting you out but vote for Janine so you'll go up against her" so I trusted the other two. Obviously it didn't work out but I feel that was more bad luck than terrible game play. 11. Morty - I knew I was probably screwed but the only other plan I was being told was Morty, so there was no point doing anything different. 12. Janine - The plan was again to split up a powerful pair in the game. Turns out Misty changed her vote last minute, which would ultimitely prove a fatal mistake by her. I made sure there were at least two votes on Janine I trusted so if Misty betrayed me again at least I'd be up against Janine instead of Surge, who I was confident I could beat. 13. Misty - With the numbers dwindling I could have a huge say in the vote targets again. I needed Misty gone straight away and I needed her to lose the duel. I let Blaine do the talking because he wasn't being targeted that night. It makes more sense that people would listen to him than the girl apparently scrambling for her life, but I had an equal say in what was going on that round. 14. Blue - You and Morty were the only ones yet to face the Arena, and I knew I couldn't let anyone at the end with this on their resume. I knew Blaine was being voted for by Surge and yourself, so I felt I had nothing to lose by voting for you. If Blaine won I had an ally left who would definitely not vote for me in the last round. If you won, Blaine would be on the jury and a possible vote for myself. 15. Morty - The obvious vote. I couldn't risk not voting for Morty here. The worst case scenario was fighting him in a duel, which I was confident in winning. This was a better case for me than if I was safe with Blaine and Surge in the duel. I did not want to sit next to Morty at the end. |
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 01:04 PM Post #48 |
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That took longer than expected but I wanted to give you as much info as possible. I'll try and keep this one brief. Please note that I don't believe having most control always corresponds to playing the best game. 1. Misty - apart from the Erika vote, pretty much dictated every vote 2. Blue - Misty's loyal sidekick, with her every step of the way but perhaps didn't have the commanding authority she did 3. Surge - the only player who voted correctly every time pre-merge must count for something. I don't think he dictated many himself but he was certainly in on them all. 4. Sabrina - I nearly put myself above Surge because I never felt I was in any danger pre-merge and felt I was controlling my fate pretty well. Ultimately, the Blaine vote cost me a spot in my mind. 5. Janine - Was in on all the votes but I didn't feel had a lot of input into them. The time she tried to stamp her authority she ended up being voted out. 6. Brock - Didn't really control the votes but stayed loyal and was safe for the most part which is all he needed to do until the merge where he would have been in a decent enough spot. Unfortunately fell one place short. 7. Blaine - The first time he tried to take control he got voted out and when he came back he just laid low and followed the crowd to keep safe. |
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 01:21 PM Post #49 |
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Hi Misty, I get that I probably won't get your vote tonight and I wasn't expecting it. But I will have a crack at addressing the numerous flaws in your speech. Firstly, in no way was I blindsided in any of the times I was voted off :lol: The first thing I said in my confessionals after the Chuck/Bugsy vote was thanking the hosts for the game and that lamenting on my inevidable 8th (?) place. I full well knew I was going that night. When I came back I did think you were voting for Surge, but I really never trusted you again after the Blaine vote. I was able to trust Blue again but you just seemed a bit more fake? I dunno, point is while I thought I could have been safe, in no way was I sure of it, which is why I did all I could to have two solid votes on Janine so I could face her in the duel if I had to. In fact I would say I was the only person not blindsided here. Blaine obviously was on Kanto and Surge was too at his second vote off. He fully expected it to be Blue and yourself that night, as his tyrade against me that night suggests ![]() Secondly, you say that everyone wanted to be sitting next to me at the end. Yet you also say that I am well liked by the Johto section of the jury, which makes up half the votes. Wouldn't this classify as extremely good game play? I have put myself in a position where I am a good chance to get half of the votes, plus Brock, and yet still everyone wanted to take me to the end? Sounds pretty impressive to me. As for your question, I think your memory fails you. Are you saying that the Johto's voted Surge out so he could take out Pryce? :lol: I'm pretty damn sure he was voted out with the hope that he would lose too. And the only reason he wasn't voted out more often in the hope he would lose was because there are so many people on the jury who should be annoyed at him, should be pissed at how they were treated, that he doesn't deserve their vote. So why would I want him to lose? |
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| Blue | Sep 26 2013, 01:25 PM Post #50 |
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Thanks Sab, that helped a lot. One final question tho - did you intentionally leave me out of the Erika vote? I remember talking to you that round about making a move and you said you would let me know if you got the numbers, but you never did. Was there strategy behind that or did you actually just not have the time?
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 01:28 PM Post #51 |
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Also this is ridiculous. If he hadn't turned people off, we would have voted him out. But he did, so we didn't. To say that if he didn't piss everyone off he'd still be in the same postion now ir just silly. |
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 01:30 PM Post #52 |
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Oh geez, it was I while ago. I can see into the future but my memory is not quite as good. I don't think telling you beforehand would have been a good idea. I still felt you were closest with Misty and I just needed to let you guys know that you didn't have complete control of the game. Telling you beforehand would have just undermined that fact. |
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| Blue | Sep 26 2013, 01:37 PM Post #53 |
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That's all I wanted to hear, thanks. Good luck to you all! I look forward to talking to you when the game is over. Peace out losers
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 01:50 PM Post #54 |
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Hi Bugsy Good to speak to you again!Like the others have said, the decision to vote Pryce was just sticking to the Kanto alliance. Flipping first thing at the merge is rarely a good idea and Pryce was seen to be the weakest in challenges. There really wasn't much more to it. Oh how amazing it would have been had the Chuck/Janine vote worked I actually agree with a lot of what Surge said with his answer. Assuming Janine lost the duel, although Kanto would have been (rightfully) pissed at me, I think they would have had to stuck with me for this round else they'd risk going to F7 with you, Chuck, Morty and Blaine who had Johto connections. I'd have probably gone back to Kanto initially but we wouldn't have been able to split the vote, so I would have likely targeted Chuck and got you guys to target Misty or Surge. Like I knew when I took the risk to side with you, eventually the flipping would probably catch up with me but if I was voted out I had confidence in my challenge abilities.. I don't think I would have gone to the end with you, as I had built longer and stronger relationships with others on Kanto and even Morty, but it would have been fun while it lasted and you would have been a huge asset to my game.Probably the turning point from me was Blaine's blindside on Kanto. Until then I had been relying on my foursome with Blue and Misty too heavily. After this happened I worked on my social bonds with everyone in the tribe. I got close with Surge, Brock, Red and Falkner. I didn't really get too close with Janine as I found her PM style hard to deal with, but after voting her out I made a truce with her which would last til the merge. At the merge I was also able to make strong bonds with the Johto members. I felt I had done enough with Morty, Pryce and yourself to not be the target of your votes for the foreseeable future. Morty even told me that he felt I was one of the only people to have a real conversation with him and not just talk purely strategic. So I guess I'm saying the key to my success in the game was the social bonds I made with all players in the game. I had thought about this before so I'm glad it's come up. If there was another vote I would have probably actually voted for Blaine Firstly, I think I'd have more chance against Surge at the end. But more importantly, it would have given me the best chance of avoiding a duel with two proven strong competitors. I would have bet my life that Blaine would have voted Surge, I had that much trust in him, but I didn't know which way Surge would vote. If Surge votes for Blaine then I am safe regardless of which way I vote. If Surge votes for me and I vote Surge, I'm in the Arena, but if I vote Blaine it is a 1-1-1 tie and I guess we draw rocks? :lol: Either way I would have had a better chance of getting to the F2 if I voted for Blaine.Thanks Bugsy
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 02:09 PM Post #55 |
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Hey Morty! Thanks for your questions ![]() Stategic game: 1. Blue - being second in command to the HBIC was great play. He was in on the same amount of votes as Misty but was always able to use her as a shield when shit hit the fan. He was never in any danger before she was voted out, which is testament to his game. 2. Misty - same as Blue and would have been the best strategic player if you'd made the end, but in the end because you were so good you put a target on yourself earlier than Blue did. 3. Morty - you have to be doing something right to come from the minority tribe and not have anyone want to vote you out til the very end. I think you were excellent in the way you played everyone in the game. 4. Bugsy - apart from Morty, he was the one from Johto I could tell had a strategic mind come merge time. He also had complete control of Johto which has to count for something. 5. Janine - sticking with Surge could have worked really well like it did for Blue with Misty. However her upfront style didn't work as well and she was seen as weaker in challenges which put her out before him. 6. Brock - I think he did very well on Kanto to, despite being on the outs for a long period, make it close to the merge in a pretty good position. Unfortunately he shot himself in the foot in the end which brings him down a peg 7. Pryce - unfortunately we never really talked any real stategy, but you did seem like a logical thinker and if we had more time together you could have placed higher on this ranking 8. Chuck - we never really spoke... Social 1. Morty - seriously, everyone fucking loved you. Not enough compliments on your social game can be given 2. Misty - she was also very popular but I could tell with her it was a little fake, at least with me. But overall, I can't deny she had good social game with most players. 3. Blue - he'd be 2nd but I think he went a little UTR post merge which may have meant his social game with Johto suffered. 4. Bugsy - again, apart from Morty, the Johto I connected with most post merge. Also clearly had most of Johto eating out of his hand. 5. Brock - I thought his social game was pretty good with me, and we connected rather well, but by all accounts it was lacking with other Kanto members, so he drops to 5th 6. Pryce - again, didn't speak much but his PMs had enough substance to hold a decent conversation 7. Janine - lol girl, one line PMs are just not the way to my heart, sorry Plus the banter with Johto in the Lobby wouldn't have made her the most popular player with them.8. Chuck - we never really spoke... |
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| Sabrina | Sep 26 2013, 02:11 PM Post #56 |
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Morty, I will answer the rest of your question, as well as Janine's after I finish work in a few hours. I really should have closed the Saffron Gym today
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| Pryce | Sep 26 2013, 02:17 PM Post #57 |
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Hey guys! Long time, no talk! We've got an impressive set of players in this final 3. In fact, I think we can all agree that this whole game's cast was pretty amazing.![]() You've all worked your butts off to make it here, and you should be proud. A lot has been said and asked already, so without further ado, I'll get to the meat of this post: Blaine: I thought you were great. You were the first and only person to move from Kanto to Johto, and I enjoyed having you around. As a fellow Pokemon fan, you were good to chat with, and you seemed like you really wanted to get along with us. I took an immediate liking to you, but not everyone on Johto was feeling so accepting. It wasn't long before there was a push to vote you out, and although I wanted to keep you, a split vote wasn't what I wanted at that point either. So, out you went. Your boot was significant though, because it exposed a rift within Johto. You weren't voted out unanimously, and I received votes. At that point, Bugsy came to me. I told him that I didn't want to rock the Johto boat, and he laughed. Forget rocking it, Bugsy wanted to capsize it. Jasmine's hold over the tribe had become clear, and we had to strike back at her, with Clair (her friend) being the target. A plan for a blindside was hatched, and I decided that I wanted to be a part of it. That vote changed everything. Clair went out, and both Jasmine and Morty were shaken. Suddenly, they were in trouble. After that, I watched your progess over at Kanto with interest. When the merge came, you were the number one Kanto player that I wanted to work with, and the others seemed to feel the same. You seemed like you were up for it, but despite some promising signs, you eventually stuck with Kanto. It was probably a smart move, but I was still a little disappointed nonetheless. After I went out, you became one of my favourite players as I saw your game improve. You pushed and pushed until you finally made it here. Congrats on making the final 3! Out of the 3 finalists, I'd say that your playing style is the most like my own, and I respect that. You've worked hard, and you overcame a few duels to make it here. I wish you good luck with winning the game! Sabrina: Hey Sabrina. You come across as the most UTR of the final 3, but you played a strong game nonetheless. I didn't pay too much attention to you pre-merge, you seemed like you'd simply cruise through it, and you did. I never got to speak with you as much as I would have liked. I felt as though there was some good potential for us to work together. You came across as a cautious, yet friendly player, and I liked that. You were open to the idea of being friends, which I really appreciated, but in the end it seems that it was too early for it to happen. My hopes for you to vote with me after the merge were dashed, you were playing it safe. I like the fact that you chose me as Cubone when you answered Brock's question. It's accurate. We were both being careful, I think, not wanting to reveal too much of ourselves. You did a good job of making it to the final 3, and it's clear to me that your strategic game was a good one. I only have to look at what others have said about you to see that you were a surprisingly strong presence in this game, one that was well respected. I wish you good luck with winning the game! Surge: I'm not going to pretend that I like you, because I don't. Your hyper aggressiveness rubbed me the wrong way from the start, and you quickly seemed to be painting a target on your back. At the start of the merge, I was in a good position in Johto, but my position in the overall game wasn't quite as strong. I expected that Bugsy would be the first person that the Kanto gang would target, and when I eventually discovered that it was me instead, I tried to convince people that they should vote with me instead of against me. Unfortunately, my ties with them proved to be too weak to make anything happen, and I was forced to play defensively. Knowing that I was going into the Stadium, I also knew that I had some power to choose who my opponent would be. I knew that my allies wanted to vote for you, and I was willing to go along with it. Then I received that PM from you, where you basically said "Hey Pryce! I'm going to kill you in the Stadium tonight! :)", and I started considering changing the vote to Misty instead. Morty was willing to do it, and I was open about it to Misty, but I liked her more than you. So, I decided to simply be strong and call your bluff. I just want to say this: This game wasn't a good indicator of my challenge strength, that particular challenge just tripped me up. I was actually feeling reasonably confident when I went into the Stadium, but in the end, I fell flat on my face. You were acting all cocky after that, so I wasn't too happy, but I didn't really hold my elimination against you too much.When you go and say things like this:
Then it reminds me that you're not a complete asshole, and I like that. As I said to Sabrina after the merge, I was doing the opposite of you, trying to keep a low profile on the boards. I wanted to avoid doing anything that would draw negative attention to me. It seemed to work pretty well, nobody ever had a particularly solid reason for getting rid of me. In the end, it was simply my challenge skills (rather than my social ones) that decided whether I was successful in this game or not. If I had beaten you, then I definitely feel like I could have gone much further. Even though it's not my style, you've played a strong game where you fortunately had the skills to back up your aggression. Well done on making it to the final 3, there were times where I wasn't sure that you'd get here. I wish you good luck with winning the game! Now, my question for all of you: How differently do you think the game would have turned out if Whitney and Falkner hadn't been removed? For me, Whitney's removal was certainly a blow, I suddenly had one less friend in the game. |
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| Blaine | Sep 26 2013, 02:28 PM Post #58 |
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Yeah, I know we weren't close Janine. By the time I had come around on you, it was too late, you were tight with Surge and I when I tried to approach you to make amends and start working together as opposed to just being allies of an ally...I still got the short PM replies. I think you literally replied to that message saying 'okay, we are now allies' and that wasn't enough for me to trust you. I love Breaking Bad, so this is a fun question! I'd say I'm most like Todd (without being a murderer). Dude is pretty emotionless most of the time which I think I struggle with in these games. I was never in true 'control' but I made moves of my own, some of which worked and some that didn't. I don't want to get too spoilery but I think this relates to Todd quite well. The Americans should definitely join the site. Free coupons for Outback hats provided with registration. ![]() My favourite colour is purple. |
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| Blaine | Sep 26 2013, 03:00 PM Post #59 |
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Thanks Pryce ![]() I did think I was doing well on Johto, so it's reassuring to know that my boot was mainly attributed to the one person who I didn't have much contact with. I hope Morty doesn't hate me for saying this...but I'm glad forcing me out backfired and resulted in her being a pre-merge boot! :lol: I've answered this a little with Bugsy, but I'll go more into detail here. The game would have been completely different. I mean, you can say that with anything right? One different move changes everything. If Whitney had stayed, though, I think we would have ended up with a completely different F7. ![]() Coming into the merge the only Kanto members I had any real loyalty to were Sabrina and Blue. On the other hand, I felt I had solid relationships with all of the Johto members bar Chuck. Bugsy came to me with a plan to split the vote 4-4-4 in the first round of the merge. As long as I knew which way Misty/Blue/Surge/Janine were voting (which I would have), we would have known how to proceed. I really think it would have worked, and I would have been completely onboard. I think I could have convinced Sabrina to join me, as well. Let's say that would have worked, and Surge beat Janine in the duel. From there I probably would have wanted to target Chuck, while Johto voted for Surge again. Regardless of which of them wins, it's a good result for me. Basically...I think you (and the rest of Johto) would have gone farther had Whitney not been removed. ![]() Hope that helps dude
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| Bugsy | Sep 26 2013, 03:13 PM Post #60 |
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Thank you finalists! IDK if this was just me but most of you, well Sabrina and Blaine seemed apologetic for saying that you would have gone back to Kanto if the vote at the F9 went correctly, I wasn't expecting a full swap from either of you guys! No worries there. Best of luck to everyone! Great games all around. :bugsy |
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I'll start off with an explanation for all of my votes:
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