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Topic Started: May 9 2014, 11:35 AM (1,391 Views)
Flannery
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I just walked in the "Hoenn 5 Vote" thread and took a sharp u-turn right out of there. What a load of steaming bullshit. I literally can't.
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Flannery,May 17 2014
01:50:08 PM
Winona,May 17 2014
11:24:46 AM
So what the fuck happened to the Hoenn ho's? Self destruction seemed preventable.

Apparently me, May, and Wallace were too American so they voted us out? Idk. They thought we were really close (we were, so good move I guess) but it was never going to last. Siding with boring shits like Norman, Dawn, and Wattson is ALWAYS a bad move when you have crazies that will inevitably self-destruct. This "let's all self-vote!" is a load of horse shit lol.

Its like they were all too self-righteous about their amazing alliance to vote for each other? That is some bullshit if you ask me. I would never have done that.

It's like saying "oh we're SUCH a good alliance that none of us want to turn on each other! Like we are SO much better than any other alliance because we are doing this!" I'm probably wrong and they will never admit it, but if you have to prove that you are too good of an alliance to turn on each other, you must know deep down that you suck. :)

I don't buy it at ALL but props to all of them for drinking the kool aid. :)

Flannery you know I am American as well right?
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Flannery I never said anything about you being American, I think? Just on different times. But yeah, as you've said the three of you were close, that was the point I was making. I didn't feel I could compete with that when we weren't online together very often.

I can't speak for the others, but for me the rocks were a product of my emotional state at the time. After continually voting off people I genuinely liked, I just couldn't take it any longer. I wish I could have been gamebotty and heartless as I have been before, but I actually cared this time. It was my biggest flaw. I seriously need a break from ORGs for a while because it has messed with my head.
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Norman vs Lucas! Obviously I am hoping for a Norman win :lol: Hoenn is screwed if he loses. Then again Lucas shouldn't exactly be loyal to Sinnoh after being voted off twice! He should pull a Volkner and turn against Sinnoh. What's everyone else hoping for?
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Roxanne,May 18 2014
10:35:23 PM
Norman vs Lucas! Obviously I am hoping for a Norman win :lol: Hoenn is screwed if he loses. Then again Lucas shouldn't exactly be loyal to Sinnoh after being voted off twice! He should pull a Volkner and turn against Sinnoh. What's everyone else hoping for?

Okay so I don't mean for this post to sound snarky and mean especially after out catifight the other day (I left this board for like a day to cool down lol) but what is it that you see in Norman? I'm just curious haha. I also wish that you would have told me that you liked him because I would have been open to it. I didn't like him at first because his PMs were painful to respond to, but after I yelled at him to stop sucking, he was better to talk to and was pretty reasonable, but it was still like pulling teeth. Like he was someone you REALLY had to keep at. But yeah I'm not trying to bash you liking him (I wasn't overly fond of him but if I knew you liked him, I think things would have been WAYYYYY different for Hoenn), but I'm just curious as to what you saw in him haha.

Also, girl, Hoenn has been screwed since I left. I was so angry about being voted out that all of Sinnoh got an earful of everything I had to say. I mean maybe they didn't believe me, but a lot of the players played VERY similar to me and were just as repulsed as I was by the likes of Wattson and Volkner (no need to explain why you like him, I get it, but he was very very wishy washy in our group and all over the place and always played the victim card, and he told me everything about why he left Sinnoh twice and it makes so much sense. He was nice and sweet to talk to after it was all said and done, but he wasn't innocent on Sinnoh haha). But yeah, my point is that most of Sinnoh was not going to work with an alliance that chose Volkner over so many other players. :P

Also DAMN am I kicking myself for not really going after Wattson that round with you. May said that you approached her about voting him out or something like that, but she said it felt diingenuine. I think that was maybe just your short and curt style of communicating (I mean no offense by that, it was effective, but I think players like May and I read into it differently). But May (or Brendan, I really forget tbh) suggested we go after Norman and that, doubled with May thinking you were just trying to get her to go against Wattson and land herself as the target, it kind of sucks knowing that that was what sealed my fate. :P

But yeah honestly Roxanne, everything behind us, I WAS very close with May and Wallace, but I was not loyal to them to the end. My intent was to have that with you because I knew how much of a target I would end up being (along with May and Walalce) so I wanted to be with you more. :( I had hoped that we could have us four, and then throw Brendan in there too, and if you had spoken up about your feelings for Norman, I would have let that happen too haha. But I get why you didn't because I was so vocal with my hatred for him. :P
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Also Wattson is still horrible, but I TOTALLY respect his choice to vote out Norman. Idk why he went for Norman though, when Volkner has an immunity ball? I just still think that the "let's go to rocks for each other!" is really not smart.
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Flannery,May 19 2014
05:09:58 AM
Also Wattson is still horrible, but I TOTALLY respect his choice to vote out Norman. Idk why he went for Norman though, when Volkner has an immunity ball? I just still think that the "let's go to rocks for each other!" is really not smart.

You never let me know!!! When you talked to Sinnoh!! :wake

I also LOVE that Wattson didn't self vote and took the reigns!!

I am pulling for Norman to win for obvious reasons!! I can't tell if Lucas is being sarcastic or not in his "this is shocking" HAHAHA but i hope he legitimately thought he was safe!!
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OMG the hypocriticalness of Lucas in that thread is crazy!!! Get him Fantina HAHAHA be the boss!!

Lucas is so fuckin stupid though, they all are, I would never have worked with her again because she broke my trust so hard, but they decided to cast me aside. Byron too! Good on her for fooling them, they all deserve it!!
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Though I hate Roark HAHAHA how did the apple fall so far from the tree By!!
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Flannery!! You're speaking to me and you don't seem to hate me (as much)! I'm so happy :<3

Norman was someone who I didn't actually intend to be aligned with. You were my top ally at the beginning, and I was happy with you, me, May and Wallace. But I still was nice to Norman. When Dawn came I thought it would be a good idea to get in good with her, and because Norman was in her secret group I thought it would be easiest if he was in on it too. So that made us a little closer. Then because we were on during the whole day together when everyone else would just pop in and out, we ended up talking loads. He would basically tell me everything anyone said to him and all his ideas on what would be best for the two of us. So I was like, wow, this guy is really loyal to me. I need to rethink what I'm doing to fit him in. You, May and Wallace kept telling me how much you didn't like him, so I thought he could be really useful to me. He could be the guy who tells me everything that's going on and then is also my shield if things go bad, because everyone would vote him off before me. And yeah, the rest of you made it so clear that you wanted him out soon that I didn't want to tell any of you how I really felt, so I just hid it and did my best to make you guys choose other people to vote off instead.

Haha it was pretty clear you said lots to Sinnoh. Maylene and Candice seemed to know what was up with our tribe in our secret group thread. I wouldn't say we were screwed though- if I hadn't lose that duel it could've been so good, because people would've thought I would go against Hoenn in a heartbeat, when I wouldn't have. Maylene approached me straight away to work with her, Candice and Gardenia. Ugh, so annoying. What exactly did you say to Sinnoh? Was your hatred reserved for the boys or did I get some too?

Also, since you seem to know, what did Volkner do over there that made him so hated? I was so paranoid about it at one point, thinking he was so nice to me but clearly he'd done something over at Sinnoh and maybe I was just being played like a fool. I don't even know! I'll be so sad if he was playing me though, I loved that guy. Although considering the rocks I don't think he was. I bet he's piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissed at Wattson right now. :lol: I don't blame Wattson though, if I'd been in a better head space I wouldn't have done it either. It all started when I felt so horrible about voting you out, and I ended up feeling sick to my stomach all week with having to betray people again and again.

I really couldn't figure out why May wasn't on board with the plan to get out Wattson! I figured she would jump at it because it would bring her closer to the Pokeballs. The fact that she wouldn't listen to me made me really believe that I was on the outs with you guys like I had been worried about for a while. I know it could be how I communicate like you said (it's funny how I'm so short in PMs considering how long my entries are in here :D), but I think you guys may have also been influenced by the fact that he was my secret partner, thinking I couldn't seriously want to get rid of him. When it was actually a huge part of why I wanted him gone. This game would be so different if she had just said yes.

Also, I just want you to know you were my favourite :<3 I said in the first PM I sent you to you that I loved you already, and I did! I didn't choose Norman because I liked him more, I chose him because after you didn't tell me about switching votes to Norman, I felt I could trust him more than you :( That round was such a mess.
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Roxanne,May 19 2014
09:55:16 AM
Also, since you seem to know, what did Volkner do over there that made him so hated?

The explanation I got HAHAHA was that Volkner was dipping his body into too many oceans!!

Take all of this with a grain of sand HAHAHA but, first night he was apparently in a 6 man alliance of Fantina/Roark/Gardenia/Maylene/Candice/Himself.

This leaves, Me/Byron/Lucas/Dawn!!

Then apparently, he formed another alliance with a bunch of the same people, but he included Lucas too!! Some of the originals were excluded though, I wish I remember the specifics but alas I cannot!!

Plus, he was my groupmate, and I considered him an ally and considered Byron an ally, he reciprocated those feelings to me at least!! We made a 6 of Maylene/Fantina/Roark/Myself/Volkner/Byron!!

So he basically told everyone he was their best friend!! I don't know how true this all is, but it is what I heard!! I know of the first and 3rd alliance, and knew he also made one with Lucas but I am unsure of who is all in that one!!

This is why I was so gung ho on the pokeballs too!! Because it was supposed to be Lucas out after Dawn!! Then it would be Gardenia, and then it would be one of Candice or Maylene!! So I thought I legimately had them in the bag because everyone was close with Volkner, but Crasher was played the fool!
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Crasher Wake,May 19 2014
08:01:19 AM
Flannery,May 19 2014
05:09:58 AM
Also Wattson is still horrible, but I TOTALLY respect his choice to vote out Norman. Idk why he went for Norman though, when Volkner has an immunity ball? I just still think that the "let's go to rocks for each other!" is really not smart.

You never let me know!!! When you talked to Sinnoh!! :wake

I also LOVE that Wattson didn't self vote and took the reigns!!

I am pulling for Norman to win for obvious reasons!! I can't tell if Lucas is being sarcastic or not in his "this is shocking" HAHAHA but i hope he legitimately thought he was safe!!

Haha come on now Crash. I knew I was gone again.

I'm glad to see you still hate me :P

Look. We never clicked. We can pretend we did but we didn't. You're nice and obvs told the truth more than I thought you did but that's how things go.

You may have a hard-on for Fantina but I hate the fact she took the fun out of this game for me. She got her reinforcements in and she got them to do her bidding and started the boring, methodical boot order. Ugh.

I had fun trying to run her game into the ground though. Hopefully it had some sort of effect.


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Got to wonder whether that was really Norman's random result :lol: Go Wattson!! I would like to see what he does with a merged tribe.

Also :D at V using his immunity. Sinnoh is probably crumbling but I wouldn't have been surprised if they had banded together to get him out. Very happy he is safe for one round at least :<3
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Roxanne,May 19 2014
09:55:16 AM
Flannery!! You're speaking to me and you don't seem to hate me (as much)! I'm so happy :<3

Norman was someone who I didn't actually intend to be aligned with. You were my top ally at the beginning, and I was happy with you, me, May and Wallace. But I still was nice to Norman. When Dawn came I thought it would be a good idea to get in good with her, and because Norman was in her secret group I thought it would be easiest if he was in on it too. So that made us a little closer. Then because we were on during the whole day together when everyone else would just pop in and out, we ended up talking loads. He would basically tell me everything anyone said to him and all his ideas on what would be best for the two of us. So I was like, wow, this guy is really loyal to me. I need to rethink what I'm doing to fit him in. You, May and Wallace kept telling me how much you didn't like him, so I thought he could be really useful to me. He could be the guy who tells me everything that's going on and then is also my shield if things go bad, because everyone would vote him off before me. And yeah, the rest of you made it so clear that you wanted him out soon that I didn't want to tell any of you how I really felt, so I just hid it and did my best to make you guys choose other people to vote off instead.

Haha it was pretty clear you said lots to Sinnoh. Maylene and Candice seemed to know what was up with our tribe in our secret group thread. I wouldn't say we were screwed though- if I hadn't lose that duel it could've been so good, because people would've thought I would go against Hoenn in a heartbeat, when I wouldn't have. Maylene approached me straight away to work with her, Candice and Gardenia. Ugh, so annoying. What exactly did you say to Sinnoh? Was your hatred reserved for the boys or did I get some too?

Also, since you seem to know, what did Volkner do over there that made him so hated? I was so paranoid about it at one point, thinking he was so nice to me but clearly he'd done something over at Sinnoh and maybe I was just being played like a fool. I don't even know! I'll be so sad if he was playing me though, I loved that guy. Although considering the rocks I don't think he was. I bet he's piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissed at Wattson right now. :lol: I don't blame Wattson though, if I'd been in a better head space I wouldn't have done it either. It all started when I felt so horrible about voting you out, and I ended up feeling sick to my stomach all week with having to betray people again and again.

I really couldn't figure out why May wasn't on board with the plan to get out Wattson! I figured she would jump at it because it would bring her closer to the Pokeballs. The fact that she wouldn't listen to me made me really believe that I was on the outs with you guys like I had been worried about for a while. I know it could be how I communicate like you said (it's funny how I'm so short in PMs considering how long my entries are in here :D), but I think you guys may have also been influenced by the fact that he was my secret partner, thinking I couldn't seriously want to get rid of him. When it was actually a huge part of why I wanted him gone. This game would be so different if she had just said yes.

Also, I just want you to know you were my favourite :<3 I said in the first PM I sent you to you that I loved you already, and I did! I didn't choose Norman because I liked him more, I chose him because after you didn't tell me about switching votes to Norman, I felt I could trust him more than you :( That round was such a mess.

Wow this is so juicy :<3 I love it! Our messages were great in this game, but if they had been THIS long I don't think there would have ever been any question about our friendship, like ever! :<3 luh u gurl :<3

And that makes 100% sense about Norman. Damn girl you were a smart player. I'm really hating that it had to be you that got rocked out because you deserve this so much more than them. :( I cannot hate that you ended up allying with him. I didn't even mind him by the time I left and I should have jsut swallowed my pride and talked to you more, but clearly I am bad at doing that :lol:

As for what I told Sinnoh, I can't remember WHO I talked to, but I think I talked to almost everyone but Crasher Wake because EVERYONE told me he was going first? But yes, you got VERY LITTLE of my hatred. It was mostly "Wattson is the worst creature alive" and "You guys all know how shitty Volkner is so I can't even talk about that" and "Norman is barely here and is just SO HARD to talk to" and thus I named you guys the Shit Alliance. :lol: Mostly all I said about you was that "we were cose but she chose the shitty people over me for some reason" so yeah I think you would have been fine, which I guess is really smart? I think you got yourself to a point where you wouldn't have won the game, but you would have gone MUCH farther than anyone else in your alliance so mad respect to that! :<3

As for Volkner, he sent me a message owning up to what he did on Sinnoh and it was really shady and confusing to me. Like I get why they don't like him. But he probably just needed a fresh start on Hoenn, but I think he just got too cocky with it. Oh well.

And May just thought you were trying to sell her out as against Wattson because Brendan made it sound like you/Norman/Wattson were inseparable. So I guess the combo of listening to Brendan/May over you sealed my fate, but I mean, it's hard not to trust the people that are trying to "save" you over someone who has a 50% chance of writing your name down, so it was just a really really unfortunate series of misunderstandings. :( If I had stayed, you can bet your ass I would have gone for Wattson first. And then Volkner. Or the other way around. I think Hoenn could have been a lot more unified and whatnot, but yeah.

Another question: if I had won the duel and returned, what would have happened? I know that Brendan was always a target, but if I returned, could things have been swayed to Wattson, or was the damage done with no hope of changing it?
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Roxanne,May 19 2014
10:24:21 PM
Got to wonder whether that was really Norman's random result :lol: Go Wattson!! I would like to see what he does with a merged tribe.

Also :D at V using his immunity. Sinnoh is probably crumbling but I wouldn't have been surprised if they had banded together to get him out. Very happy he is safe for one round at least :<3

Haha Norman definitely targeted Wattson :<3 How sneaky :<3
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