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| Final Tribal Council; Dawn vs Gardenia vs Wallace! | |
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| Dawn | Jun 2 2014, 01:32 AM Post #31 |
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The evidence of what was said to you C'mon I would not change my plan that night in two PMs if I hadn't SERIOUSLY had a super-deep think about it already!!
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| Professor Oak | Jun 2 2014, 01:32 AM Post #32 |
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And now taking to the stage shall be: The Alluring, Soulful Dancer!
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| Fantina | Jun 2 2014, 01:33 AM Post #33 |
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Allô! |
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| Fantina | Jun 2 2014, 01:34 AM Post #34 |
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Is zis where I post, 'ow do you say, eet?
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| Professor Oak | Jun 2 2014, 01:35 AM Post #35 |
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It is indeed!
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| Fantina | Jun 2 2014, 01:36 AM Post #36 |
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Oh merçi. You people do things so much different from Kalos.
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| Fantina | Jun 2 2014, 01:36 AM Post #37 |
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Well done to ze trois of you. You are all special in your own way, and you should all be proud of making it to ze end, which we all were unable to do. ![]() At first, I was not going to ask any questions, and instead ask of you to come up with ze most creative insults for Wattson and Candice, but I actually 'ave things I need to 'ave clarified, so I figure I will ask away. Wallace, I'm going to start with vous, because it's ze shortest of the three, somewhat like your messages after May landed on Sinnoh. I am not even interested in 'earing what you 'ave to say about why you voted me out, because I've 'eard enough about it over ze last period of time, and frankly, it's done to death and when you realize what actually went on from zat point on in ze game, you'll realize that was the minute you threw ze game away. What I do want to know from you is 'ow exactly you planned on winning zis game against anyone? Because it seems like all of your plans were to get to ze end with people 'oo played stronger games zan you, were better liked zan you, and would deserve to win more zan you. Were you ultimately just planning on being a goat in zis game? That's all I need to know, because the odds of you getting my vote right now are less zan Candice not being a vapid cunt. Gardenia, let's chat 'ere. First things first, ma chérie, you were not secretly flipping whatsoever. It was obvious and transparent and when you tried to chalk up 'miscommunication' to your move, it became even more so. I would not be talking ze fact that you were fooling anyone at zat point as a positive, because if anyone bought it, which as far as I can tell, zey really didn't, it's more on their own stupidity. BUT, and zis is a massive but, like Maylene's, I 'ave been exceptionally impressed with 'ow you played zis game, and I do mean zat sincerely. To moi, you 'ave played ze best strategic game by far, but I think Dawn surpasses you in ze social aspect of it. But watching you play, and 'aving people not actually understand 'ow 'ard and fantastic you were playing until ze jury was AMAZING, because I 'ad been one of those people 'oo thought you were just borderline inactive and not doing a damn thing, and you proved moi wrong. ![]() I 'ave a couple of things I need to ask you: #1. Which do you value more and which is more important - social game or strategy? #2. Please tell moi your 3 best moves you made in zis game that YOU made that relied on nobody else, and was a move that benefited your position more zan any other. #3. Did you honestly think people bought your stories about 'messing up' the vote? :lol: #4. Tell me why I should ONLY consider voting for you and not Dawn. #5. What was your ideal F3 scenario, and 'ow did you see ze votes falling? I'm curious to see your perception of ze jury. Great job, Gardenia, and I wish you ze best. ![]() Dawn Even thought we 'ardly 'ad a chance to talk, you were one of my cute favourites in zis, which was 'ilarious because we were unspoken rivals during ze pre-merge just for some illustrious air-time. I consider you more zan anything the biggest star of ze game both in ze F3, but probablement in ze entire game. I do not 'ave a single bad thing to say about you! Which makes you really a large contender for mon vote at zis point, because nothing impresses me more zan a sweetheart who gets herself to ze end after being voted out first. And I think that's a massive compliment to your social game - I don't think anyone 'as ever talked about you in a negative light once in zis game, ever. And you were such an OBVIOUS jury threat but people were still willing to let you get further and let you make it far with numbers zat I was always just so confused, but clearly you were doing something right. Mon opinion is zat you focused more socially zan strategically - and I need you to prove me wrong, zat you were playing as 'ard as Gardenia was and made as many pertinent moves zat benefited yourself in order to advance your position in zis game. So tell me what you did and WHY it benefited you more zan anyone else, and why you deserve to win for those moves. I also want to know your ideal F3 and ze jury breakdown, to see what your perception of us was, and also why I need to only consider voting for YOU and not Gardenia. Good luck ladies. It 'as been an amazing game.
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| Gardenia | Jun 2 2014, 01:37 AM Post #38 |
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Then why say we "absolutely have to vote for Wally or May"? You must have at least had a preference for not voting for Maylene, even if it was something you had considered? |
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| Dawn | Jun 2 2014, 01:44 AM Post #39 |
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ABSOLUTELY is just all part of the super-awesome lingo I've got going As much as I love you I trusted Mr Wattson more and if you were set on Maylene then Mr Wattson and I could still make the call either way with our two votes. I don't think it's at all fair to say I was manipulated into voting the way you wanted that night ![]() Fantina, thanks for the comments. I'm super-pooped right now and have to get up in a few hours. ![]() I promise I will get back and answer your questions ASAP!! |
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| Professor Oak | Jun 2 2014, 02:03 AM Post #40 |
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And now I will introduce: Roark the Rock!
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| Roark | Jun 2 2014, 02:04 AM Post #41 |
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[align=center]![]() Hey, Final Three! Congratulations on making it to the very end, guy and girls This was definitely a crazy fun experience for me, I hope you feel the same way no matter if you win or lose. Let's go in alphabetical order. !DAWN! You're probably the person who I got to know the least out of this Final Three, but don't despair! I think that your journey from first boot to Final Three is just an amazing storyline! You were a pretty nice girl, too, it's just that we never had any reason to talk other than for fluff! Don't worry too much about this part being so tiny, please. To cut to the chase, I just really want to know a bit more about what you thought about others since I never really learned too much about your perspective. There's your speech for me to look at but I don't think you'd have answered this there. So, I would like you to say a nice thing and a bad thing about everyone who made Jury. You know, something you liked about them and something you disliked. Thanks in advance! !GARDENIA! Gardenia! Nice seeing you again. I have to say that I underestimated you for the first three rounds of the game? But when you were scrambling like crazy during the fourth round it was obvious that you were a sharp girl :lol: Maybe I should have acted on that, but to your credit you were able to keep on slipping by and do better than I (or like I said, everyone) expected initially. Kudos to you for the game you have played! Now, I do have something negative to say about your game. It's that you were honestly terrible at lying! I told you I'd try my best to be honest with you, and I think you said the same thing in return (I sorta forget so correct me if I'm wrong) but you seemed to be never honest with me after that. I didn't believe you for a second when you said you didn't try to work with Lucas/Byron to get Fantina out. So, you lying then was just weird since it seemed both unnecessary as I already knew the truth and a bad lie in general. Equally terrible (if not worse) was "Miscommunication." That was really funny, though. I lied to you too, so I get why you would want to lie to me right back as we both saw that we were on opposing sides. And I know that this doesn't really matter much since your lies never wrecked your game, but humor me. I want you to talk about your best lies. That above part may sound a bit harsh, but I think you are a smart girl and I want to know when you really fooled people! !WALLACE! Wallace, Wallace, Wallace! I'll start off nicely by saying that you were good to talk to. You made it easy to want to work with you to overthrow the other side of the Sinnoh region. We were able to get a good amount of chatter in, and I only saw the opportunity for our bond to get stronger when May joined up! I was really excited about it, even though I knew that you two were probably concerned about the extremely awesome Top Right Trio overpowering you two The problem I have with you is that you seemed to have up and vanished due to weather problems starting around the time of the Merge. This made getting anywhere with you personally into being literally impossible. ;_; It also made me think of you as little more than someone who was being dragged by May. She was definitely mega visible with those massive messages I had with her, compared to you being invisible. Now, I was going to ask you something but after seeing what Maylene has asked you the answer to her should suffice. I don't really have any other questions for you, so you're off the hook a bit. You can respond to what I said about you if you want. I know you have said that you were busy and I understand that, it's just hard for me to want to vote for you over these two ladies. !ALL THREE! Hey! Remember that emoticon message I left you? Tell me what you think I was saying to you in that one little emote! :lol: for Dawn, for Gardenia, and for Wallace if you need a refresher. This will be considered in my decision as to who to vote for, so don't shrug this part off.That's all, hope you don't mind those two questions. Good Luck![/align] |
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| Gardenia | Jun 2 2014, 02:14 AM Post #42 |
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Thanks for the question, Norman. I do wish we had had more of a chance to speak in the game. Crasher Wake ![]() Crasher Wake (or Crasher... or Wake... we never knew what to call him and used the different names interchangeably) was a really boisterous character. He was constantly laughing like HAHAHA in the middle of every sentence to the point that it got on some people's nerves, and he loved using water-themed puns. When he was voted out he sung a song/poem about himself so that basically sums him up. In terms of how he played I got the sense that he was very loyal to his original alliance, perhaps to his own detriment. Byron ![]() Byron was given the nickname Bi-ron, which was either something Candice just came up with or was due to the way he flirted with just about anybody. He wasn't afraid to stir things up or spread lies, but he was ultimately a really friendly guy. Lucas ![]() Lucas was awesome. His signature said "Fabulous, flamboyant, and fierce" and that he was. He loved his allies and disliked his enemies with equal passion, going so far as starting a hate/call-out thread for Fantina... He was really enthusiastic about the game and was devastated to have not made the merge. Candice ![]() I think, and hope, that you've been able to see what Candice is like for yourself on the jury. She was a ray of sunshine in the game and always had me laughing. She was well known on Sinnoh for wanting to do whatever was the most fun, prioritising that over what was easiest or most strategic. When things turned against Candice, Lucas, and I, Candice was quite down because her ability to have fun was being stifled. It was sad to see. If she had made it further into the post-merge I have no doubt the game would have been completely different. Volkner ![]() You know Volkner well from your time together on Hoenn, so I'll just give a brief summary of how he was on Sinnoh. I found Volkner to be really charming calling me his ladybro and always being engaging in PMs. I probably spoke to him more than anyone in the first couple of rounds. He got caught (or maybe was set up, since he never admitted to it) as having multiple conflicting alliances which was the reason given for his being voted into the Arena, so he was playing hard from the start. Fantina ![]() I saw a number of different sides to Fantina. She was intimidating, hilarious, angry, sweet, the list goes on. From my perspective, Fantina was controlling Sinnoh for the majority of the pre-merge. There's no denying she's a fantastic, and at times polarising, player. Roark ![]() Despite never really working together properly, Roark was one of my favourite people to talk to on Sinnoh. He is just simply a really nice, smart, and engaging guy. He played a great game too. Maylene ![]() Maylene was always very forthcoming and honest, which I really appreciated on both a game and a personal level. There was no bullshit in anything she said. Maylene was probably the most competitive person in the game - her drive and enthusiasm was palpable. She was really social from the beginning and it served her well throughout the game. Dawn ![]() I only spent one round with Dawn on Sinnoh, but I remember finding her to be very sweet and, well, cute in the way she spoke. She clearly went on to bigger and better things after she left Sinnoh! |
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| Gardenia | Jun 2 2014, 03:06 AM Post #43 |
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Hi Fantina! I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by your comments towards me. We had a relationship of ups and downs and I never quite knew for sure where I stood with you, so thank you for the compliments ![]() I've realised during this Final Tribal Council that my "secret flip" wasn't as secret as I thought it was, and that's fine. I'm have no problem admitting that I wasn't quite as sneaky or successful as I thought I was regarding that particular move. I would, however, guess that it was more or less a secret at the F10 vote, but that the F9 vote is where it became obvious? To answer your questions: #1. It goes without saying that both the social game and the strategic game are important, but if I had to pick one as being more important or of greater value I would choose the social game. The reason for this is that you can get to the end with strategy, but if you have played a poor social game then you shouldn't expect the jury to vote for you to win. Conversely, if you stumble your way to the end without strategy, but with excellent relationships with the other players, you may just win. I wasn't able to play as socially as I would have ideally liked to, given time constraints, and most of my conversations with people were about the game itself, but I did make a point to leave no PM unanswered. #2. Singling out moves that I made that didn't rely on anybody else is difficult, given the nature of the game, but I'll give it a go. The first that comes to mind was at the F9 vote. It was me, and me alone, who changed the outcome from 3-3-3 into 4-3-2. The second move was deciding to return to Sinnoh after my first battle. It was tempting to go to Hoenn after seeing what had happened to Volkner, but I decided to take a chance on the relationships I had already formed on Sinnoh instead of starting fresh on Hoenn. The third was putting in more of an effort with you after returning from the Arena, in terms of talking more, getting to know you, and giving you a chance to get to know me. I no longer let our timezone differences be an excuse and I believe you were a big factor in me not being sent back into battle for the rest of the pre-merge. There was a reason Lucas and Candice were voted off instead of me, and this might have been it. #3. I didn't completely believe it, but I believed I had done enough that there would be some doubt about it. At the following vote I had expected you, Maylene, and Roark to have split your votes 2 for Dawn and 1 for Wattson, but it was 2 for Wattson and 1 for Dawn so I knew then that you hadn't bought it completely :lol: #4. You should vote for me instead of Dawn because I played a bigger part in voting you out. To an outsider, that might sound like a reason why you shouldn't vote for me, but I know that you're someone who would have respect for someone who bested you. I was afraid of you from the beginning of the game. Intimidated is probably the best word for it. I knew you were the one to beat so I did everything in my power to send you packing when the timing was right. I got to you before you got to me, and I think you should reward me for that with your jury vote. #5. I'll take this question from the perspective of the F5 because that was the group I worked towards building from the merge onwards. Of the F5, my ideal F3 scenario was with May and Wallace. First of all I thought that sitting next to two people who had the same (or at least very similar) journeys to the end would make it easier for me to make my case and would allow me to stand out. That is not to say that I think May would have been an easier opponent than Dawn. I actually think May would be quite well received by the jury. Also in the back of my mind were Maylene's comments about how the move at F8 was bad for May and Wallace. Whether or not that was the overall jury perception, it was the perception of one juror and that's valuable information to have. It's never easy to predict how the jury will vote, but I thought if I had my ideal F3 against May and Wallace it would probably be fairly close between me and May. |
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| Fantina | Jun 2 2014, 03:19 AM Post #44 |
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| Gardenia | Jun 2 2014, 03:39 AM Post #45 |
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Nice to see you again too, Roark! ![]() I accept your criticism of my game and I think the points you have made are fair. Maybe it was a case of me having to make a couple of failed attempts before getting my lies to be believable, because I think the best lies I told were those that kept both Wattson/Dawn and May/Wallace believing I was their #3. Given the Arena format, there was no need for me to commit to either side completely. According to Maylene's jury comment earlier, May was asking about me on the jury "are you sure she wasn't on my side?", but here's the thing - I was on May and Wallace's side, I was just also on Wattson and Dawn's side! I lied continuously to those four people from the F8 until the F3. Sure, they may have had inklings that I was playing both sides, but never to the point that they got together and compared stories (at least to my knowledge). This is despite Maylene pointing out my position in her public thread at F6! Maybe I'm once again overstating how effective my lies were here, but as far as I can tell it worked for me.
I do remember your goodbye emoticons! My guess at what you were saying to me with was that you weren't mad with me and that I had exceeded your expectations by making the moves I had made. Is it going too far to say I see a bit of pride in that smirk? Ahaha. Am I even close? :lol: Don't forget to tell me the right answer after the game's over please!
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C'mon I would not change my plan that night in two PMs if I hadn't SERIOUSLY had a super-deep think about it already!!

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As much as I love you I trusted Mr Wattson more and if you were set on Maylene then Mr Wattson and I could still make the call either way with our two votes. I don't think it's at all fair to say I was manipulated into voting the way you wanted that night 


There's your speech for me to look at but I don't think you'd have answered this there. So, I would like you to say a nice thing and a bad thing about everyone who made Jury. You know, something you liked about them and something you disliked. Thanks in advance!
for Wallace if you need a refresher. This will be considered in my decision as to who to vote for, so don't shrug this part off.
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