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Final Tribal Council; Dawn vs Gardenia vs Wallace!
Topic Started: Jun 1 2014, 07:52 PM (1,023 Views)
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Again, probably not the jury-friendliest answer here, but at this point idec. I've gladly would've lost to May had it been the two of us there with someone. For me it's always important to find that one person who I can rely 100% on, and May was it for me... and if I rely on her and she relies on me, then why would I want to throw that away? May on my side was always an asset. Not just strategically. I could always confide in her and I can and will call her my friend after this.


As for the jurymembers:

Norman is the person I'm putting last, but that's probably expected~ The two of us had a rocky relationship.

Candice ran Sinnoh for a good while and although I wasn't a fan, you gotta give props where props are due.

Maylene made the best of a bad situation when the chips were falling down and was usually nice to boot.

Volkner... oh boy :lol: Sometimes I thought you were amazing, but getting screwed over you twice definitely did a number on me and given the hatred that went your way I think this is an adequate spot.

Roark was an underrated social player and I've liked him back from our secret group.

Wattson, man, you took control of Hoenn easily and almost clawed your way out of an impossible situation.

Fantina I think would've deserved to win against anyone had she made it there. She was great to talk to.

May, duh. She was the funnest and funniest person to message for me and her messages used ton of fun even when the content was strategy.
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Hey gurl hey :<3 Ngl, you weren't in my bestest graces either when you pushed the vote onto innocent angel Brawly ;_; But I was always loyal to you and I wouldn't have wanted to play with anyone but you~ :<3 Thank you for the question too, I'll try to answer it to my best of abilities.

Why better than Gardenia

I feel that when it comes down it, Gardenia's game rested more upon me than mine on Gardenia. Her moves wouldn't have panned out hadn't it been for me or May. She needed us. We also needed her to some extent, but not quite to the same degree because we were more facilitated with Sinnoh and were friendly with Hoenn. I think that a lot of her flip-flopping was made available because we decided to flip, and had we not done that she would've been picked off. Like I've said before, the 4-3-2 was in part me (and again, I'm not sure what the entire truth behind that so if someone could clarify~). We gave her numbers, but not on her terms but on ours. Had Gardenia lost the F5 duel, I still would be sitting here trying to make an argument.

She was also someone who was always going to be targeted. Despite claiming to be the "third" to both me/May and Dawn/Wallace her position wasn't rock solid. If she really was, she should've been able to make it to the F3 unscathed. If she really was sitting the prettiest, it could've been done.

Why better than Dawn

I think that no matter the strength of someone, winding up in Arena is not something you want. I *get* that one can be confident enough in their skills to be content with being voted in, but to me that's way too much risk for a very little reward. Prime example of this is what went down on Hoenn once they've all self-voted. Sure, she could win and go back, but what if she loses? Then she's out. She claims that she was able to intimidate us all into not voting her in, and in spite of that she was in Arena more than any of us. It's a fact that she's the most competent challenge-player in this game, and I'm not trying to knock her for that because this is Arena and it's part of the game, but despite being all that, we saw Empoleon a lot.

I also think that the flip that had put her in a great position could be least attributed to her. I don't know the nature of her relationship with Wattson, so for all I know she could've been the brains behind the operation, but to me at least, it just didn't show.

I do think they deserve to be here and would make great winners, so no offense to you girls <3
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Alright guys, I've gotta split. I don't think I'll be back for the winner-reveal and such and I definitely won't be here for any follow-up questions you might have.

I know that my chances are slim, and I know that my game was far from perfect. All I ask from you is that you consider voting for me. All my arguments are out there. At the end of the day I've had heaps of fun in this game and despite all my hardships irl it made the month of May (:ha) fun for me, and I wouldn't want that any other way. I will personally suck each juror off irl who votes for me btw and I'm very conscious of my mouth-hygiene.

Good luck to both girls, and may the odds ever be in your favour!
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07:35:31 AM
Gardenia, you were also an amazing ally in a much different way to Dawn. You were flat out on my level girl and we just clicked immediately. You were my closest ally throughout the whole merge and I considered you my #1 ally right until F5 where I thought it would be best for my game if I got rid of you. Candice and Lucas had both told me before they left the game that you were amazing and were someone that I could definitely work with and have fun at the same time. And we sure had plenty of that. I think within minutes of me winning my battle and coming to the merge tribe we were scheming together and coming up with plans for not only that round but the next round and the round after that. I really enjoy playing the game like that, and you were the person I had the most fun working with in this entire game. I think people got a new respect for your game when people that were voted out were able to share some of the stories on the jury that others weren't privy too that you were involved in throughout the merge. When I left the game I was glad that it was someone that I respected so much that took me out. I think I was the only person in the game at the F5 that saw you as the biggest threat and that is credit to you and your game.

G: You mentioned earlier that your ideal final 3 was with May & Wallace and you said that was your ideal F3 out of the F5 that were left, yet you voted for May at that F5 vote. Why did you cast that vote for May? I've said that getting rid of you at F5 was best for my game, why was getting rid of May at F5 best for your game?

And then if you all get time, could you please rank the jury members on their games. Just a real brief ranking like a few words on how you think they played, how enjoyable they were to play with/against etc.

Thanks for the kind words, Wattson :<3 I really enjoyed playing the game with you too! You were the one who initially made me feel welcome on the Hoenn side - bonding over our love of Candice and very quickly making a pact to look out for each other, which we did until the F5 *ahem*

Good question. That's something I haven't explained yet. At the F5 I had voted for Dawn early on in the round, believing that was who May and Wallace were voting for and knowing that I would have preferred to go to the end with the two of them. My vote remained on Dawn until literally 13 seconds before the 10pm deadline. The reason I changed it to May? Well May sent me a message just a few minutes before Tribal Council saying that you were going to be voting for Dawn so I should keep my vote on Dawn while she and Wallace vote for you, thus sending both you and Dawn into the Arena. I knew that you were lying to May (no way would you be voting for Dawn without telling me) and I didn't believe that May would have fallen for it, so I incorrectly assumed that May and Wallace were voting for me. Why else would they have told me of the change of plan so last minute?! That's what I thought anyway, so in a state of panic I voted the way I thought you and Dawn were voting - for May. It turned out that wasn't how you were voting, but I obviously didn't know that at the time.

I hope that clears that up! I didn't think getting rid of May at F5 was best for my game, but I voted for her because I thought I was being played. It turned out it was the other side who was playing me :lol:

I apologise that my jury ranking will be super brief as I only have about 15 minutes until I have to head out and I still need to get to May's question.

From best game to least best game :P

Wattson - We played together and we played together well. If you had succeeded in taking me out you would be getting my jury vote tonight.

Maylene - Similarly, if Maylene had been able to turn the F6 vote against me I would have had even more respect for her than I already do. She worked all the angles.

Fantina - A dominant force who wasn't afraid to show it. If things had gone slightly differently at F8 I think Fantina is a likely winner.

Roark - Worked mostly from behind the scenes, shielded by Fantina and Maylene. A F3 of Roark, Fantina, and Maylene would have been an incredibly difficult decision for me to make.

May - One challenge away from being in the F3 with a good shot at winning.
Candice - Would be ranked much higher if only she had been able to break through to the post-merge and make her mark on the game.

Volkner - Low on this list, but still high in my opinion. Another case of leaving too early in the post-merge for me to rank higher than the others of whom I was able to get a better grasp on their game play.

Norman - Only because I barely got a chance to see how he played so I don't have much to judge him on.
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10:45:01 AM
GARDENIA - Girl I had no idea you had this much game until I got to the jury!! You know what? I thought you would be the easiest person to beat in the F5, and I was wrong, you were probably the biggest jury threat of them all! I didn't know you had already technically flipped to Hoenn, and while I'm glad to hear that you would have indeed wanted to go to the end with Wallace and I, I totally thought you were riding our coattails!! Reading about your game in the jury house and in this FTC, there was a lot of facets to your game that I never caught on to. Good job!! You are amazing, I absolutely loved working with you, you're a doll!! The big thing that I'm kicking myself on is that I didn't vote for you at the final 4. It would have been you and Dawn in the arena and I'd be sitting in FTC if all I did was vote for you!! But you know what? I felt loyalty to you, and obviously to Wallace, and would have rathered face Dawn in the arena, my game on the line, than to brutally do that to you, even if you were clearly playing both sides the entire time.

I don't have much I want to ask you, Gardenia, I only want to know: Did you only vote for Dawn at 4 because you knew she was voting me? What would you have done if you heard she was voting you?

Wow, I'm really flattered by your analysis of my game, May :<3 :<3 :<3

Thank you for making me feel like less of an idiot for claiming that my flip to Hoenn had been a secret, because it seems I at least kept it a secret from you :D I also think you gave a nice example of a subtler aspect to my game - gaining people's trust - because as you said it would only have taken one of you or Wallace voting for me at F4 for me to have ended up in the battle.

Yes, I knew that Dawn was voting for you. She wanted me to vote for you too, but I didn't because I wanted to prove to you and Wallace that I was loyal to you following my last-minute vote for you at the previous Tribal Council. So yeah I felt pretty confident in the knowledge that you and Wallace were voting for Dawn, and Dawn was voting for you, and my vote wouldn't alter the outcome.

If I had heard that Dawn was voting for me at F4, the only thing I could have done was try everything I could to change her mind. I knew how close you and Wallace were, so there would have been no point in trying to get one of you to turn on the other.
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Unfortunately I need to run now, but I should be back later to follow the results and the cast reveal from my phone.

Thank you all for your thoughtful and entertaining questions. I answered them to the best of my ability and I hope that you will reward the game that I played with your jury vote. Winning the second Pokemon World Tournament would mean so much to me. I had a fantastic experience playing with you all, Wallace and Dawn included.

Thanks also to the hosts for everything you did to bring this game to life and to have it run so smoothly and professionally.

I'll see you all later on tonight :<3
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To close up my time to answer I'll just re-emphasize that I've taken calculated risks in this game to further myself, I've done well in the arena without relying on it constantly, I've swung back from minorities while staying in everyone's good books, and I've made the moves I've needed to make :)

Because nobody asked this, the Pokemon I'd most liken myself to is a Ditto, able to adapt to situations as needed and not scared to fight it out with the fiercest Charizard or hang out with the sweetest Piplup, all the while being as cute as a button ^_^
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Thanks for making this is a fun game and being fun and nice people yourselves. I had a blast!! :)


Love always,
Dawn and Piplup!!
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Just under three hours to go until votes are final :o
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Less than an hour to go! :oak
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