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| Steve | Aug 28 2014, 08:40 AM Post #41 |
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Tom Benson's name is also on Tulane's new field. As we noted on the podcast, we absolutely promise that Tom Benson is not going to approach UNO and suggest they add football so that he can donate millions of dollars to the cause. UNO would have to approach him with an actual, concrete, competent plan first. But he has donated millions to multiple other universities for this sort of thing. |
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| Privateer6 | Aug 28 2014, 08:49 AM Post #42 |
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John Georges has already supported UNO hoops with a good-sized donation. He owns The Advocate now. How would he like college and high school games (being reported in the Times-Picayune!) as being played at The New Orleans Advocate Stadium? ![]() |
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| Bill73 | Aug 28 2014, 10:04 AM Post #43 |
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Is it still a desire of the Arena management to build a stadium they could rent out to the local high schools? Or has demand for that gone away? |
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| Privateer6 | Aug 28 2014, 10:33 AM Post #44 |
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If so, would we want it to be done that way? As I understand it, profits from Lakefront Arena do not end up in the budget of the athletic department. Would we also want to see a football stadium with rental income that also does not profit the athletic department? I don't know how many athletic departments control (and profit from) their own venues, so I don't know if the situation at Lakefront Arena is the exception or the rule or neither. If anyone has any idea, I'd be interested to hear. However, at the link below (FY2013 budget; see page 4, 6), it seems Michigan's athletic department gets the profit from rental of facilities under its control. A golf course was transferred to the athletic department's control, giving it $1.73M/year in extra revenue and $1.6M/year in extra expenditure for a small net profit. They also made over $2M ($2.8M revenue, $0.6M expenditure) for hosting a single outdoor NHL game at their football stadium. The point is, athletics runs those places and earns the profits, if any. Given they're receiving the profits from those two venues, it's not unreasonable to think they make the profit from concerts, etc., at their basketbal arena, but who knows? http://annarborchronicle.com/wp-content/up...1-final-v.2.pdf This 2009 article talks about how universities (and high schools), including Vanderbilt, are renting out their facilities to make money for the athletic department. At Vandy, "In the past year, the gym has also hosted an HBO-televised boxing card, the Southeastern Color Guard Circuit Championships, and even a night of professional wrestling." http://www.athleticmanagement.com/2009/06/..._rent/index.php At UNO, we have all those types of things at Lakefront Arena... but unless things have changed, the benefits do not flow to athletics. If projections show that a small, on-campus football stadium would turn a profit on rentals, it would seem unwise to hand that to arena management rather than to athletics, unless there was no way to get it built otherwise (for instance, if Lakefront Arena has a separate mechanism for borrowing to improve whatever East Campus property is under its control such that they could help get it funded -- given their inability to even get a scoreboard installed for a great period of time, I assume they don't have much financial pull or independence). |
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| secoer | Aug 28 2014, 03:51 PM Post #45 |
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To my knowledge, Maestri Fiedl is rented to high school baseball and athletcs keeps the proceeds from the rental and concessions. The Arena proceeds go to the General Fund. If UNO was to start Football and build a stadium on the east campus, which I would support over building a stadium on the main campus like some proposed, the athletic department should see the proceeds from rental "AFTER" any expenses are paid. The rationale behind having the stadium on the east campus is that we could also charge a fee for parking, but I wouldn't charge a lot. Those proceeds should also go to athletics for any event using the stadium. Of course all events would have to be coordinated and I am sure the Arena and Athletics would have to agree on "shared" event dates, football and concert, as to how the parking arrangements would be handled. I would assume both side could agree to something.......but I hate assuming anything. |
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| Slidell | Sep 7 2014, 03:41 PM Post #46 |
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This is a great article about Tulane football and the effort and finances and sheer will behind the process to build their new stadium. Clearly they are in a different situation than we are - they don't have the state subsidy and budget issues, and their list of prominent donors is very long. But there are so many good points in the article regarding what can happen when a university values athletics in general and football specifically, that I wanted to post the link and highlight a few excerpts. Excerpt 1: The process began on the notion that in order for Tulane’s football program to thrive, a long-term plan was necessary. Months after a controversial 2003 internal review nearly knocked the Green Wave out of Division I athletics and dropped football altogether, Cowen and Tulane Athletic Director Rick Dickson set out on the mission of making Tulane football something capable of sustained success. Excerpt 2: Dickson wanted to illustrate what was possible on Tulane’s small footprint, so he traveled with Cowen, Hertz and Richard Yulman to tour basketball and football facilities at Georgia Tech, Miami, Florida Atlantic and Florida International. By the trip’s conclusion, a decision had to be reached. Excerpt 3: While nearly $20 million is still left to be raised, the 12-year climb from an athletic department twice on the brink of Division I death, to one littered with new facilities and a board of trustees with open checkbooks, is the sea change capable of altering the trajectory of Green Wave sports. http://www.theneworleansadvocate.com/sport...g-right-at-home |
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| NSPRIVATEER | Sep 8 2014, 12:31 PM Post #47 |
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Watching all the hoopla over Tulane's new stadium Saturday was hard enough given the fact that our adminstration will not even attempt to present a plan for UNO football, but then I turn on the television and watch McNeese take Nebraska to the last seconds of a game tied at 24. Can anyone tell me why UNO cannot be on a level playing field with McNeese? Its about the want, NOTHING ELSE! If not now when? Attendance at our other sporting events will not improve drastically. With football you at least have a chance to add to your fan base and some of that will hopefully trickle down to the other sports. There is a reason that a large percantage of NCAA schools losemoney on football but keep the sport. It helps the university. More schools are adding the sport every year, but not UNO. I know, I know. I am an idiot who will get slaughtered by the latest troll of the department. So be it! |
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| UNOPrivatr | Sep 8 2014, 03:06 PM Post #48 |
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Some twitter stats from Saturday: McNeese was the 13th most talked about topic in the entire world...they trended for three and half hours, second only to Oregon in all of college football...McNeese was talked about more than both the Michigan/Notre Dame and USC/Stanford games. |
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