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Topic Started: Jan 3 2018, 10:01 PM (601 Views)
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WhyCan'tYouSpell,Jan 5 2018
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"Yeah in an ideal world they'd be on the radio, but the department simply can't afford it and the higher ups working there don't really value it either."

Meaning the AD or the President? Just curious.
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WhyCan'tYouSpell,Jan 5 2018
05:14 PM
Anyone with a smart phone these days can listen to the games using them via their home internet or data on their phone.

Was gonna say... I was about as late to the party technologically as any of these old guys, but I do have a smart phone now. At the games I just put it to my ear and listen to the postgame on the way down the ramp. I guess I wish UNO had a radio deal but I think radio will be mostly obsolete before much longer.

Secoer, I don't know what your data plan is but if you have even a decent amount of it per month, streaming audio uses up very very negligible amounts of data. Video is what drains you. I don't sweat audio -- I have to drive into New Orleans three times a week from Hammond, and I am streaming audio the entire drive to and from work and it barely registers when I check my numbers.
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Yeah in an ideal world they'd be on the radio, but the department simply can't afford it and the higher ups working there don't really value it either."


I agree. Sure would love to have games on radio but I'm not positive that they can sell enough ad time to pay for the air time.
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WhyCan'tYouSpell,Jan 5 2018
05:14 PM
You guys are seriously underestimating UNO's budget. Local radio would charge UNO to broadcast their games. This is an expense that UNO can't afford, so they broadcast them on the web.

Anyone with a smart phone these days can listen to the games using them via their home internet or data on their phone.

Yeah in an ideal world they'd be on the radio, but the department simply can't afford it and the higher ups working there don't really value it either.

Maybe they should look into football, that might raise some money. :lol:
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reduno,Jan 5 2018
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WhyCan'tYouSpell,Jan 5 2018
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You guys are seriously underestimating UNO's budget.  Local radio would charge UNO to broadcast their games. This is an expense that UNO can't afford, so they broadcast them on the web.

Anyone with a smart phone these days can listen to the games using them via their home internet or data on their phone.

Yeah in an ideal world they'd be on the radio, but the department simply can't afford it and the higher ups working there don't really value it either.

Maybe they should look into football, that might raise some money. :lol:

I agree. Nothing gained if we don't look at it seriously. I trust Dr. Nicklow to be upfront about any study that might take place.

I couldn't say the same about Ryan. He had a chance as the Chancellor and flubbed it. (To keep the board clean.....)

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Steve,Jan 5 2018
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Was gonna say... I was about as late to the party technologically as any of these old guys, but I do have a smart phone now. At the games I just put it to my ear and listen to the postgame on the way down the ramp. I guess I wish UNO had a radio deal but I think radio will be mostly obsolete before much longer.

Secoer, I don't know what your data plan is but if you have even a decent amount of it per month, streaming audio uses up very very negligible amounts of data. Video is what drains you. I don't sweat audio -- I have to drive into New Orleans three times a week from Hammond, and I am streaming audio the entire drive to and from work and it barely registers when I check my numbers.

I guess I will have to talk to my son and daughter to see what they do. I was always afraid of the "data" charges on my phone.....I remember the "old" days when the company would have a hissy fit with the data charges for those of us with the smart phones.
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I remember the "old" days before Facebook, MySpace, Instagram, LinkedIn, Pinterest, Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, Viber, VK, WeChat, Weibo, WhatsApp, Wikia, Snapchat and YouTube, etc. I liked those days. I guess I'm back off topic.
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Not all change is good and not all old things are bad.
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I'll weigh in on the radio issue. I'm old school and like to listen to the radio.

And while I recognize that radio may be going the way of the dinosaur soon, it's still out there. And college sports are still broadcast over the air...LSU, Tulane...even Southeastern broadcasts their major sports on KSLU in Hammond. Yeah that's a school-owned station. But don't we own WWNO? Is there some reason we can't broadcast our games on NPR or public radio? Asking because I'm not sure...and it's obvious we don't.

Regardless...we look second rate without a radio partner. I don't want to break the bank to buy air time. But there has to be a solution. A school that is starving for fans to come to games needs to make games available to the public by any means possible.


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reduno,Jan 6 2018
09:12 AM
"....not all old things are bad."

Are you talking about yourself.....or me?
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Slidell,Jan 6 2018
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I'll weigh in on the radio issue. I'm old school and like to listen to the radio.

And while I recognize that radio may be going the way of the dinosaur soon, it's still out there. And college sports are still broadcast over the air...LSU, Tulane...even Southeastern broadcasts their major sports on KSLU in Hammond. Yeah that's a school-owned station. But don't we own WWNO? Is there some reason we can't broadcast our games on NPR or public radio? Asking because I'm not sure...and it's obvious we don't.

Regardless...we look second rate without a radio partner. I don't want to break the bank to buy air time. But there has to be a solution. A school that is starving for fans to come to games needs to make games available to the public by any means possible.

You are on target about the radio issue and articulated it well.

We are in a major media market. People have choices with the Pelican's, Saints, Tulane and LSU on the radio daily. We need all the outreach we can muster.

It is frustrating to see UNO lumped with Dilliard, Loyola, and Xavier in the sports section under "General Sports". Is that because we the only school in the area without football?

Other than the NCAA division that is the only difference between UNO and LSU / Tulane......and of course the athletic budget...
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Yeah in an ideal world they'd be on the radio, but the department simply can't afford it and the higher ups working there don't really value it either."


I agree. Sure would love to have games on radio but I'm not positive that they can sell enough ad time to pay for the air time.

Is it that we don't have enough sponsors to handle the radio broadcast? I remember the days when each game had a "named" sponsor. They were recognized at the game, given promotional tickets, gave freebies out with their company name with or without the UNO Privateers logo on it, had their names on the radio spots......It was a way to cover the cost. Plus it provided UNO with a community outreach to generate fan interest.

A few years ago, one of the local radio stations wanted UNO to "purchase" the UNO slots on the game nights for a fee. I don't think it was that expensive but UNO would have to spend some money to do it. Last season several people were solicited to have the NCAA game broadcast on the radio. I am not sure of the cost but Jude reads this blog maybe he can weigh in.....and maybe he can't, which I would understand.


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secoer,Jan 7 2018
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Are you talking about yourself.....or me?

Me.....and you. We're both older than dinosaur crap.
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I'll chime in a little bit on radio vs. streaming audio as the guy mostly in charge of the streaming.

When we had streaming come back in 2011 (?) one of the things I argued for was free audio. I knew if we couldn't provide radio anymore, at the very least we shouldn't charge people to listen online. That said, its 2017 and UNO never left DI so it's a bit of a different world.

Some random thoughts:

1) I would like UNO to be on radio. There has to be a solution somewhere.

2) Radio is *really* costly. I know before he left Jacob had investigated it. He looked at WGSO 990 AM, (then) Fox Sports 1280 AM, and a couple of others. I think 99.5 FM might have been one of them. All of them were rather costly. UNO's athletic budget - this might shock you - is shockingly small relative to the rest of Division I.

3) I know WGSO asked for a lot from UNO airtime, and last time UNO talked to them (2011ish?) they would bump UNO programming for anytime they wanted. UNO couldn't get a promise from them that they would take priority over any fly by night show if the schedule changed. Also WGSO's signal and production has gone way down hill in the last few years.

For example if rain outs forced changes in baseball, but Jane Doe paid for her afternoon spot, Jane Doe got the spot, and UNO got no radio that day. Not that I'm involved in the decisions at all, but I'd find that unacceptable for a flagship station.

4) I know most radio stations do not believe they can sell enough ads to make money during UNO broadcasts.

5) This is a personal thought, but I think if you're going to be on radio you have to somehow make it work on a sports-centric station. The benefits there are simple, daytime hosts are more likely to promote your games, events, product because it's part of their package as a station. People are more likely to hear about your product, and perhaps go check out a game in person, because they are talking about your product. You have a somewhat captive audience.

6) Even if you cannot afford an hour for a coaches show, and you're doing just games - you're still more likely to get your coaches on the regular shows for regular segments, etc.

Example: Every Tuesday or Friday or both Sless gets 15 minutes with X host to promote tomorrow's game, etc.

7) Campus radio has this weird deal with NPR where NPR controls the content. There's also a problem with NPR/public broadcasting where you cannot play commercials and can only have reads. You can work around this obviously, but it does limit your ability to sell sponsorships.

TLDR: I imagine there's a way to get on radio. It's just difficult. I hope it can be sorted out in the future. I know Jude would like to be on radio. I know PAF has talked to him about as recently as the end of last basketball season.

Anyways, those are just the thoughts of a sorta insider. Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the info.

I think we all knew the budget was small. That was the issue for the uncertainty about where UNO was going to be in 2011. Things haven't gotten better from the budget view although that was one of the promises made by Dr. Fos when he made the decision to remain DI, which I believe he meant to keep, except for the State of Louisiana and the budget cuts to higher education.

On another note the PAF has been dissolved so that source is no longer an option.

GO PRIVATEERS!!

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So as a relatively new employee (less than four months) & the one that oversees communications, social media, etc., I will say this...

In my short time here, I’ve looked into enhancing our exposure but UNO would have to buy the airtime, but the stream does have all audio for all events - home and away - free.

Jude is the MBB broadcaster and Manny handles WBB and will be calling baseball this spring.

Any questions let me know :)

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Slidell,Jan 6 2018
03:21 PM
And while I recognize that radio may be going the way of the dinosaur soon, it's still out there. And college sports are still broadcast over the air...LSU, Tulane...even Southeastern broadcasts their major sports on KSLU in Hammond.

I don't know if they still are, but for years Nicholls athletics was available in New Orleans on 100.3 FM I believe. I personally don't sweat radio as it's so easy to just stream and put it on the bluetooth in the car. But that did rankle me. You could hear a Nicholls/UNO game on the radio in *New Orleans*, but from the Nicholls side.
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Steve,Jan 8 2018
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I don't know if they still are, but for years Nicholls athletics was available in New Orleans on 100.3 FM I believe.  I personally don't sweat radio as it's so easy to just stream and put it on the bluetooth in the car.  But that did rankle me.  You could hear a Nicholls/UNO game on the radio in *New Orleans*, but from the Nicholls side.

I think they still are. When you go to Nicholls' website and pick an upcoming basketball game to click the listen link you get moved to 100.3's website. Wasn't sure if they are just streaming there or if they do broadcast them over the air.

Overall I do get the argument about the budget being among the lowest in Division I (if not THE lowest).

But we keep hearing that as the reason we operate the way we do. Concessions and souvenir stand closes early at games because, well, it costs money to staff these things and we have a limited budget.
No banner because, well, don't you want them to spend that money on more important things? No radio because, well, it's expensive and we have a limited budget. Etc., etc., lather, rinse, repeat.

When all of these things come up individually it's easy to just dismiss them individually as too expensive.

But we made an affirmative decision to remain Division 1. I don't recall anyone saying that we were going to remain Division 1 and exist forever on a shoestring budget. I think the expectation was that we were going to remain Division 1 and develop a long term plan to stabilize the department and raise money to ensure long term stability.

The frustrating thing as an alum and a fan is that we just haven't seen a big, tangible effort to do that.

I want things like an NCAA banner hanging in the arena, concession stands and souvenir stands open throughout the game, and games broadcast on the radio.

That's what successful Division 1 programs have.

And while I respect the argument that we have a small budget at the moment, shouldn't we be screaming from the rooftops that we need to change that??? Shouldn't a massive, public fundraising campaign be underway to solve this problem???

And if that is a problem that just has no solution at UNO (even though all of our peers throughout the state seem to have figured out how to have all of the things we've talked about AND play football too), then either we have the wrong leadership or we are trying to be something we just plain and simply are not.

Sorry for the rant.
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Slidell,Jan 8 2018
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I think they still are. When you go to Nicholls' website and pick an upcoming basketball game to click the listen link you get moved to 100.3's website. Wasn't sure if they are just streaming there or if they do broadcast them over the air.

Overall I do get the argument about the budget being among the lowest in Division I (if not THE lowest).

But we keep hearing that as the reason we operate the way we do. Concessions and souvenir stand closes early at games because, well, it costs money to staff these things and we have a limited budget.
No banner because, well, don't you want them to spend that money on more important things? No radio because, well, it's expensive and we have a limited budget. Etc., etc., lather, rinse, repeat.

When all of these things come up individually it's easy to just dismiss them individually as too expensive.

But we made an affirmative decision to remain Division 1. I don't recall anyone saying that we were going to remain Division 1 and exist forever on a shoestring budget. I think the expectation was that we were going to remain Division 1 and develop a long term plan to stabilize the department and raise money to ensure long term stability.

The frustrating thing as an alum and a fan is that we just haven't seen a big, tangible effort to do that.

I want things like an NCAA banner hanging in the arena, concession stands and souvenir stands open throughout the game, and games broadcast on the radio.

That's what successful Division 1 programs have.

And while I respect the argument that we have a small budget at the moment, shouldn't we be screaming from the rooftops that we need to change that??? Shouldn't a massive, public fundraising campaign be underway to solve this problem???

And if that is a problem that just has no solution at UNO (even though all of our peers throughout the state seem to have figured out how to have all of the things we've talked about AND play football too), then either we have the wrong leadership or we are trying to be something we just plain and simply are not.

Sorry for the rant.

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Banners are coming at some point. That isn't budget related. ...no idea when.

Re: Nicholls and ESPN "New Orleans" 100.3 - that station is actually based in Larose, not NOLA. And one if it's main Sponsors is Thibodeaux Regional Hospital. There's a lot of money they would have to replace if they dropped Nicholls coverage.
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