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Dilo's Idea Bazzar; Just throwing them out there
Topic Started: Feb 9 2014, 01:22 AM (1,210 Views)
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Just gonna be throwing my ideas out Here.


I was looking at a Skull drawing of a Silesaurus, and this was the result

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I thought the Predentary Bone was a tooth, but i don't think that would change it too much.
BEHOLD, the shellfish eating Silesaurus. Probably about 4 feet from the hip, Human height with the neck in a typical position.
Using their Long Tooth/Beak/Predentary bone to comb for hiding crabs and other Shellfish, maybe even having flat upper teeth to crack them open, this Tooth/Beak/Predentary bone can also be used for defence by jabbing it at attackers.
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As the guy that is doing most of the false dinos. I don't see this guy happening. I do see a pterosaur like this though. I might even add this idea to a fictodilophid.
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I personally think this idea could work, myself. Maybe muck about with the shape of the predentary, perhaps expand out from just shells and crustaceans to burrowing invertebrates, that sort of thing. Feasibly, I could see this working as a prober, like oystercatchers and other probing birds.
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Feb 9 2014, 01:40 AM
I personally think this idea could work, myself. Maybe muck about with the shape of the predentary, perhaps expand out from just shells and crustaceans to burrowing invertebrates, that sort of thing. Feasibly, I could see this working as a prober, like oystercatchers and other probing birds.
That was kind of the inspiration behind it. and i figured they would be pretty diverse, so there may be some that lean towards broader and specialized diets.
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I'm also seeing a vague resemblance to kagrus.
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Yes, but i think they have the same insparation no?

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A particular group of Carnivorous/Omnivorous Silesaurs have evolved to eat Invertebrates, using there Extended Predentary to look for food. Grey has Evolved to take on a varied Diet, mostly Large Crustaceans and Plants. Red is one that specializes more on Small Shellfish, using the large Predentary bone to comb for holes. The Green one is specialized for mostly burrowing invertebrates, tapping and combing the trees and ground for burrows of potential prey.

Decided to make a size scale between 3 different genuses of these Silesaurs
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Feb 9 2014, 02:06 AM
Yes, but i think they have the same insparation no?

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A particular group of Carnivorous/Omnivorous Silesaurs have evolved to eat Invertebrates, using there Extended Predentary to look for food. Grey has Evolved to take on a varied Diet, mostly Large Crustaceans and Plants. Red is one that specializes more on Small Shellfish, using the large Predentary bone to comb for holes. The Green one is specialized for mostly burrowing invertebrates, tapping and combing the trees and ground for burrows of potential prey.

Decided to make a size scale between 3 different genuses of these Silesaurs
I would see the upper jaw having something like this to as a form of tweezers but I don't see just the lower jaw.

Maybe the lower jaw thing could split and move to the side. Basically a smilodon silesaur only the saber point up.

I could only see the "long lower jaw" idea as a upside down saber tooth.

Plus these would be in competition with Fictudilophids for fish and crustaceans. So maybe instead of hunters of the water, they could be this world's smilodon or even warthog.
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Feb 9 2014, 05:56 AM
Maybe the lower jaw thing could split and move to the side. Basically a smilodon silesaur only the saber point up.

I could only see the "long lower jaw" idea as a upside down saber tooth.
You mean like Deinotherium? And The two groups could have lived in different parts of the world, and those that lived in the same area could have had a different niche, just like how theres less specialized, then there's the ones that eat insects.
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Feb 9 2014, 06:28 AM
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Feb 9 2014, 05:56 AM
Maybe the lower jaw thing could split and move to the side. Basically a smilodon silesaur only the saber point up.

I could only see the "long lower jaw" idea as a upside down saber tooth.
You mean like Deinotherium? And The two groups could have lived in different parts of the world, and those that lived in the same area could have had a different niche, just like how theres less specialized, then there's the ones that eat insects.
Not really like deinotherium. I mean that the things grow to the side and point up like a U.

I still see it as both upper and lower jaws having tweezer-like things. That or short lived flightless skimmers. Probing animals like you suggest have ibis-like mouths for keeping their head above the surface while they could still make contact with the ground, looking for prey.

As far as I know this adaption you are proposing has only happened once. The likeliness of this happening again would be 90000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to 1

Like DK1000 said a kagrus or tweezer mouth would be neat. That or warthog/smilodon or both silesaur analogs.
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The idea i have, at least the ones that eat Crustaceans come in at low tide, where they probe for a meal in the sandy mud beaches, i figured the Digging beak thing would be somewhat flat to help dig out food, if not using their limbs.
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Feb 9 2014, 08:04 AM
The idea i have, at least the ones that eat Crustaceans come in at low tide, where they probe for a meal in the sandy mud beaches, i figured the Digging beak thing would be somewhat flat to help dig out food, if not using their limbs.
Like a shellfish eating platybelodon?
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More like so, The Probing Beak is stabbed into the Ground, Testing for the Pockets that Crustaceans and other Invertebrates hide in, it will dig them out and eat them.
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Feb 9 2014, 08:19 AM
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More like so, The Probing Beak is stabbed into the Ground, Testing for the Pockets that Crustaceans and other Invertebrates hide in, it will dig them out and eat them.
How would it reach it with that in the way? And animals with both jaws being like that are very capable of the same thing.

This design only occurred once and it was for skimming. Ibises, snipes, avocets, curlews, spoonbills, storks, cranes, herons...... they all have more suitable mouth designs for this. If the upper beak broke off they'd die because their life style requires both jaws being the same length.

Also their are many other species more suited for this. Nothosaurs, Fictudilophids, dracosuchids, plesiosaurs, Placodonts, pterosaurs....... A silesaur would be better suited as a Hadrosaur or sauropod analog.
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Revised the Silesaurs and added a Antelope Silesaurus idea.
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I think i just thought of how to fix Longisquama, What if the Hockeysticks where more Leaf Like?
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Well they were pretty leaf shaped to begin with.
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Feb 16 2014, 10:05 PM
Well they were pretty leaf shaped to begin with.
So they could be alot more like Leaf Katydids instead.
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Terrestrial leafy seadragon might be a more fitting comparison.
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Feb 16 2014, 10:10 PM
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Feb 16 2014, 10:05 PM
Well they were pretty leaf shaped to begin with.
So they could be alot more like Leaf Katydids instead.
If it is a insectivore then it could be the reptile answer to this....

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Feb 16 2014, 10:24 PM
Terrestrial leafy seadragon might be a more fitting comparison.
That sounds about right.

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Can you guess what these are?


Their the Jokers.
The long Forgotten idea i had for New Pterosaurs, finally revised and made to look more realistic!
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So what sort of pterosaurs are they? They look a lot like dsungaripterids to me.
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Feb 16 2014, 10:40 PM
So what sort of pterosaurs are they? They look a lot like dsungaripterids to me.
not quite sure yet, depends on what Pterosaurs stay or not.
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Pterosaurs, ever on the glide around their island homes, The Poor Researcher wasn't expecting the portal to take him here next, after it had taken him to so many large continents, but their was something off about these Pterosaurs, They didn't have legs, or at least the same kind we do, Once he saw some walking on the Small island, it was apparent they where walking on their Wings! But some did have Legs, they were obviously Different, So he called them by two groups, Pteranopods(Quetzals) and Neopteranopods(Amphiptere).

Horray for a (Not so) Everflying Pterosaur! Using their Legs to walk (inspired my Nyctosaurus's Ridiculous Wings), Then it did strike me, What if some of them regained Legs for a Different use, HANDS! and thus the Two Groups were Born from the Jokers (to make them Useful in the Evolutionary Tree), so maybe A Sapien Pterosaur will Rise?
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Feb 18 2014, 04:28 AM
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Pterosaurs, ever on the glide around their island homes, The Poor Researcher wasn't expecting the portal to take him here next, after it had taken him to so many large continents, but their was something off about these Pterosaurs, They didn't have legs, or at least the same kind we do, Once he saw some walking on the Small island, it was apparent they where walking on their Wings! But some did have Legs, they were obviously Different, So he called them by two groups, Pteranopods(Quetzals) and Neopteranopods(Amphiptere).

Horray for a (Not so) Everflying Pterosaur! Using their Legs to walk (inspired my Nyctosaurus's Ridiculous Wings), Then it did strike me, What if some of them regained Legs for a Different use, HANDS! and thus the Two Groups were Born from the Jokers (to make them Useful in the Evolutionary Tree), so maybe A Sapien Pterosaur will Rise?
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Well That's...different.
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So they're lophocratian pterodactyloids?
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