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Dilo's Idea Bazzar; Just throwing them out there
Topic Started: Feb 9 2014, 01:22 AM (1,211 Views)
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Well you'd need something for the thing to get in first

Numbing agents, Infections, and eating you from the inside out to get out, If your gonna make a parasite then make it painless so they don't know its in there till its horrifyingly too late XD
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the dark phoenix
Jan 10 2015, 07:46 PM
Well you'd need something for the thing to get in first

Numbing agents, Infections, and eating you from the inside out to get out, If your gonna make a parasite then make it painless so they don't know its in there till its horrifyingly too late XD
or, youknow, They could just start as soon as the eggs hatch.
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Something I feel like I should say here is that what you'e both describing isn't parasitism, it's parasitoidy; the difference being that a parasitic organism exists symbiotically with their host while a parasitoidal organism will ultimately sterilise or kill off their host. If this organism is just eating its host from the inside out, ultimately killing it, it's a parasitoid.

Personally, if I were to pick a tetrapod to become parasitic, it would be an amphibian, most likely a temnospondyl. Being a parasite to the degree we're talking about involves a high degree of specialisation that I personally suspect isn't feasible for amniotes. However, I suspect amphibians might be able to pull off this sort of lifestyle. Maybe.

This has lead me to think up a concept for a parasitic-temnospondyl, however. The idea is that this species (or maybe an entire clade) is neotenous and never fully metamorphoses from the tadpole stage. Instead, the tadpoles become specialised for a parasitic lifestyle, resembling lampreys in terms of their general shape and mouth parts. However, the tadpoles only become parasites when they develop lungs (and possibly hind legs*), so they are able to latch on to a host when it comes to drink and survive out of the water in the air. This way they can avoid competition with lampreys, as well as exploit an untapped niche, by feeding on a terrestrial host out of the water. I suspect the tadpoles would have to latch themselves on to the inside of the mouth/nostrils/other hidden, moist areas since I imagine that a.) they'd dessicate out in the open and b.) they'd have a hard time piercing the skin/scales/whatever of certain species. I'm not quite sure exactly how their reproduction would go, but I'm thinking of something along the lines of once the tadpoles are finished feeding they drop off their host when they next go for a drink, or if they have *legs they could drop off during wet weather and make their own way to a source of water to spawn.

That's about as much as I've brainstormed so far, thoughts?
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Jan 11 2015, 03:28 PM
Something I feel like I should say here is that what you'e both describing isn't parasitism, it's parasitoidy; the difference being that a parasitic organism exists symbiotically with their host while a parasitoidal organism will ultimately sterilise or kill off their host. If this organism is just eating its host from the inside out, ultimately killing it, it's a parasitoid.

Personally, if I were to pick a tetrapod to become parasitic, it would be an amphibian, most likely a temnospondyl. Being a parasite to the degree we're talking about involves a high degree of specialisation that I personally suspect isn't feasible for amniotes. However, I suspect amphibians might be able to pull off this sort of lifestyle. Maybe.

This has lead me to think up a concept for a parasitic-temnospondyl, however. The idea is that this species (or maybe an entire clade) is neotenous and never fully metamorphoses from the tadpole stage. Instead, the tadpoles become specialised for a parasitic lifestyle, resembling lampreys in terms of their general shape and mouth parts. However, the tadpoles only become parasites when they develop lungs (and possibly hind legs*), so they are able to latch on to a host when it comes to drink and survive out of the water in the air. This way they can avoid competition with lampreys, as well as exploit an untapped niche, by feeding on a terrestrial host out of the water. I suspect the tadpoles would have to latch themselves on to the inside of the mouth/nostrils/other hidden, moist areas since I imagine that a.) they'd dessicate out in the open and b.) they'd have a hard time piercing the skin/scales/whatever of certain species. I'm not quite sure exactly how their reproduction would go, but I'm thinking of something along the lines of once the tadpoles are finished feeding they drop off their host when they next go for a drink, or if they have *legs they could drop off during wet weather and make their own way to a source of water to spawn.

That's about as much as I've brainstormed so far, thoughts?
Sounds Pretty cool, actually, I did think that Amphibians might have been a better choice than a "derplizard", I guess the eating from the inside out should be left to the ones who already Do it.
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Something about the whole eating-from-the-inside-out thing just occurred to me: would a tetrapod-parasite even be able to breathe while doing that? Granted, I don't exactly know how other endoparasites do that, but given they're things like worms and other invertebrates I'm pretty sure it's something tetrapods can't do (I know at least flatworms breathe by just absorbing nutrients and oxygen from blood through their skin).
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Jan 11 2015, 05:54 PM
Something about the whole eating-from-the-inside-out thing just occurred to me: would a tetrapod-parasite even be able to breathe while doing that? Granted, I don't exactly know how other endoparasites do that, but given they're things like worms and other invertebrates I'm pretty sure it's something tetrapods can't do (I know at least flatworms breathe by just absorbing nutrients and oxygen from blood through their skin).
I'd think if tadpole staged amphibians had gills then they could somehow steal oxygen and stuff while feeding.
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Maybe if they nest in the lungs the victim could have the air come to them?
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Jan 12 2015, 01:09 AM
Maybe if they nest in the lungs the victim could have the air come to them?
That could work.
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I've been tossing around a lot of Joker ideas as of late. Especially a group dubbed for now as "Lophocresteia" or Crest Growers due to the fact the Crest grow a lot like trees, as in they grow in rings. Mostly allowing for those that survive relatively well over the year to have a better advantage than others. It also allows for age to be told for human observers. Probably gonna have then develop from a Crestless group of Jokers around 70MYA and maybe surviving to the present.
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So antlered pterosaurs before THE antlered pterosaur? XD
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Jan 16 2015, 04:49 PM
So antlered pterosaurs before THE antlered pterosaur? XD
Not exactly because they don't have a rediculus Monoantler
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First Sketchdump of the New Year

A Baleen Aquaptero, Preditory Pterosaur, Killer Swift Pterosaurs (and the Cleaners they mimic), a Pteropenguin, a knockoff suction feeding Aquaptero, and a Derplizard Parasite idea.
Edited by Dilophoraptor, Jan 17 2015, 02:58 AM.
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A bipedal pterosaur?

BLACK MAGIC!

XD

So Vampire pterosaurs, Oxpecker pterosaurs, Flamingo pterosaurs, Stork pterosaurs, Penguin pterosaurs, and Pterosaurian vacuum cleaner...

I approve of the parasitic derplizard and the pterosaurs except for the pterosaurian vacuum cleaner.
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Jan 17 2015, 05:06 PM
A bipedal pterosaur?

BLACK MAGIC!

XD

So Vampire pterosaurs, Oxpecker pterosaurs, FlamingoWhale pterosaurs, Stork pterosaurs, Penguin pterosaurs, and Pterosaurian vacuum cleaner...

I approve of the parasitic derplizard and the pterosaurs except for the pterosaurian vacuum cleaner.
The Biped Pterosaur is just a Non-Canon sapient species that I'm actually planning to use in another project. the Suction feeding in water is easy, infact many aquatic animals utilize it because its just using a water dynamic and empty spaces for an advantage, In Fact we can do it, though i don't advise it as our Lungs aren't protected.
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Jan 17 2015, 06:02 PM
the dark phoenix
Jan 17 2015, 05:06 PM
A bipedal pterosaur?

BLACK MAGIC!

XD

So Vampire pterosaurs, Oxpecker pterosaurs, FlamingoWhale pterosaurs, Stork pterosaurs, Penguin pterosaurs, and Pterosaurian vacuum cleaner...

I approve of the parasitic derplizard and the pterosaurs except for the pterosaurian vacuum cleaner.
The Biped Pterosaur is just a Non-Canon sapient species that I'm actually planning to use in another project. the Suction feeding in water is easy, infact many aquatic animals utilize it because its just using a water dynamic and empty spaces for an advantage, In Fact we can do it, though i don't advise it as our Lungs aren't protected.
Well we do use suction......

Straws in cups of soda or some other drink.
Edited by the dark phoenix, Jan 18 2015, 08:25 PM.
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Jan 18 2015, 08:25 PM
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Jan 17 2015, 06:02 PM
the dark phoenix
Jan 17 2015, 05:06 PM
A bipedal pterosaur?

BLACK MAGIC!

XD

So Vampire pterosaurs, Oxpecker pterosaurs, FlamingoWhale pterosaurs, Stork pterosaurs, Penguin pterosaurs, and Pterosaurian vacuum cleaner...

I approve of the parasitic derplizard and the pterosaurs except for the pterosaurian vacuum cleaner.
The Biped Pterosaur is just a Non-Canon sapient species that I'm actually planning to use in another project. the Suction feeding in water is easy, infact many aquatic animals utilize it because its just using a water dynamic and empty spaces for an advantage, In Fact we can do it, though i don't advise it as our Lungs aren't protected.
Well we do use suction......

Straws in cups of soda or some other drink.
exactly
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Starting out with an Abridged Eudimorphodon i derive both a Predatory Aquaptero and a precursor to the Hydrotitan.
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This is replacing the Strike. a Giant Camel Spider that eats Dracosuchaids, arbrosuchoids, and Pterosaurs.
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In the past week or so the only two ideas i thought of was Dracosuchoids going alla' Pterodaustro and Alla' Allosaurus/Moa.

The Allomoa one hailing in New Zealand, maybe as a Psudodracosuch related to the Quadrakes? just remembered the design did could on it having venom.

That and is it possible for Zealandia to NOT sink in MN?

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Apterasuchus sp.
Edited by Dilophoraptor, Feb 8 2015, 02:34 AM.
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You know what we haven't really touched on? Rauisuchids!

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http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2015/045/5/4/mesozoic_nova_sketch_dump_by_diloporaptor-d8hz9vs.png < for a larger view

1. a Retrosaurian Rauisuchid with Inflatable displays.
2. Walrus Dycinodont
3. Allomoa Closeup
4. Gracile Struthiosuchoid
5. More Retrosaurian Rauisuchids
6. Filter Feeding Dracosuchoid
7. Struthiosucoid comparison
8. Another Allomoa concept
9. Alla Paraceratherium Gallumph
10. Fuzzy Pantherosuchoid
11. Sitting Retrosaurian
12. a few different Sphenosuchians
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Alright, I had an idea, Drop Crocs, Somewhat smaller Pantherosuchids that hunt by landing on their prey, Based off of this behavior showcased in the video
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Official appearance of Dinotyrannosuchus gladius
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Is it the angle or is this a short bodied animal?
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Apr 26 2015, 08:33 PM
Is it the angle or is this a short bodied animal?
its angled away, i thought the legs woulda shown the angle
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Names to put faces too(list will expand)

Kadavasaurus/Kadavasuchus-Corpse Lizard/Crocodile
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