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Phoenix's basket of ideas.
Topic Started: Feb 9 2014, 06:10 AM (380 Views)
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Well everyone else has one so instead of cluttering the forum I decided to make one of these.

So basic ideas I've already mentioned.

Ichthyosaurs acting as today's Orcas, Dolphins, and Porpoises.
Geosuchids as the mustelids of this world.
Fictudilophids as flightless herons, beach combers, and scavengers
Warthog or smilodon silesaurs
Antelope-like silesaurs
Sauropod-like silesaurs.
Otter-like nothosaurs
Slender, long necked, long tailed plesiosaur(perentie with flippers)


Might think of a sister group for fictudilophids that might be like compies.


I also have a idea for Pycnofibres or early feathers on some of these.


So now that I've rambled, pick one of the following ideas and I'll blab more about it.
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So any idea for sounds?

Personally I think Silesaurs would use clicks and barks while my fictodilophids use hisses and snarls along with visual display.
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Early synapsid reptiles have been known to produce at least one arboreal form. I don't see why they could not do this again.

But with the Viverrid, Procyonid, and Mustelid analogous Geosuchids and Dilo's arborsuchids I think most arboreal niches would be taken. The only thing I Don't see a early archosaur doing is a koala or sloth-like niche.
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Any thoughts on a koala or sloth-like Early Synapsid? The tree seem to be claimed by archosaurs.
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Three delphisaurids done in a row in the genus Delphisaurus.
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How did we forget these guys?

One of the mesozoic's mot iconic fossils.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medlicottiaceae

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceratitida

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussuritidae

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discophyllitidae

AMMONITES!
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Nov 12 2014, 06:37 PM
:Soon:
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Nov 13 2014, 01:11 AM
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:Soon:
BTW what was that hogwash that David peter's was saying?
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Nov 13 2014, 05:26 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 01:11 AM
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Nov 12 2014, 06:37 PM
:Soon:
BTW what was that hogwash that David peter's was saying?
There is a lot David Peters has said, be more Specific.
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Nov 14 2014, 01:36 AM
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Nov 13 2014, 05:26 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 01:11 AM
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Nov 12 2014, 06:37 PM
:Soon:
BTW what was that hogwash that David peter's was saying?
There is a lot David Peters has said, be more Specific.
You mentioned something in skype about him and it led to the poposaurus flying thing.
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Nov 14 2014, 01:36 AM
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Nov 13 2014, 05:26 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 01:11 AM
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Nov 12 2014, 06:37 PM
:Soon:
BTW what was that hogwash that David peter's was saying?
There is a lot David Peters has said, be more Specific.
You mentioned something in skype about him and it led to the poposaurus flying thing.
Its a joke i made, i was talking with Frost and he was talking about a Dragon Mimic Poposaurus, but i was thinking of Lotosaurus, because i knew it was related atleast, this this happened- :Popo:
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Besides sauropod silesaurs(how about we make these but they die out in favor of dicynodonts) and antelope silesaurs. What else can we do with these guys? I'm still thinking of more false theropods(Just more pseudodilophids and maybe some compy-like things that die out in the Eocene) and more geosuchids.


I am also trying to figure out what I want to do with the nothosaurs. I know I'll do otter and seal analogs but at our PoD there were also proto-plesiosaurs. So I was thinking since ichthyosaurs are out now for the modern day, maybe some plesiosaurs can be like a mosasaur but with a longer neck like what dilo drew.

Giant oceanic snapping turtles would be neat too... get the guys out of the jellyfish/seagrass diet niche maybe they can take the place of pliosaurs if we don't wanna go that route.
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I have a idea concerning the non-Prestosuchid Rauisuchids.

They'd get bigger ending up as the retrosaur carnosaurs that dilo spoke about, feeding on the large sauropod-like silesaurs and dicynodonts. But once the sauropod-silesaurs due out along with the dicyndonts downsizing, they die out in favor of newer archosaurs or smaller ones survive and continue preying on the dicynodonts.
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Just for laughs and for the fun of it. Can we make a non-canon sapient being? Perhaps a dicynodont, archosaur, or cynodont being?
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Just for laughs and for the fun of it. Can we make a non-canon sapient being? Perhaps a dicynodont, archosaur, or cynodont being?
theres always Pterosaurs
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Just for laughs and for the fun of it. Can we make a non-canon sapient being? Perhaps a dicynodont, archosaur, or cynodont being?
theres always Pterosaurs
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Jan 3 2015, 10:59 PM
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Jan 3 2015, 05:32 PM
Just for laughs and for the fun of it. Can we make a non-canon sapient being? Perhaps a dicynodont, archosaur, or cynodont being?
theres always Pterosaurs
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Too creepy
the Creepier the Better
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They were just starting to fly, I don't think their gonna trade flight for brain power.
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Jan 4 2015, 02:11 AM
They were just starting to fly, I don't think their gonna trade flight for brain power.
Who said they had to?
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OK, then instead of just one Non-canon sapient being. We have a bunch.

A cynodont, dicynodont, pterosaur, Dinosaurmorph, rauchisuchid, ect

Just so we can get the laughs out of our systems.
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A sapient Dracosuchid.


WITH A FLAMETHROWER.
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A sapient Dracosuchid.


WITH A FLAMETHROWER.
Yeah the problem with that is DG already exists frost.
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OK I got a idea for three Silesaur groups

Sauropod-mimics that last from the Triassic to the Cretaceous. I think we should dub the group Silepoda.

A off branch of Silepoda that survives the K-Pg event will be Saurocamelids, smaller and more graceful sauropod mimics acting similar to camels, llamas, and gerenuks.

Silesaurs would have their family line forked, one branch leading to Silepoda and the other leading to Gazelladontia(Kirins and other antelope-like silesaurs)


Gazelladonts and Saurocamelids will both represent modern silesaurs.


As for the Lagerpetids would be a straight line with a "Side road" on it. Lagerpetids would give rise to Pseudodilophids who will be like crested false theropods that would live like herons while the "Side road" would give rise to the jackal-like Velociavids, fast fur-quilled predators that feed on insects and carrion. Large Pseudodilophids beyond 5 ft tall(Largest being 8 ft tall) die out during the Oligocene. After that Lagerpetids will never grow large again.

So four False dino groups live on to the present.

I got new ideas for Nothosaurs and my Geosuchids but those will come later.
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Alright, Next thing is Nothosaurs.

Nothosaurs already gave rise to the already plesiosaur-like Pistosaurs. I though would like for some Pistosaurs to go into a more serpentine form while others form "Pseudo plesiosaurs". Torso and tail lengthening further and the paddles becoming larger or longer depending on if the species is a fast predator or a slow shellfish eater.

The Pistosaurs would basically become the Mosasaurs and false plesiosaurs of this project. Pseudo plesiosaurs would die out in the Paleocene, whereas the Mosasaur-pistosaurs would be similar to our basiliosaurs later with them too dying out leaving more fish shaped species surviving. So in a way the Pistosaurs would fill the Mosasaur, Plesiosaur, Basiliosaur, Ichthyosaur, and Dolphin and whale niches of this project(I see sperm whale forms but no baleen toothed forms)

Nothosaurs being still present would fit into otter and seal niches. Larger species being like Sea lions on the coast while smaller species go inland and act as freshwater otters. Maybe they can even compete with my Geosuchids for the weasel niches inland too.


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OK redoing my idea for the pistosaurs.

Plesiosaur-like forms will persist into the Cenozoic to the modern day but only in small fast short necked forms

The larger mosasaur-like forms will also persist but are rarer with some losing their long necks in favor of larger heads and filter feeding.

Also If there is one please direct me to it, I think we need a list of what ideas we already have. That way we don't have one million species for one niche.
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