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Animals to be considered.
Topic Started: Feb 11 2014, 01:42 AM (204 Views)
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Animals that should be considered is mostly for new discoveries as far as i can say, but we could probably talk about old discoveries too.


So, Whats gonna happen to are new Friend the Atopodentatus?
Whale or something, or is it going to go extinct?


What's to become of Longisquama?
Are we going to have a group of hockey stick back lizards or are they going to go extinct?


If these two have already been discussed let me know so i can get up to date.
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Feb 11 2014, 01:42 AM
Animals that should be considered is mostly for new discoveries as far as i can say, but we could probably talk about old discoveries too.


So, Whats gonna happen to are new Friend the Atopodentatus?
Whale or something, or is it going to go extinct?


What's to become of Longisquama?
Are we going to have a group of hockey stick back lizards or are they going to go extinct?


If these two have already been discussed let me know so i can get up to date.
Give special muscles to the Longisquama and we could have flying chameleons. We could consider the back "feathers" as two wing-like sails.

Butterfly chameleons is all I can think of for it.

as for Atopodentatus we should ask DK1000 on what the whale-like niche should belong to.
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As much as I love Atopodentatus, unfortunately it's too old to be included at the start. The project begins roughly 231 million years ago, while Atopodentatus lived 240 million years ago, 11million years earlier.

As for Longisquama, the whole flying thing hinges entirely on whether the fronds were paired laterally on the sides of the body, and I could've sworn the current consensus was that the fronds were in an unpaired row along the spine. And even if they were paired, I doubt such a design would be at all effective for flight.

Edit: Fixed your derp. Edit in bold.
Edited by Jack Frost, Feb 11 2014, 06:23 PM.
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Feb 11 2014, 03:01 AM
As much as I love Atopodentatus, unfortunately it's too old to be included at the start. The project begins roughly 231 million years ago, while Atopodentatus lived 240 million years ago, 11 years earlier.

As for Longisquama, the whole flying thing hinges entirely on whether the fronds were paired laterally on the sides of the body, and I could've sworn the current consensus was that the fronds were in an unpaired row along the spine. And even if they were paired, I doubt such a design would be at all effective for flight.
Atopoden: alright

Longis: thats why i was just thinking bigger versions with more frilly parts
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Feb 11 2014, 03:21 AM
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Feb 11 2014, 03:01 AM
As much as I love Atopodentatus, unfortunately it's too old to be included at the start. The project begins roughly 231 million years ago, while Atopodentatus lived 240 million years ago, 11 years earlier.

As for Longisquama, the whole flying thing hinges entirely on whether the fronds were paired laterally on the sides of the body, and I could've sworn the current consensus was that the fronds were in an unpaired row along the spine. And even if they were paired, I doubt such a design would be at all effective for flight.
Atopoden: alright

Longis: thats why i was just thinking bigger versions with more frilly parts
So instead of a flying chameleon we just have a flightless bird of paradise chameleon?
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the dark phoenix
Feb 11 2014, 04:39 AM
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Feb 11 2014, 03:21 AM
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Feb 11 2014, 03:01 AM
As much as I love Atopodentatus, unfortunately it's too old to be included at the start. The project begins roughly 231 million years ago, while Atopodentatus lived 240 million years ago, 11 years earlier.

As for Longisquama, the whole flying thing hinges entirely on whether the fronds were paired laterally on the sides of the body, and I could've sworn the current consensus was that the fronds were in an unpaired row along the spine. And even if they were paired, I doubt such a design would be at all effective for flight.
Atopoden: alright

Longis: thats why i was just thinking bigger versions with more frilly parts
So instead of a flying chameleon we just have a flightless bird of paradise chameleon?
Basicly.
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I'm fine with that.
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Sounds fine with me too, although if I were to have one qualm with that, it would be that they'd be awfully conspicuous decked out in all those frilly bits and fronds. Birds of paradise can get away with it because they live in relative isolation and can fly (admittedly constrained flight, but flight nonetheless), a flightless diapsid has no such means of escape.

On a side out, I don't think the comparison to chameleons is very just for Longisquama. I don't know where people got that idea from, especially since nothing about the skeleton looks particularly chameleon like.
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Feb 11 2014, 06:57 PM
Sounds fine with me too, although if I were to have one qualm with that, it would be that they'd be awfully conspicuous decked out in all those frilly bits and fronds. Birds of paradise can get away with it because they live in relative isolation and can fly (admittedly constrained flight, but flight nonetheless), a flightless diapsid has no such means of escape.

On a side out, I don't think the comparison to chameleons is very just for Longisquama. I don't know where people got that idea from, especially since nothing about the skeleton looks particularly chameleon like.
Speaking of Chameleons

Drepanosaurs are another thing to think about, Given their appearance, they could probably act a lot like Chameleons.
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Ive noticed we haven't given much thought into Aetosaurs, What can we do with those really? are they gonna stay the same basic body plan or will they branch out?
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http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/science-evidence-battle-triassic-predators-phytosaur-rauisuchid-02179.html
We got some news that's probably relevant enough to post i feel.
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Oct 1 2014, 11:23 PM
Darn you dilo I was about to post that!
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Are we planning any more... obscure archosaurs? Such as Smok, Teraterpeton, Aetosaurs, and so on? Also, what of non-tetrapod groups, such as various fish? I saw we have a few, but, I think we could possibly do more. Also, the type of plants the world has is fairly important as well. I don't know if Angiosperms would exist in this world due to Chaos Theory, but, other plants might.

Edit 1: Smok got added after discussing it with DK. And how did I not notice Aetosaurs were already added?
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Apr 18 2015, 01:42 AM
Are we planning any more... obscure archosaurs? Such as Smok, Teraterpeton, Aetosaurs, and so on? Also, what of non-tetrapod groups, such as various fish? I saw we have a few, but, I think we could possibly do more. Also, the type of plants the world has is fairly important as well. I don't know if Angiosperms would exist in this world due to Chaos Theory, but, other plants might.

Edit 1: Smok got added after discussing it with DK. And how did I not notice Aetosaurs were already added?
Trust me, Aetosaurs are just gonna get weirder.
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Nothosaurs,pistosaurs,Geosuchids, and false dinos are my territory just to be clear spino.
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I would like it all to be free range, We might work on only a few Groups on average, but if wanted we should be able to go into other groups regardless if someone usually does them or not.

Anyways, It would be Nice if i didn't hear any more hostility from either of you, If Spino is going to be working with us we are going to have to respect eachother, thats the only reason that Mesozoic Nova has stayed alive this long, I DON'T want that peace broken.
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Apr 21 2015, 05:06 AM
Nothosaurs,pistosaurs,Geosuchids, and false dinos are my territory just to be clear spino.
:facepalm:

I'll just what I want to do, Phoenix. No one has a monopoly over anything here.
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Apr 21 2015, 05:06 AM
Nothosaurs,pistosaurs,Geosuchids, and false dinos are my territory just to be clear spino.
Your on thin ice Ten. Spino quiet literally done nothing to you here, and if you don't knock it off your place here is gonna be in serious question.
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Where do I submit stuff?
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Apr 22 2015, 11:53 PM
Where do I submit stuff?
We are currently doing major revisions on how we are doing MN, So any Ideas for Fauna we only suggest now and do something Similar to SPEC in the Faunal Showcase later on.
Edited by Dilophoraptor, Apr 23 2015, 02:20 AM.
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Apr 22 2015, 11:51 PM
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Apr 21 2015, 05:06 AM
Nothosaurs,pistosaurs,Geosuchids, and false dinos are my territory just to be clear spino.
Your on thin ice Ten. Spino quiet literally done nothing to you here, and if you don't knock it off your place here is gonna be in serious question.
I beg your pardon?

Since Dracosuchids are frost's ideas and he has a certain goal for them, I leave them alone out of respect. I leave the Aetosaurs alone since Dilo works on them out of respect. Everyone has a certain idea on what their specific groups are and I honestly don't want someone throwing a wrench in it, I don't mess with other people's stuff on here so why would a new comer be different?

If Spino works on something like the Postasuchids, phytosaurs, or other animals I'm not working on, then it will be like a giraffe among antelope, working on different things and not bothering each other.

I myself believe everyone so far as agreed to their own ideas and goals in this project and I just don't want that peace and our goals to be altered. I'm a person of habit. If something new comes along that I did not have anything to do with it, then I usually see it as wrong. Change is a little spooky to me at times and is the only time I'll consider myself a chicken. I apologies for the hostility.
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We're supposed to be a team Ten. This project is hard enough as it is without infighting. I don't know what your past is with Spino and I don't particularly care. He offered his help, I took it. I expect you to man up and move on. Can I trust you to do that?
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Phoenix, wat.

I'm working with the list of base taxa, and if phytosaurs are there, I will work with them. I'm pretty sure I'm not required to work on something just because you are working on them. If that logic applied to most collaborations in Spec Evo, I'd be horribly stunted in creativity. I would not have the Sarcosporales in Bygone World for instance. While a lot of people were doing various archosaurs and synapsids, my first creations for it were highly derived seed-ferns.
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Apr 23 2015, 04:38 AM
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Apr 22 2015, 11:51 PM
the dark phoenix
Apr 21 2015, 05:06 AM
Nothosaurs,pistosaurs,Geosuchids, and false dinos are my territory just to be clear spino.
Your on thin ice Ten. Spino quiet literally done nothing to you here, and if you don't knock it off your place here is gonna be in serious question.
I beg your pardon?

Since Dracosuchids are frost's ideas and he has a certain goal for them, I leave them alone out of respect. I leave the Aetosaurs alone since Dilo works on them out of respect. Everyone has a certain idea on what their specific groups are and I honestly don't want someone throwing a wrench in it, I don't mess with other people's stuff on here so why would a new comer be different?

If Spino works on something like the Postasuchids, phytosaurs, or other animals I'm not working on, then it will be like a giraffe among antelope, working on different things and not bothering each other.

I myself believe everyone so far as agreed to their own ideas and goals in this project and I just don't want that peace and our goals to be altered. I'm a person of habit. If something new comes along that I did not have anything to do with it, then I usually see it as wrong. Change is a little spooky to me at times and is the only time I'll consider myself a chicken. I apologies for the hostility.
Ten, I have done so many different groups, Aetosaurs have only been focused on by me because no one else really brought them up till i Did, but if there are Aetosaur ideas that you had, you'd be free to post them, let alone if anyone else wanted to post Aetosaurs.
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Apr 23 2015, 07:07 AM
We're supposed to be a team Ten. This project is hard enough as it is without infighting. I don't know what your past is with Spino and I don't particularly care. He offered his help, I took it. I expect you to man up and move on. Can I trust you to do that?
Yes sir...

Yes dilo...
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