Welcome Guest
[Log In]
[Register]
| Welcome to ScottKellerForPresident2012. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Scott on Healthcare from FB | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 25 2011, 10:07 PM (147 Views) | |
| prometheuspan@hotmail.com | Jul 25 2011, 10:07 PM Post #1 |
![]()
Vulcan
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Michielle Tubonjic Hey Scott, what are you stances on healthcare? July 19 at 6:29am · Like · Scott Keller Where are we and where do we want to be regarding health care? What's the ideal? Let's start with where we want to be. Ideally, we would have a system that helps everyone be healthy, right? What's the path to get there? Is there an alternative path or more than one alternative path? What's standing in our way? At a minimum, 1st, we need to get rid of the conflicts of interest. As long as money is the motivator, and as long money goes away when people get healthy there will be a conflict of interest. Health care professionals are supposed to have the patient's health as the number one goal. But the system forces them to do what's financially beneficial for themselves. Some countries have reverse compensation models to deal with this issue. 2nd, get rid of the Fed. As long as we don't have sovereign money, or some kind of sovereign means of exchange, we will have a hard time on a national level with anything even remotely related to the economy. Right now the money all belongs to the Fed, and they're the ones who control it. We need to, at a minimum, print our own. Then we'll have enough to accommodate medical needs until we can change the system to be without the conflicts of interest which we should already be working on. 3rd, start a non-profit coop group which is tasked with finding and communicating all of the best practices, medically or otherwise related to health, so that everyone knows the best practices (from around the world) all around the country. 4th, and this may be closer to a 1a than a 4, but we need to stop stomping on people who have come up with great ideas, especially if those ideas have been tested and shown to work. The story of Stanislaw Burzynski is shameful. Here's a man who discovered something that actually WORKS on cancer patients, and the FDA tried repeatedly to squash him at the request of the pharmaceutical companies. And his story is not the only one. 5th, give people the time they need and the food they need to be healthy. Take away the stresses as much as possible. Give them time and facilities to exercise properly regardless of their financial abilities. Makes sure we have healthy food that tastes as good as the junk food if not better and make it affordable to everyone if not free. Make sure farmers are abundant and well taken care of. Get rid of GMO's and GMF's and take the chemical companies out of the food equation. There are other thoughts but I think that gives the top thoughts on health care. July 19 at 11:23am · Like Scott Keller 5th, hospitals should all be non-profit. I'm a big supporter of non-profits which are truly non-profit. I don't think that anyone's health or lack of it should be something someone can profit off of. July 19 at 11:25am · Like Scott Keller My root stance is "How do we make it the best possible health care system such that there is no cost to anyone (including no taxes) and everyone is as healthy as they can be without a huge government program." That should always be the goal. Even if we achieve what we think is the ideal now, the ideal of the future may become much higher once we get that current ideal. July 19 at 11:43am · Like John Bassist well, somebody is goin to have to pay for things somehow somewhere? July 19 at 1:45pm · Like John Bassist i mean its going to cost... the question is who.. i think universal single payer is pretty good... if we quit the fed bank and have congress print the money thats one place to put it into circulation. July 19 at 1:46pm · Like Scott Keller Well, we have to define cost too I think. And thinking forward, can health care be provided outside of the current economic system? Are there questions that are not being asked which would prompt some new solutions that have never been considered? July 19 at 2:14pm · Like John Bassist the ideal health care system would again be localized. The health system we have is impersonal, cold, its like being taken care of by a hive. Half the time they are trying to make you sicker or prolong your disease. The ideal health care situation is you are a member of a community of 1000 or 10 thousand people and its all handled right there. Everything is like that.. it all goes to poop when some giant headless government agency starts running things. Food, water, employment... you can see how these mega agencies ruin one thing after another. In this case the situation could not be more clear or more cut and dried. In essence the hive identifies sick people and then milks them for cash. It would rather keep them sick and paying than cure them. It can't even honestly be called a health system its a disease management industry. July 19 at 2:18pm · Like · 3 people Scott Keller That's right. At the same time I think some kind of coordination/communication hub would be good so that new techniques, discoveries, etc could be readily shared between doctors and patients around the world. Why should a cure be held secret or not be shared? If profit is out of the picture, then there would be no reason to hold back. July 19 at 2:48pm · Unlike · 2 people Scott Keller A network of sorts. July 19 at 2:48pm · Unlike · 1 person David Paul Reimer College students who are choosing their careers' may be smart enough to be doctors but they choose a career as a banker or lawyer because that's where the money is. We need to do more to promote doctors and nurses. Diet and hygiene should be taught at every age in school. Unhealthy foods should have the cost of health care built right into the cost of the "food". Soda, corn syrup and MSG should not be given to children under age... let's say 14. Oh and please get rid of animal factories. Great topic. July 19 at 8:00pm · Like · 1 person David Paul Reimer End the Fed, End for-profit insurance companies, free tuition for college students who want to be doctors or nurses. July 19 at 8:03pm · Like · 1 person Michielle Tubonjic Considering I am doing my pre-reqs for my RN, and plan to continue onto schooling to become a Physicians Assistant, I completely agree with david! Theres a shortfall of nurses, yet schools are very limited on seats for the RN program. I think that needs to change. July 19 at 8:39pm · Like · 1 person Magicstar Net Works Positions in the nursing programs are very limited, Michielle is right. I had to wait 3 years to get into mine. I applied in 1989, and did not get in until fall of 1992. Universal single payer is probably the best option to cover everyone regardless of income, charged on an ability to pay basis, sliding scale. Big pharma must be regulated as to how much % they can earn on drugs. The name brand/generic thing has to go out the window. Drug prices must be controlled. Doctors' fees must be limited. Hospital fees likewise. And big health care corporations must be regulated or thrown out of the picture entirely. They are monopolies, along with the insurance and big pharma, which control the pricing however they want it, and keep prices up - they have been allowed to dominate the health care delivery systems, and treat people like slabs of meat, or numbers - instead of as individuals with value. There are many holistic treatments and medications which must be included in the total health care picture - many herbal, homeopathic, aromatherapy, massage, accupuncture, and many other treatments which are valid and should be part of that big picture. People are not slabs of meat, every individual is different. Treatments should focus on curing the CAUSE of the illness, NOT the symptom! Herbal and holistic medicines and treatments should not be disdained, but should be a much valued part of health care everywhere. Herbal remedies are the medicine of the future!!! And we should be investing in research about herbs as medicine! Vegetarian, organic, lots of raw fruits and vegetables, no gmo's, no processed meats, no chemicals, no pesticides!!!! This sort of a diet should not only be encouraged, but the whole food system needs to change. One way it can become this way is by encouraging small farmers, and by keeping food local. A healthy, organic, vegetarian diet with no chemicals or pesticides can cure mostly everything that is wrong with people - many chronic illnesses are directly a result of eating poison. And we need to get rid of fluoride completely everywhere, and also anything else that is contaminating our water, such as fracking, pesticide and chemical runoffs. While we are it, let's also get rid of the crap they are spraying on us daily, which is barium and aluminum - it is causing many chronic illnesses and is ruining our food supply and water. GMO's have got to be gotten rid of entirely. Creating transgenetic food crops that have novel proteins that our bodies do not recognize is dangerous and will kill us all - and will also destroy our food supply and our seed diversity by contaminating all our plants with genetically modified plant material. GMO crops dna material enters the bacteria in our gut, and turns our digestive systems into bt toxin pesticide factories - bt thuringiesis is a dangerous pesticide and causes terrible damage and even death. I do like the community health care delivery idea. And these community health care facilities should be local. We need to be focusing more on keeping people independent and living in their own homes instead of in nursing care facilities. There should be more $$ directed towards home care and support for caregivers. There should be financial support for ANYONE who cares for someone who needs help to stay at home The 40 hour work week, robot life, time clock punching way of life is a failure for everybody except for the big corporations who make lots of money enslaving us all. It is stressful, makes us all sick, and wrecks families. We have no lives at all except for to be slaves. We have to figure out a way for workers to be able to 1) work doing what they really like to do and earn enough to live on by doing it (more aptitude testing and fitting education to a person's real interests and skills) and 2) be able to choose what hours and how many they are able and want to work, so people can be happier and feel more fulfilled with their lives. July 20 at 10:02am · Like · 1 person Cathy Heyworth Harris Scott's official stances on the issues will be on the official website when it launches and on the volunteering working forum, as download templates. It will be a series of papers on "the issues" and they are being called "The Red, White and Blue Papers: Scott Keller's Position on Issues". Scott is currently devoting his time to finalizing these position papers, and Michelle, thanks for the question, and thank you to everyone who participated in this thread. Cathy, Campaign Manager - PS keep this thread going :) July 20 at 11:54am · Like |
![]() |
|
| prometheuspan@hotmail.com | Jul 26 2011, 01:16 AM Post #2 |
![]()
Vulcan
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Travis Boucher I've always wondered about your take on government run health care. Obama-care really put me on the fence, but the way Obama tried to push it, I found myself slipping down the right side of it. Not enough room to finish what I have to say here, so please read below: June 1 at 8:05pm · Like · Travis Boucher What really confuses me is why the right is totally against government run health care and the left is so for it. They both have legitimate arguments for their causes, but where does that leave a moderate like me? People who know me know me as a 5' 7" 240lb. over-eater. Is my high blood pressure, cholesterol, and diabetic issues YOUR problem? Under Obama care, It would have been. But the Conservative right says that this is a free country. If I want to be the short, fat, over-eating health problem plagued person I am, then go for it. Problem is, there are a lot of people who need health care who live perfectly healthy lifestyles, (E.G. cancer patients, children, ect.) but cannot afford it. Am I alone in my belief that if a person wants to chain smoke him/herself to death-, to go ahead; just don't make it my problem? But if you've done nothing to deserve the health problems you're currently facing, you've got a government you can turn to? In a nutshell, I'm for government run health care-, with parameters. If one wants government run health care, he/she has to follow a strict set of guide lines set up by health care professionals. But if one doesn't want to abide by those parameters, he/she doesn't HAVE to. Just pay for your own medical expenses. What's your take, Scott? June 1 at 8:18pm · Like Scott Keller The right and the left fight each other needlessly. There are better solutions I think than government run and for-profit-run health care. In both scenarios money is at the root, rather than the health of the patient or the health of the nation and money should never be a reason for providing basic needs such as this and money should never be a reason for not getting the care required. Hospitals and care centers should be non-profits I believe and even alternative-approach non-profits. I also believe that the AMA needs to have its role reduced or changed. I think some kind of reverse compensation system needs to be in place as well, where doctors and anyone related to health care would be compensated for keeping people well and off of drugs rather than the other way around. Whenever there is money involved, there is a conflict of interest. http://www.keepourhospitalshealthy.org/the-issue/non-profit-vs-for-profit-hospitals/ Bureaucrats need to be kept out of the process. I've been imagining a non-profit oversight and coordination organization made up of doctors, nurses, and patients from both the traditional approach fields and the homeopathic/natural approach fields. A truthful and open evaluation of every treatment currently practiced needs to be conducted to find out what works and what doesn't. This is just one small set of ideas, but the main point is that we need to have a goal to create or convert to a system that works for the people, rather than profit-seekers and where costs are reduced or handled in different ways so that everyone has equal access to the system. There, perhaps, could be incentives put in that encourage people to live healthier lives as well. So many things tie together - the economy, that people work so many hours for little to no real progress, that it's difficult to find healthy food that tastes good, that it's difficult to find time to exercise sometimes, the poor state of our educational system, etc. We can't JUST focus on health care. We need to address each factor that affects it. Much health care should be handled locally and perhaps coordinated and information shared through something like the organization I mentioned above. June 2 at 9:54am · Unlike · 3 people Travis Boucher Point well taken, Scott. That's an alternative view that I never knew existed, but am glad for. I know it's beating a dead horse now, but I can't help but to wonder if Rick Scott (Florida's governor) would have been able to buy his way to the governor's mansion if your plan would have been initiated a few years ago! It upsets me to no end that people line their pockets off of other people's misery. Like our governor! (Who b.t.w. I did NOT vote for!) June 2 at 3:01pm · Like John Bassist "What really confuses me is why the right is totally against government run health care and the left is so for it." simply put, there is an agenda, the way they cram the agenda is to create a yin and yang version of it and then argue over which of the two versions will run. We are given a choice between pepsi and coke; a choice between a hydra with two heads, trying to trick us as if it can argue with itself. Thats all theater. the confusion ends when you realize that everything either side says is an argument against the other side because thats what fuels the drama of what would otherwise be tearfully boring. Its all theater. There is one economic party with two political mask faces. they argue like that because its a put on. June 2 at 5:18pm · Like · 1 person John Bassist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u0GJdNu1Ds June 2 at 5:29pm · Like · 1 person John Bassist "People forget Forget they're hiding." and i watch and look right through ..lol June 2 at 5:37pm · Like · 1 person |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| « Previous Topic · Health Care · Next Topic » |
| Theme: Zeta Original | Track Topic · E-mail Topic |
10:17 AM Jul 11
|
Found at Zathyus Networks Resources
Hosted for free by ZetaBoards · Privacy Policy






![]]( http://z2.ifrm.com/10713/198/0/f5015787/pipright.png)



10:17 AM Jul 11