| Final 7...; After Jamie's blindside... | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 4 2011, 09:26 PM (54 Views) | |
| Brobst | Aug 4 2011, 09:26 PM Post #1 |
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HERE'S SOME CONFESSIONAL TOPICS FOR YA . . . 1) How positive are you that you know everything going on within the Koryak tribe? 2) Do you feel like it's a downward slide from here or an uphill climb to the end? 3) Rate your chances of winning this game from here at the Final 7. Percentage-wise....from 1% to 100%. 4) Rate your fellow opponents' chances of winning this game percentage-wise as well. |
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| Frank | Aug 5 2011, 06:46 AM Post #2 |
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I will answer my questions in a couple of hours. For now I really want to post this. I hope it is ok to post things of this nature in my confessional. Jamie: (Hope this is ok to post in my confessional. Although it is not answering a question from Brobst, this is important for me to have in here. I had to get this off my chest.) I think my confessional is a good place to post my thoughts about last night and answer a message from Jamie since I did not get to answer it before the chain of events last night. I know eventually he will read the confessionals so it is important to me that he understands what happened. Jamie and I actually really got along great. I did trust him from the time of the merge. I did not get as close to him right off as I did with Ace and Hunter, but over time we did get close. I know he trusted me completely and I do feel bad for what happened. I thought about Hunter’s proposal yesterday over and over again. At one point, I was wishing I didn’t even have to go to the challenge or the vote. I finally made my decision that it was not the time to vote Jamie out. For one thing, I didn’t want to and I did not feel it was a good move. I did want to be open with Hunter and I did want his true thoughts on the subject. I sent him the following a couple of hours before the challenge: “Hey Hunter, I got your last message, but my computer froze up or rather the site did right after that. It is really getting bad about doing that. I don't think it is my computer. I don't know about voting Jamie off tonight. I'm not sure it is a good idea. Here's why. Regardless of how Jamie is I do not think he would target you or me or even Dave at least not at this point. I think for now he would vote with us not against us. On the other hand, any of the girls would vote us out given the chance at the drop of a hat. If we vote Jamie off now then we are voting off someone we don't really need to worry about now. However, we do need to worry about the girls. Their agenda is to get themselves to the final three regardless of what they have to do to us. Please let me know your thoughts about this.” Hunter has been the only one that has said he would go all the way to the very end with me even if that means Final Two. Ace has suggested that, but will not commit. My feeling was that Ace and Jamie probably would take me to the Final Three, but if things went beyond that I would be out. Hunter suggested that Ace was telling lies to one or both of us because he had also talked about Final Three with him. I felt for my own benefit that I needed to remain with Hunter since he was able to commit to me. So basically right before the challenge I changed my mind to vote for Jamie because I knew how important it was to Hunter. I saw it as a way to completely seal the alliance I had with him. After the vote, I felt incredibly bad. I really just wanted to log off and not think about the game anymore. I felt I had completely betrayed Jamie and even Ace. Basically, I went against everything I really have believed in since the beginning of the game. I know that some people I have voted for in the past have trusted me, but in this case I felt I had broken my word where I truly had said that I would not vote someone out. On top of that, I felt I had broken things with Ace. Ace is definitely one of my very favorite people in this game. I think that I can salvage that though since we did talk after the vote and I think all we be ok with him. So here is Jamie’s message and the answer I was working on to send: From Jamie: "I agree with you dude. 100%. That's why I brought it up and asked you about it because I wasn't sure how you would feel in that situation. I absolutely feel like those lines don't exist and yeah they haven't since our first merge when we had the big twist. That's why I asked if that's how you felt when it came to the final 5. I always said that I would want final 5 with the guys we have now, I never wanted coach and i always thought he would go at number 6. But obviously he is gone now so that's not an issue. It's about getting rid of these girls and getting that final 5 like we planned. Clearly though it's an issue that is touchy with that final 5, becuse obviously you guys had a bit more time away form Ace and I for about a week so I don't know if any agreements were made and/or if you have talked that over with Hunter and/or Dave. If you have, then that's fine, I'm not going to try and break any agreements up and that's entirely up to you if you want to tell me or not. But I've always been down with you dude, all the way. I promised you I think after 2 or 3 days in the merge I wouldn't write your name down, and I'm a man of my word. It won't happen. And I have no idea if you see this as way too early to suggest something like this, and feel free to shove this away or ignore it until next week or whatever you feel the need to do. But I definitelly wanna go final 3 with you and Ace. That would be my preference at this point of the game. I've thought that for a while and just didn't know when to bring it up. And I honestly feel so safe with you guys, that really, even if you have already made a pact with the others and you chose to stick with that, that wouldn't bother me as to make final 5 like we planned in day 1 is a massive achievement I would be proud of. I would ask though that you keep me until at least final 4 and be up front with me about it Love to hear your thoughts dude, really would. Be as open and FRANK (get it? ) with me as you feel the need to be. I'm a big boy, and would rather be told the truth." **************************************************************** Reply (never got to send): "Jamie, As soon as the merge happened, those lines did not exist for me anymore. As you know, my old tribe was falling apart at the seams. I actually developed close connections with all of you the first few hours of the merge except Coach who I did not hear from. I have gotten to know you better as time has gone by. We have been talking more and more, and about deeper subjects than just drinking JD :-) I do agree with you that the girls do have to go because I know they have another agenda than what we have. The time during the swap really had no impact on me as far as you and Ace go. I imagine I did get somewhat closer to Hunter and Dave during that period of time and did have somewhat of an alliance with them. It always bothered me though that Deena and Crystal seem to have also become part of that alliance, or actually that was a side alliance that Dave was big on having. He actually got pretty irritated with me cause I was not big on the idea. I’m still not since I feel that alliance still continues to a point. It really means a lot that you would ask me to be a part of a final three alliance with Ace. The only thing that kind of hinders that is that Hunter and I are close as well. So let me think about things and get back to you. Frank" |
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| Frank | Aug 5 2011, 11:40 AM Post #3 |
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I feel pretty aware of what is going on within the Koryak tribe. I feel it is pretty easy to read. I think there are different agendas going around, but I think they are becoming more solidified within two groups. I feel that what Deena was calling the Baikal 5 is about to become the Baikal 3. Baikal 5 is who pulled the blindside against Jamie last night and yes I was part of it although I hate to admit it. However, the best thing now for me is just to move on and pick up the pieces. It strongly looks like Hunter and I will move over to Ace and Jill. That will leave Dave with Deena and Crystal which I think is where he has been for quite some time now anyway. He refuses to work with Ace and I say all the more power to him. I don’t care what he does really. He has always let me know where my place is. He really irritated me last night by thanking me for what I did for HIM. I did not do anything for HIM!!! And then he made matters worse by immediately trying to jump in and start saying crap about Ace. I think the plan yesterday came from Dave, possibly with some help from Deena and Crystal. I think Hunter was more of a messenger to me. I think Dave made Hunter paranoid in regards to Jamie and Ace. I’m not completely sure about the downward slide or uphill climb to the end. I first was going to answer that as an uphill climb, but in re-reading the question I think you mean is it going to be hard (uphill climb) or easy (downward slide) to the end. I will answer it that way. I think it is going to be a downward slide to the end meaning that I feel it will be fairly easy to continue on to the final three. I feel very good about working with Hunter and Ace. They are the two I have been closest too and trusted the most since the merge. That is the alliance I have wanted for quite some time. Although I really hate what happened to Jamie I think it was a rather rude awakening or something like that which made us all realize that we needed to depend on each other more. Wow, it’s really hard to rate my chances of winning the game since there are always so many possible twists. I think my chances of going to the final three are around 97%. My chances of winning I will rate as 87%. I’m not sure how many votes I would get from the jury. I think one of my big problems there is that I have been somewhat of an outsider due to the collapse of my original tribe. I have stayed in the middle a lot. I do think I have played an excellent game as far as people trusting me. I think I have done an excellent job as far as communication goes. I think I have followed the advice of: “Don't take anyone in this game for granted. You never know how things could play out.” How those things play out as far as jury votes go is really hard to say. The trust issue becomes rather blurry when I think that I had a hand in most everyone’s eviction from the game so far. Of course, the others did as well. That is one of the reasons why I rating the people who I think will be in the final with the same percentage rating. As time goes by, I feel these percentages will change and the outcome will become clearer. I will rate my fellow opponent’s chances of winning the game percentage-wise as: Crystal: 25% Deena: 30% Dave: 20% Ace: 87% Hunter: 87% Jill: 40% |
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| Brobst | Aug 5 2011, 01:25 PM Post #4 |
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It's your space to post whatever you wish. Main reasons I ask questions at all is just to get the ball rolling. |
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| Frank | Aug 5 2011, 06:02 PM Post #5 |
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Ok, that's great news, but I do like the questions you ask as well. They get me thinking about things I might not otherwise think about. That's a good thing. |
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| Frank | Aug 5 2011, 08:33 PM Post #6 |
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Winning this game would be totally awesome, but if I don't win I sure cannot complain. I have never played this game or anything like it before. I feel that it is absolutely incredible that I am in the top 7 of 32 people who started this game. I guess I could be blindsided at any time, but at this point I would still be very proud of my game. I kind of thought I would go far in the game and I have regardless of what happens now. So I feel I have already reached my goal and everything after this is just gravy in a way. Of course, I want to go much further. Anyone in my postion right now would want to go further. I truly think I will. I truly think I will make it to the Final Three and that is an accomplisment big time!!! I feel I have played an awesome social game and really I have just been myself. I don't feel I have been false. I feel that the game of Survivor is so much about communication, alliances, trust, and the like. Challenges are very important, but in the real game of Survivor people who win the challenges every time end up being a target. I have always felt that the social game is so important. That really is the reason why I have loved shows like Survivor and Big Brother so much....the social interaction. My bachelors degree was in journalism and sociology so I guess it make sense that games with social interaction would attract me. However, one thing I have really learned from this game is how hard it really is to vote someone out who you feel you have made a connection with. It's really not even easy to vote someone out who you just kind of knew and maybe even hated at the time. Regardless of how much of a badass someone comes across as I think that when you see your name come up it hurts. When you see a bunch of votes come up it hurts a whole lot more. It's not as easy as it seems on TV. |
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| Frank | Aug 6 2011, 09:06 AM Post #7 |
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I was thinking how much the game has changed just over the last couple of days. It no longer seems to follow gender lines or old tribes. I guess the landscape has changed a lot with the departures of Coach and Jamie. They were both two of the guys and part of the old Katorga. We do still have representatives of each of the old original tribes though. I think that is pretty cool. I wonder sometimes if the members of old Baikal are cheering me on or hating me
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| Frank | Aug 7 2011, 12:35 AM Post #8 |
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Although I feel pretty good and safe for tomorrow night, I think part of the game is knowing that there is always a chance you can suffer a blindside such as Coach and Jamie did the last two weeks. Scout pretty much knew she was going so that was not a blindside. Coach felt very safe and Jamie felt extremely safe, but as we know their fate had been decided before they knew it. Jamie's comment on the vote when he was blindsided has to be classic "bring on the vote Brobst my man!" He had absolutely no idea what that vote would mean to him. It's still a vote I hated to be involved in since I really did like Jamie a lot. I'm still not sure if that was a good move on my part. Only time will tell. I have no idea what it means about the 25 people coming back for a party. Looking back at this game and its twists, it feels something could be up. Only time will tell on that one too. I think it may mean we just tell what position they were voted out on. That would not be bad. I know there is a section of tribal councils missing from the swap councils. I have noticed that and have been wondering why we cannot get to those anymore. That had more to do with not being able to see final comments which I did want to see, but now I am wondering if that is a part we need to reconstruct for the challenge. I know I can piece it back together since I keep everything. So tomorrow will tell if I go from top 7 to top 6. I really think I will. I really hope I will. |
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| Brobst | Aug 7 2011, 03:01 AM Post #9 |
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Y'all are killing me. Check the additions on ~ The Mountain ~ http://z13.invisionfree.com/Siberia_Game_B...0&#entry1124925 |
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| Frank | Aug 7 2011, 02:15 PM Post #10 |
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LOL.......I just read your comment on the Mountain You can't blame us for being paranoid
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| Jamie | Aug 23 2011, 09:45 AM Post #11 |
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Dude, this does clear up a lot. And I thank you for posting this. Especially the reply to my message I never got :lol: you did what you did and it's over now. I let my own stupid cockiness and clouded vision assume I was safe, and it bit me on the ass bad. Maybe my first clue shoud've been when Hunter picked me off in that tribal name challenge? :lol: But you were right, I was loyal to you guys all the way to that final 5. To me then it was game on and may the best man win. Would've made it even more sweet to take the victory. What's done is done now! But still appreciate the long entry for me dude! |
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