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Final 2
Topic Started: May 30 2013, 02:32 AM (42 Views)
Vincent
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This is the first time I made the finals without messie dragging me by his challenge wins. I drug Anthony here! I kid. He had to win quite a bit to get himself here as well. But anyway he's been my number 1 since the beginning and for us to make it to the end together, against all odds, with all 3 of them up against us at 5 and to just strongarm our way here was so amazing and such a great story for us, and I never distrusted him or got mad or bothered by him at any point, and even if I don't end up getting my first win tomorrow, I'll be happy knowing he got it and that we made it here together.

I'm not going to write this just yet but I have to spin what I actually did into something that sounds fucking epic and amazing. I've been burnt the fuck out for a while. I don't know why I keep playing these. Well actually I know why I played this. I got basically guilted into it after turning down the first one. But I did have a lot of fun here and genuinely enjoyed a lot of people, and it's given me an excuse to blow off Caramoan which is nice. I got to be a challenge whore! I guess we'll find out soon enough if I'm just amazing now or if this cast was really just horrendous.

Here's the part where I try to predict jury votes and then end up saying idk for almost everyone:

Vito - idk
Michael - idk
Kay - was burned by Anthony so I'm going to say me but maybe he'll charm her or maybe she's forgiven him already
Clemenza - idk
Carlo - could go either way. Could respect me for wanting him out and succeeding, or could vote Anthony for trying to push it off him and onto Sonny
Tessio - probably Anthony lol I bashed his game to all hell yesterday oops #notsorry
Sonny - hopefully me because of the relationship he built with me the last two days. I told him when people were targeting him and when I was targeting him and wasn't, he kept me out of the duel because of that. He might vote Anthony since I didn't take him to F2 though since I know Bz always does that.

So I'm going to give it 1-1 and either I had no relationship with most of those people so I can say idk but they'll go to Anthony or else it's really a tossup!! I think a lot of the detractors to my game can also be applied to Anthony's since we did pretty much everything together. I would have won my way here regardless cause I could have won all those duels even better than Anthony did but that's not what they want to hear. I was lazy as shit in PMs but I'm going to spin that to say that I didn't bullshit people, which for the most part was true. I seriously can not lay on all the bullshit that those 2 did I mean that was so gross. I should go take a shot for everytime the both of them combined said "we're going to be friends for life i love you so much" just ick. But I won't because I have to write shit for this at some point and sleep and I already have a headache.

But I really don't think Anthony was emotionally attached to Vito, MIchael, or Clemenza anyway so maybe that won't factor in even though he's more charming and witty than me because I hate PMing and I don't know my Godfather shit. But I'll make it work I suppose.

I'm seriously dreading writing this and I just wrote this long rambly thing anyway I might as well have done a shit ass opening statement and then fixed it. Oh well some other time. Oh I have a gushy PM from Anthony in my inbox. I would have loved that like yesterday but it seems really phony and sounds literally exactly like all his fallen comrades lol. Am I too cynical of a human? I had those yesterday too and neither of them replied to my replies so fuck them.
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Yeah okay whatever fuck this I'm doing it tomorrow. But basically I'm going to keep it short and sweet. I could hash out my entire game but so much of it is similar to Anthony's. What I need to do is focus on how I was different, and my style of play and not making a million bs alliances and doing enough to stay protected but not too much so that people don't feel betrayed.

Also I just knocked on wood for this but I think I'm going to win because my first win at ORGY would be when I could only post sloth or Kristen Bell gifs and no words.
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Super rough draft I will probably fix later.

[align=center]First off I want to say thanks to Fagan and Harrison and all the other cohosts for putting together this fantastic game. This format was really unique and I don't know if either of us would be here if it wasn't the way it was, but it was great to play and challenge myself in this way. And thanks to the entire cast, you made this really fun and I really enjoyed playing with all of you. Also apologies in advance this is going to suck because I can't find gifs or not gigantic stills of myself but whatever.

I'm actually going to keep this really short because I could rehash out my entire game, and so much of it would be so similar to Anthony's. We were a pair, we had the same alliances, side alliances (Kay, Mary, one we thought was real with Tessio) and we played the entire endgame together so I feel that would be really redundant and not help you with your decision tonight so instead I'm just going to focus on what separates me from Anthony.

While Anthony and I had the same opinions on people, the same route with the same people we wanted to take to the end. I stayed a bit more UTR about it for a few reasons. I didn't want to be a target at any point. I tried to keep up relationships with everyone to the point where they didn't want me eliminated, but also didn't feel super attached to me when I had to make a hit on them. It was a difficult balance to make but for me, honesty is the best policy, which is shocking to mob members I know. I didn't want to get this reputation as a liar, as someone who was playing everyone. I stayed in the middle, I didn't want anyone to think that I sucked at messaging or at the game, but at the same time I didn't want to be perceived as this huge threat like Sonny was either, because I knew that wouldn't get me to the end. Now obviously being too honest is a fault as well, I didn't message every single person that was my target and tell them they were leaving every single round. I went to a few other people like Kay and Michael and said let's make a deal but didn't make the situation very elaborate, and that was on purpose. I didn't push very hard for the boot order to be one thing or another. There were certain things I expressed a preference on, like Kay staying as long as she did. But there was a certain point around the time that Mary left, where I knew that my alliance of 5 with Anthony, Tessio, Sonny, and Carlo was going to be the final 5. Knowing that, the boot order of the rest of the group was not something I really put too much focus on affecting because it didn't matter and it was going to make me look like a huge controlling threat who needed to go otherwise.

Once we got down to the final 5, I knew I was in a decent spot because the format allowed for Anthony and I to at least force a duel at the very worst, and that ended up happening both times. I separated myself from Anthony however by basically stealing Sonny's loyalty from him. I think Anthony was less sure of Sonny because of all his close relationships, and I think he knew that Carlo would be more likely to target me than Sonny would. Anthony came to me that day pushing for Sonny to be the main target instead of just the backup to Carlo like we talked about, and I put my foot down and said absolutely not, we can get rid of Sonny the next round. And then I promised Sonny I'd be totally honest with him, and I told him he might be leaving and that Anthony (and also Tessio but he was lying to me and Sonny knew this) was targeting him that night, and I won Sonny over to my side that night. I chose Carlo as my target because he was the most threatening to me. The one I was least close to and also the one that could most easily give me a run in challenges. Had Anthony lost this night, I was going to work Sonny knowing he had 100% of my loyalty that round to split up the pair of Carlo/Tessio and then try to go to the finals with whichever one stayed.

The final 4 was tricky especially since I strained my relationship with Tessio. I didn't realize until I was writing this how smart he was to try and break us up because I didn't realize how much power a pair could have so late in the game in that format. To my credit though I think Tessio would have targeted me in that situation regardless of if we became best friends again or not. Anthony and I discussed whether it was better to have Tessio or Sonny in the final 3. I think we agreed on this actually but my personal preference was to have Sonny there, for my own reasons that in a final 3 of Anthony and Sonny, I believe both would have taken me? I can't speak for Sonny but I think knowing he could take probably anyone he wanted he might have taken me out of my endgame loyalty and Anthony's endgame disloyalty. And he voted Anthony into the duel for that reason as well. That also might have been because I was a favorite to beat Tessio in a challenge, but I personally would have sent myself in if I were Sonny because I would at least take the chance at getting rid of the person most likely to win the final challenge, since that is what he needed to do to win the game, with any combination of the 3 of us. You can't be afraid to send someone in just because they might win, especially in his case where he had nothing to lose. But he left me out, and I believe that is a credit to my game. I think Tessio may not have taken me to the final 2 if he won, since he had been targeting me ever since it got down to just our group. However Anthony would not be here had Tessio placed his "the" in the right place, and had Tessio won I would have put much effort into mending our relationship and taken him to the F2 had I won.

I think that's about it. I'd love to hear your questions and I'm ready for them and good luck to Anthony tonight, you've been a great friend and a great ally in this game and it's a total honor to have made it here with you.

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Vincent, May 30 2013
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Also I just knocked on wood for this but I think I'm going to win because my first win at ORGY would be when I could only post sloth or Kristen Bell gifs and no words.

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I wish you luck tonight, my son. May God grant you victory. Or may he cast you into the pits of hell for eternal damnation if he wants you to lose. It's a crapshoot, really.
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[align=center]First off I want to say thanks to Fagan and Harrison and all the other cohosts for putting together this fantastic game. This format was really unique and I don't know if either of us would be here if it wasn't the way it was, but it was great to play and challenge myself in this way. And thanks to the entire cast, you made this really fun and I really enjoyed playing with all of you. Also apologies in advance this is going to suck because I can't find gifs or not gigantic stills of myself but whatever.

I'm actually not going to rehash out my entire game, because so much of it would be so similar to Anthony's. We were a pair, we had the same alliances, side alliances (Kay, Mary, one we thought was real with Tessio) and we played the entire endgame together so I feel that would be really redundant and not help you with your decision tonight so instead I'm just going to focus on what separates me from Anthony.

While Anthony and I had the same opinions on people, the same route with the same people we wanted to take to the end, I attempted to stay a bit more under the radar about it. I didn't want to be a target at any point before we got down to our group at the final 5. I tried to keep up relationships with everyone to the point where they didn't want me eliminated, but also didn't feel super attached to me when I had to make a hit on them. It was a difficult balance to make but for me, honesty is the best policy. Obviously you can't play completely honestly and expect to make it anywhere, but for the most part when I knew I was protected I didn't make a lot of extra unnecessary deals like maybe Anthony did. I didn't want to get this reputation as a liar, as someone who was playing everyone. I stayed in the middle, I didn't want anyone to think that I sucked at messaging or at the game, but at the same time I didn't want to be perceived as this huge threat like Sonny was either, because I knew that wouldn't get me to the end. I didn't push very hard for the boot order before final 5 to be one thing or another. There were certain things I expressed a preference on, like Kay staying as long as she did. But there was a certain point around the time that Mary left, where I knew that my alliance of 5 with Anthony, Tessio, Sonny, and Carlo was going to be the final 5. Knowing that, the boot order of the rest of the group was not something I really put too much focus on affecting because it didn't matter and it was going to make me look like a huge controlling threat who needed to go otherwise.

Once we got down to the final 5, I knew I was in a decent spot because the format allowed for Anthony and I to at least force a duel at the very worst, and the very worst ended up happening because the other 3 guys ganged up on the two of us. I separated myself from Anthony however by basically stealing Sonny's loyalty from him. I think Anthony was less sure of Sonny because of all his close relationships, and I think he knew that Carlo would be more likely to target me than Sonny would. Anthony came to me that day pushing for Sonny to be the main target instead of just the backup to Carlo like we talked about, and I put my foot down and said absolutely not, we can get rid of Sonny the next round. And then I promised Sonny I'd be totally honest with him, and I told him he might be leaving and that Anthony (and also Tessio but he was lying to me and Sonny knew this) was targeting him that night, and I won Sonny over to my side that night. I chose Carlo as my target because he was the most threatening to me. The one I was least close to and also the one that could most easily give me a run in challenges and I'm sure he would have been targeting me as well had I not won Don. Had Anthony lost this night, I was going to work Sonny knowing he had 100% of my loyalty that round to split up the pair of Carlo/Tessio and then try to go to the finals with whichever one stayed.

The final 4 was tricky especially since I strained my relationship with Tessio that day, and that was emotional on my part. Like I said I didn't really go out of my way to make fake deals so when it happened to me I was a bit stunned and should have left the board instead of confronting him in the way I did. I didn't realize until I was writing this how smart he was to try and break us up because I didn't realize how much power a pair could have so late in the game in that format. To my credit though I think Tessio would have targeted me in that situation regardless of if we became best friends again or not. Anthony and I discussed whether it was better to have Tessio or Sonny in the final 3. I think we may have agreed on this actually but my preference and the way we ended up going was to have Sonny there, for my own reasons that in a final 3 of Anthony and Sonny, I believe I had a better chance of both guys taking me if I didn't pull out a win, where in a final 3 with Tessio and Anthony there was a good chance Tessio votes me out. I surmised that because of the loyalty I had gained from Sonny the day before and knowing he could have taken anyone, he'd be more likely to take me. I believe he voted Anthony into the duel for that reason as well. That also might have been because I was a favorite to beat Tessio in a challenge, but I personally would have sent myself in if I were Sonny because I would at least take the chance at getting rid of the person most likely to win the final challenge, since that is what he needed to do to win the game, with any combination of the 3 of us. You can't be afraid to send someone in just because they might win, especially in his case where he had nothing to lose. But he left me out, and I believe that is a credit to my game. Anthony was out the door that night had Tessio not put his "the" in the wrong place, and in that situation I would have reworked my relationship with Tessio, with us both knowing our chances were better against the other and tried to go to the final 2 with him.

Overall I tried to keep myself protected as best I could, whether it be through challenges or allies or the format. I tried to stay connected while not being an overly connected threat and when it got to the endgame I had backup plans for if Anthony were to have lost any of his duels so that I wouldn't just follow him right out.

I think that's about it. I'd love to hear your questions and I'm ready for them and good luck to Anthony tonight, you've been a great friend and a great ally in this game and it's a total honor to have made it here with you.

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