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Why the Wii is Good; I'm gonna prove why the Wii is good.
Topic Started: Jan 15 2011, 12:59 PM (805 Views)
MrFordDoesNotLikeU
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Now I well and shall prove why the wii is fantastic.
1. The wii has plenty of good and great game's, ports or exclusive's.
2. It single handed change the entire game indursty.
3. It does not lack any games
4. ps3 and 360 stole from the wii.
5. okay maybe its online sucks but at least its free :D
6. HD doesn't mean games are good and gameplay > graphics.


So does anyone got anything to argue with?
 
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Now I well and shall prove why the wii is fantastic.1. The wii has plenty of good and great game's, ports or exclusive's.2. It single handed change the entire game indursty.3. It does not lack any games4. ps3 and 360 stole from the wii.5. okay maybe its online sucks but at least its free 6. HD doesn't mean games are good and gameplay > graphics.So does anyone got anything to argue with?


Not that I honestly care about the console wars (they all carry their own pros and cons)but without competition, the industry would not be what it is today :smile:

1. It does have quite a few notable titles, most of which being Nintendo 1st party games, but when it comes down to it, too many of the games are nothing beyond shovel-ware.

2. Fair point, it did bring the whole "Motion Control" fad into the industry

3. Far from the truth as there is a large amount of multiplatform games that skip on the Wii

4. Not necessarily, the idea of motion control has been around for A LONG TIME. This could be argued in many different forms; Kinect ripped off EyeToy, EyeToy Play and EyeToy Sports were ripped off by Nintendo as Wii Play and Wii Sports, etc.

5. PS3's online is also free, although there is a paid option. Online quality depends on your connection, but the Wii's online infrastructure could be improved.

6. It's true that graphics don't make the game, but while technology moves on, and a new console is released, it is customary to utilize that new tech, and not stick with older versions. HD is beneficial as almost everything is headed that way. Since HD is more or less the standard now, it is expected that there should be HD.

I'm also surprised that Nintendo didn't opt for DVD/CD playback for the Wii, I'm sure it could add more to their impressive sales.
Edited by crazyfooinc, Jan 15 2011, 04:44 PM.
 
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Now I well and shall prove why the wii is fantastic.


Let me begin by pointing out that I love the Wii. It is tied with PC and PS2 for one of my most played gaming systems. That said...

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1. The wii has plenty of good and great game's, ports or exclusive's.


Yes, it does, including FE: Radiant Dawn, which is one of my favorite games. Still, most of its exclusives are just trying to cash in on Wiimote Waggling and have no real substance to them. Those titles that are noteworthy are very, very good, but most Wii games are too reliant on a single gimmick that isn't even very good from a gaming standpoint.

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2. It single handed change the entire game indursty.


In a sense, yes. However, I'm generally of the opinion that the change it brought on hasn't been used very well. Shooting games, like Metroid Prime 3 and Resident Evil 4 made good use of motion controls, but many games, as I said above, rely simply on "OMG SWING THE WIIMOTE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND HOPE YOU WIN!" It has potential, but few have actually realized it.

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3. It does not lack any games


Completely untrue. There's all sorts of games that aren't available on the Wii. Basically any FPS game avoids it like the plague, and there's plenty of other games that passed it up in favor of XBox and PS3.

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4. ps3 and 360 stole from the wii.


This is debatable. Peripherals using motion control or other similar features have existed on past consoles, but it wasn't until Wii that they became mainstream and popular. In any case, I'd hesitate to say it's even possible to steal something like motion controls. It's just a concept, and each console has implemented it differently. Saying that 360 and PS3 stole motion controls is like saying NES stole controllers from the first gaming system.

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5. okay maybe its online sucks but at least its free


Just because it's free doesn't excuse it. If it sucks, it sucks. Anyway, PS3 has free online as well.

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6. HD doesn't mean games are good and gameplay > graphics.


HD doesn't make games good, but having HD graphics > not having HD graphics. Also, lol@ bringing up gameplay in an argument about Wii. Most of Wii gameplay is gimmicky and unresponsive. There are a few games that do it right, but the vast majority of them have inferior graphics as well as abysmal gameplay.
 
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MrFordDoesNotLikeU
Jan 15 2011, 12:59 PM
Now I well and shall prove why the wii is fantastic.
1. The wii has plenty of good and great game's, ports or exclusive's.
2. It single handed change the entire game indursty.
3. It does not lack any games
4. ps3 and 360 stole from the wii.
5. okay maybe its online sucks but at least its free :D
6. HD doesn't mean games are good and gameplay > graphics.


So does anyone got anything to argue with?
I love the wii too. Its just, I think I have to express some of the downsides of the wii.

Let's start with your question 1.

You say plenty. I know few that meet "great" game requirements. Care to give me a few games?

2. That I agree on.

3. Oh yes it does. What site are we on now? Starfox galaxies my friend. They are missing Starfox. And a few other games...

4. In your perspective, yes. In fact, to a customer's perspective, yes. To the business, no. I mean, is it right for me to say that goldenye for the wii was stolen? I mean, the original Goldeneye was strictly for the N64. Now, it can be for the Xbox 360, Ps3, etc. I can't say that because those companies have legal rights to do so.

5. Online....:(

6. Agreed.
 
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1. This is true. Zelda, Mario, Brawl, Metroid, Goldeneye, Resident Evil, etc.
2. Also true, this is because it made motion control mainstream and popular
3. It doesn't, but it does lack a good amount of great 3rd party titles.
4. 360, no. PS3 did. Look at the controllers for god's sake.
5. So is the PS3's
6. True, but better hardware means that dev's have more to work with.
 
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360, did to steel the wii motion controller -_-, The wii is good just people need to learn to stop hacking (which nintendo is cutting down on) and give some games a chance.
 
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As I said, I love the games on the Wii that are actually good. Problem is, there's lots that aren't. Also, as I said before, you can't steal motion control from the Wii any more than any gaming console can steal controllers from the Odyssey. It was the first home gaming console, and thus the first to use a controller. The Wiimote is a controller, so are you saying that Wii stole from the Odyssey?
 
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If the design scheme and the appearance are uncanny to their competitor then yes, I will say they stole the idea.

Also, how did the x-box steal Wii's motion controler? If anything they stole Sony's eyetoy.
 
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Now I well and shall prove why the wii is fantastic.1. The wii has plenty of good and great game's, ports or exclusive's.2. It single handed change the entire game indursty.3. It does not lack any games4. ps3 and 360 stole from the wii.5. okay maybe its online sucks but at least its free 6. HD doesn't mean games are good and gameplay > graphics.So does anyone got anything to argue with?
Stole i'm sorry but Microsoft had control of halo so no stealing from the 360.. I have to admit on it's own the Wii is a good console the problem is it was not ment for the general gaming community it was ment for the Family.
 
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If the design scheme and the appearance are uncanny to their competitor then yes, I will say they stole the idea.


The XBox Controller was uncannily similar to the Gamecube controller, which was uncannily similar to the PS2 controller. Four buttons on the right, D-Pad, two sticks, etc. There were a few design differences, but still, same basic setup. The idea wasn't stolen any more than controller designs have been stolen; rather, Sony cashed in on a design they knew worked, just like other consoles did when the Playstation controller did well.
 
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I have openly stated before that the 360 controller is a rip off the PS1/2/3 controller and I also noted that the Wii's classic controller is a right rip off the PS controller (regardless of if you are using the pro version or not). I'm not going all fan boy and going 'omq evry1 is stealingz from Nintendo' but the point of the post here is that Playstation out right stole the controller design scheme from Nintendo, it is universially accepted, Sony even mentioned it in their 2010 E3 speech.
 
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I don't understand what you mean by "Stole i'm sorry but Microsoft had control of halo so no stealing from the 360"

Also it may be more of a family console but hasn't all consoles try doing that? both ps3 and 360 are on there way....
 
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I'm not going all fan boy and going 'omq evry1 is stealingz from Nintendo' but the point of the post here is that Playstation out right stole the controller design scheme from Nintendo, it is universially accepted, Sony even mentioned it in their 2010 E3 speech.


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Steal - to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.


By your own words, Sony admitted to using the Wii's controller design, so by definition, they didn't steal it. This may seem like a trivial technicality, but I only bring it up to drive home my following point: Any industry is built around doing what works.

During the Industrial Revolution when the textile industry moved to factories, hand-made cloth went under. Factories made consistently better cloth for cheaper and in less time. When other factories started springing up, it wasn't stealing; it was accepting innovation and allowing their industry to evolve.

The same goes for the gaming industry. Sony did not steal the controller design. Rather, they embraced an innovation which had been proven effective, gave credit where it was due, and did their part in advancing the gaming industry as a whole. Whether this whole motion control fad will pan out into something substantial, I don't know, but saying that they stole the controller design is incorrect, both technically and in a more general sense.
 
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Okay, but we can all agree that the wii has plenty of good game,s etc etc.
 
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Okay, but we can all agree that the wii has plenty of good game,s etc etc.



Yes, while it does have a majority of absolute shovelware, there are many redeeming games out there for Wii :nod:
 
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