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Final Tribal Council; Clara vs. Dr. Donovan
Topic Started: Jun 28 2012, 11:34 AM (3,987 Views)
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Stefan the Magnificent,19:56:34 - June 28th
2012

CLARA, we had some good sex chats at the start and I guess at the merge I began concentrating on too many people so our communication fell through and I was always closer to Stacey, Doc and Ivanka than to you but I still think you're amazing and a riot. I thought your game was very impressive and I loved more than anything your attitude when trying to get Rico out at the Quinlan boot. My respect for you as a player grew exponentially after that and I do believe you placed yourself very well in the tribe and played a very effective subtle game. My question to you is as follows:

Had you been in the scenario that you won the final immunity (forget about the fact that you "threw" it), who do you think you would have had a better shot at winning against and why?

Thanks guys, again you both deserve the moniker "the Magnificent" far more than I do and you both are deserving winners. Playing with you was amazing and I loved this game with every fiber of my being.

I also haven't read everyone's questions so if they have been asked already simply respond with "STFU you stupid fuck"

hey stef B)
yeah i felt you kinda slipping away post-merge but i've always been close and loyal to you and you've been a good friend throughout, i'm glad you feel the same way

youve been a cowboy this game and you fucked the Bermuda Triangle straight in the ass, 10th place is a travesty for that game

had i won final immunity i would have picked doc because i feel like beata has a lot of buddies, it wasnt smart of her to write her fallen comrades like that, i wrote mine the way i did on purpose, i could have easily been much nicer in it, but i didnt wanna get viewed as a jury threat.. beata made herself one with that

maybe thats why doc took me over her as well, plus i think she has a lot of connections, a victory would've been possible against her though, certainly, it always is

plus if i picked her i would lose doc's vote lmao and possibly the respect of my tribe

plus beata is a crazy bitch like me, doc plays a more serious style
contrasts make things much clearer

i think my chances against both of them are the same, i would have picked doc too

it's an honor you deem me worthy of such a moniker, you know im an honest fuck and i will say it again, you were magnificent as fuck, props

I love this game very deeply too, it's been a pleasure and a ride from the start
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I believe this is the best final 2 the game could have had.

Doc, I understand what you did what you did and had no ill effects of losing the duel to Quinlan and the reason I gave you my half of the power stealer was because I knew you were the most likely one to get the second half. I never had anything against you, and you played well. You made it to the end despite having a huge target on your back and that is commendable. Yes we left our talking late, but I enjoyed talking to you and I wanted to work with you the day I was booted.

You were a beast and you dominated this game. Some may not like your social game, but talking to you, I saw a Doc that had plans, and knew what he was going to do to get to the end. You, alone, deserve to win based on your challenge skills, because what is the point of challenges if you don't get recognition for them?

Clara, out of all the girls, you were the one that I talked to the most. I found the others boring (they found me boring too), but I just couldn't talk to them. They were stale. I enjoyed talking to you the times we talked. You were fun to talk to the little times we spoke.

I'm going to give you a chance to win my vote, because at the moment it's for Doc. I want you to blow me away.

Name one key move you made to get you to where you are and the reasons behind that move. I'm sick, so not going to read this thread, so sorry if you have already answered something like that.

And another question. Something you will enjoy. Have I had a threesome over the last 24 hours? Yes or no.

Also, folks, thank the hosts for a wonderful game.
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What's up guys? I've gotta get going real soon so I wanna get this out of the way first but no rush. I won't make you guys work to hard, that's everyone else's job.

First I want to say congrats to both of you. I personally think you were both amazing albeit in different ways and I have nothing but respect and love for you both. I think all in all, this game was incredibly played by almost everyone and had a ton of good and deserving players and you two making it to the finals is very impressive.

DOC, you were a close friend of mine for a lot of the game and your strategic mind is something I seriously admire a ton. People had a lot of hate for you for your social game or a cockiness but I always saw it as a schtick and I sorta loved you for it. Playing with you and bouncing ideas off you was a pleasure and though you are no doubt an excellent player, you were also a hell of a friend. I guess people have given you crap for your social game and relying on challenges but I do find it difficult to hold it against you that you just raped everyone in competitions. You worked your ass off and I know it but for the hell of it, my question is as follows:

What was your backup plan assuming you weren't immune for essentially the F9 or so on?

Sorry I forgot I have another one: Did you actually believe Rico when he said he was voting for me or were you saving Clara regardless?


Thank you so much, Stefan. You don't know how much that means to me. You were really one of the great friends and players I've encountered in one of these.

Final 9 -> Conga Line. That round was basically going to depend on whoever would win the Power Challenge. I played the advantage and went to the second round automatically. So I would have done the same thing and just spamboosted the threads of everyone I thought could send me out of line at the time. So mostly Quinlan, Glen and Beata. Actually that's what I did and I wasn't immune that round, I just made sure that Clara or I would win.


F8 -> Little Sister - I already talked about that in my answer to Beata, but I think me/Clara/Ivanka would have been voting together. So it really would have depended on whether there would have been a sixth voter or not. If not, basically just do what I needed to make sure that Clara and Ivanka would vote with me. If there was a sixth voter, pray to God that Quinlan wouldn't give up his spot and if he did, I would have had to rely on Zzy's word. It would have been a very risky round.


F7 -> Arena - Well I wasn't immune and I did not visit the Arena.

F6 -> Big Brother - I had my idol, that's the only reason why I changed the format to BB. Because Clara had a veto and I had the idol so we were both safe. Had we not been in possession of those items, I would have changed the format to Arena and I was kind of banking on the fact that being perceived as harder to beat would keep me out of it. But even if I was sent in, I at least had a chance to save myself.

F5 -> Little Sister - Pretty much as above. I wanted to keep Arena for the end and having an idol made me want to waste the rounds without safeguards.

F4 -> Survivor - It depends on who would have won. Had it been Zzy, I definitely would have been in a pickle. That's why I wanted Man Overboard that round, but I got beat to the punch.

F3 -> Survivor - Clara said that she would have picked me too, so knowing that Clara and I would pick each other was good enough for me. Had Beata won, I would have been fucked, but my odds were still pretty good.


As for your second question, I told you during the 15 minute period that I was going to pick Clara and that was before Rico said anything to me. He had no impact on my decision. Pretending he did would be a coward move from me. For two consecutive nights, I had to make a very difficult choice between two great allies and both times I thought that the least I could do is to face the decision like a man. With you vs Stacey, I could have saved Ivanka and let Clara decide between you two. And with you vs Clara, I could have also saved Ivanka and let someone choose between you two, but all three of you were formidable allies and I thought you deserved better from me. So yes, I chose Clara knowing it would lead to your elimination. I am sorry. I saved you over Stacey because I thought that with you we could make up for the loss and go to the end with our four, but after a second failure on our part, I saved Clara because I figured that you and I were just too threatening together and I needed to escape that stigma. It killed me, but I had to...

Thank you Stefan <3
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Glen,20:04:41 - June 28th
2012


Clara - Omg, like Beata said, maybe I'm just inherently a 12 year old but you cracked me the fuck up from start to finish. I always laughed at your drug & sex-crazed persona, and in a game like this where some folks are just GAMEBOT GAMEBOT GAMEBOT it was refreshing as hell. I wish we could have forged something together, and the only reason I didn't try was because I voted you out and I knew you knew I did. I was going to ask if you've raped Ivanka yet, but you already answered that. I think one of the biggest moves of your game, that even DoDo didn't do, was giving up your immunity for voting rights at the Little Sister F8. If you had not done that, then regardless of who won the PoV challenge we would've sent Ivanka's ass out of here. My question for you is, why did you switch to a format that guaranteed a F2 over a F3 last night?


lol thanks so much for the compliments glen :wub: ^_^
i really like the term doclara lol, its like some powerful shit that bring fear into people like a spartacus or some shit
i always liked talking to you too, you were never boring, smooth, to the point and you never fed me no mawfucking bullshit either, im sure we would have gotten aligned in a different scenario

im so glad you like my craziness and my pussy, compliments like these never get old and make me wet

yeah i knew you voted for me but i didnt care, you were in the opposing alliance so it was only logical, i cant blame you for that.. and like i said you never lied or talked shit so ive never been mad for even second for that, glad you recognize the ivanka move babe

i switched it for two reasons, survivor would basically give me immunity at F4 (doc wins, zzy goes, i win, zzy goes, zzy/beata win, doc goes)

aaand if it was going to be a f3 i dont think id be able to win, doc and me would probably split votes and zzy/beata would win, looks like you were rooting for them for one :P
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Doc - You are a challenge monster, holy shit! I understand why people find you douchey but the only time I did was after I came back from Arena having cast 2 votes against you. Understandable, lol, and I was impressed that you chose not to use your HoH to exact revenge against me; some folks would have played stupidly and done the opposite. I think one of the biggest moves of your game was when you SOMEHOW got Carl to gift you the Power Stealer after Nursey sent him to die. Maybe it was just Carl being senile, but it really decided the rest of the game, and some kudos has to go to you for that. Without that precious gift, would you have been screwed at F8, or did you have something else up your sleeve at the time? Also, did you ever consider giving up your immunity for voting rights after stealing said power?


As always, thank you for being such a class act, Glen. There aren't many people like you in this world. You're like the anti-me I guess? :lol:

I am sorry if I was a douche to you especially after your return from purgatory. How completely unnecessary lol. :wacko:


I just read Carl's speech about how I got the Power Stealer and I kind of always thought he gave me that thing because he wanted to see it used, but I still think that our giant novels sent to each other right before his boot contributed to his decision IF ONLY because I was being very blunt and absolute. He wanted the big item to be used and I showed him that I was going to use it and it was going to make a difference. So it wasn't just all luck. I think Carl was a great guy once you figured out how to approach him.

I already answered that question and it's very possible that I would have been screwed at 8. Hell, if I felt safe, I wouldn't have used such a powerful item. I can't really give you an absolute answer because Ivanka had voting rights and I don't know how that would have worked. At 8, I did not consider losing my immunity for a second. Clara and I had a plan beforehand in case we were both HoH and only one of us needed to concede their immunity. So Clara gave me the sign when she asked Crunch when she could drop her immunity. So there was really no reason for me to do it either. If anything, Ivanka could have been tempted to vote me out in there. Maybe she would have, maybe not, but I wasn't going to risk it when Clara giving it up was all I needed, with me having the tiebreaker.

However, I was totally going to give up my immunity at 5 if I could play my idol. I never really trusted Zzy and she was more threatening than you, so I would have had a vote and immunity and I could have offered you to tie it on her, which would have been your only way out. I was blindsided when Crunch said that I couldn't use my idol and vote. And that's when I knew you were going home.

Thanks again for being such a nice guy. :D
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Carl,20:25:47 - June 28th
2012
I believe this is the best final 2 the game could have had.

Doc, I understand what you did what you did and had no ill effects of losing the duel to Quinlan and the reason I gave you my half of the power stealer was because I knew you were the most likely one to get the second half. I never had anything against you, and you played well. You made it to the end despite having a huge target on your back and that is commendable. Yes we left our talking late, but I enjoyed talking to you and I wanted to work with you the day I was booted.

You were a beast and you dominated this game. Some may not like your social game, but talking to you, I saw a Doc that had plans, and knew what he was going to do to get to the end. You, alone, deserve to win based on your challenge skills, because what is the point of challenges if you don't get recognition for them?

I really think that my biggest regret was not trying with you earlier. I think we could have seen eye-to-eye and of all the offers I got from Vacationers at the time, yours was definitely the one I saw as most genuine. It's sad that it had to end abruptly, but shit happens.

The nice words are very appreciated! Thank you!
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Don't let him fool you Carl is talking major smack about you and Clara in the jury house. Elektra too.
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Carl,20:25:47 - June 28th
2012
I believe this is the best final 2 the game could have had.

Clara, out of all the girls, you were the one that I talked to the most. I found the others boring (they found me boring too), but I just couldn't talk to them. They were stale. I enjoyed talking to you the times we talked. You were fun to talk to the little times we spoke.

I'm going to give you a chance to win my vote, because at the moment it's for Doc. I want you to blow me away.

Name one key move you made to get you to where you are and the reasons behind that move. I'm sick, so not going to read this thread, so sorry if you have already answered something like that.

And another question. Something you will enjoy. Have I had a threesome over the last 24 hours? Yes or no.

Also, folks, thank the hosts for a wonderful game.

thanks babe, i think this is the most romantic f2 ever too :wub:

we never talked much but when we did it was pleasant, i respected your challenge skills and i felt like you were aligned rather well, plus you killed your wife of 50 years for fucks sake that was some serious shit

i couldnt name just ONE big move, but there were some that were of crucial importance

-keeping ivanka over stacey; stacey was close to stefan and a powerful couple was broken
-keeping doc over ivanka; ivanka was my dearest friend at the time but doc was going to take me straight to the end and if not he was a perfect shield
-giving up immunity for a vote at little sister; ivanka would have been voted out by zzy/beata had i not done this, plus i tried to have beata/zzy see that it would've been a 2-2 tie which doc would break (had ivanka voted rico as expected), so i tried to force them to side with us, which would cause a rift between zzy/beata and quinlan/glen
-changing the format to survivor at F4; basically giving me immunity at F4 (doc/clara wins, zzy goes; zzy/beata wins, doc goes) + it made it a F2 which actually gave me a chance.. me and doc would split votes and beata would win

hooooly fuck carlton you fucked two hoes at the same time? i wanna hear that shit did they blow you at the same time and did you have the holes lined up? tell me tell meeeee
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thanks clara

Good answers

I wont go into details but will give you a teaser.

It was brilliant
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Alright you guys! I know some of you have gone through paragraphs of writing shit but I don't want a paragraph. All I want are two words (one positive, one negative) to describe the game play of everyone (including yourselves) who made the Final 13 in a list. (So pretty much like: Joe: strategic, insulting...)

Congratulations to both of you for getting to the Finals and may the best player win! Good luck!
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Carl,21:03:00 - June 28th
2012
thanks clara

Good answers

I wont go into details but will give you a teaser.

It was brilliant

my nipples are hard you cant do this to me
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Quinlan,21:03:58 - June 28th
2012
Alright you guys! I know some of you have gone through paragraphs of writing shit but I don't want a paragraph. All I want are two words (one positive, one negative) to describe the game play of everyone (including yourselves) who made the Final 13 in a list. (So pretty much like: Joe: strategic, insulting...)

Congratulations to both of you for getting to the Finals and may the best player win! Good luck!

Quinlan - (sexy/roach) :wub:
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I didn't expect to reunite with you this soon :(
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ffs, Stacey, you had your time, go away.
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Joe is not strategic at all he is a fag
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Lieutenant Malarkey,21:11:30 - June 28th
2012
ffs, Stacey, you had your time, go away.

What about Rico? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: host biased
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I didn't expect to reunite with you this soon :(
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