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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 27 2018, 09:41 PM (365 Views) | |
| bazaDred | Jan 27 2018, 09:41 PM Post #1 |
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ming 4 poor trent 5 average matip 4 poor VVD 5 average moron 4 poor wjnny 5 average can 3 piss poor made barry look fast Ox 4 poor mane 4 poor firmino 6 ok salah 6 ok Klopp 3 how long before he sorts this shite defense out ????? 6 years since he last won a trophy he needs to start to take a long hard look at himself and the players he keeps relying on who are simply not up for it . |
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| John_Boy | Jan 27 2018, 09:44 PM Post #2 |
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Wasting your time baz. Not worth rating |
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| Red pippin | Jan 27 2018, 09:56 PM Post #3 |
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mignolet 2 never had a save to make A-Arnold 3 worst I have seen the lad play and he has had a couple of iffy games Matip 4 as with the rest of the defence there is no cohesion and plays like an individual, VVD 4 see Matip moreno 4 slightly better than A-A wjnny 4 midfield were fairly non existent till the captain came on can 4 not his best game for sure Ox 4 his last two games have been pretty awful Mane 4 the man is not the same player, is he out of position? Firmino 5 extra point for his goal but off the pace and looked lost, missing a pen however close it was is unforgivable salah 5 see Firmino Ings 5 trier but is that enough? Henderson 6 bit of momentum when he came on but too little too late Milner 3 crossing really poor, had little to offer |
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| red machine | Jan 27 2018, 10:01 PM Post #4 |
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motm for lfc...var...without him it would have been worse!! |
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| Aussiepool | Jan 27 2018, 10:20 PM Post #5 |
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What ratings could anyone possibly give after that lame , lazy and blunt performance ? When that goal was overturned by the VAR showed what a dreadful GK , Mignolet really is. Lived a charmed life the last 4 plus Seasons , should pinch himself to see if he’s been awake this entire time. TAA , I will cut him some slack cause he’s only 19, someone needs to teach this lad in training how how to wrap his foot around the ball when attempting to make a cross. Then again 32 year old, Milner and 25 year old, Chamberlain did no better . Do those two even know how to execute a proper corner kick ? VVD the £ 75 mil who we were waiting as a Messiah for the defense alongside Matip just react so slow with loose balls or short quick passes in the box. The midfield trio were diabolical. Painfully slow ball control and quick release of the ball, their short game passing was easy pickings to a team defending that. They just held their positions and intercepted them all. Front three had nothing to work with. Nothing was released long or quick to then to run on too. Nice chip goal by Bobby , then he missed a PK again. Salah with a cool finish for his goal but he looked frustrated all game and Mane is back on his funk period. Useless touch from him. Ings was honest and hustled. Henderson the same. Milner was aggravating everyone with his piss poor corners and crosses. Now to Klopp. Really ? Instead of jumping up and down , clenching your fists, and yelling at the crowd to cheer on the players when you are 3-0 up in random games, how about showing some of that today when you are 3-1 down at the half ? At some point he is he going to be held responsible for yet another garbage defensive and GK display like today. What do they do in training, run defensive drills , who coaches their keepers ? Fundamental, basic stuff that even a third rate manager at a Championship club would need to focus on. under him , Liverpool can be crazy erratic but breathtaking brilliant in attack especially when they go on the counter or when they are dedicated to press their opponents. When it comes to game management , showing consistency and playing efficient football to get a result when it really matters , then all the struggles begin. No need to tell us again that the club won’t spend money this window. We all know that - your bosses have zero intention to give you the money to compete straight up with the rival teams who are committed to challenge for trophies. But all that should not stop you to be a better manager. Edited by Aussiepool, Jan 27 2018, 10:25 PM.
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| DickWhiteog | Jan 27 2018, 10:31 PM Post #6 |
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Only one person to blame unfortunately and that is Jurgen. He is the one F8cking about with the defence . We all know that Matip, Mignolet and Moreno are pure Sh*te , so why on earth does he rotate his potatoes , I mean defenders. Its no wonder we concede from every shot , its like picking a team from available lads in the park , it s my turn to pick first !!. Another cup surrender and our two best chances of silverware are out of the window. What was the point of beating Everton to then field that rag arse defence and the 3 stooges again in midfield . JK s choices are beyond my comprehension , they really are - it seems that he feels as long as he has the front 3 on , it does not matter what combination of sh*te plays behind them , they will dig us out. Well P*ssed off with that effort from our manager . |
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| Aussiepool | Jan 27 2018, 10:39 PM Post #7 |
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It’s like taboo here to say something or criticize the manager . Klopp is Rodgers without the stupid egomaniacal interviews. Both clueless how to coach a stready group of defenders and GKs. Shocking what we saw today. He needs to take a serious look at himself and figure this shit out. |
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| the antler | Jan 27 2018, 11:58 PM Post #8 |
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Top post Aussie, spot on with every bit of it. |
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| Hollywood | Jan 28 2018, 03:20 AM Post #9 |
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Our best defender was dropped for this cup match. His likely reward would have been no further FA Cup games anyway (if we had won), as klopp fields his bogus wannabes in the champions league, cups etc. I said it when Benitez fucked about with rotation, and I still say it yet again today. Fuck around with your lineup, and you are asking for the systems and player combinations that have built up iin a decent run to eventually break down. That's what we are seeing to an extent. VVD playing his 3rd match for us paired up with Moreno, who hasn't started in months. Klavan essentially went unbeaten, and is now likely our 4th choice centre back. Matips is last. Is Lovren injured still? Just don't agree with Klopps selections at the best of times. Another different back 4 to start a match, plus a goalie change. Captain fucking no hands. Where is the continuity and team play supposed to come in? Answer : it doesn't. The minimum required today was Gomez and Robbo with Matip and VVD. As it was, they looked exactly like what it was. 4 lads playing together for the first time. Matips fucking shit. Something very Djimi Fucking Traore about his back healed clearance attempt. Something ironic about our defenders just falling to bits with Moreno on the park. I don't want to start on Minge bag, but if ever a keeper looks bereft of an ounce of self confidence, then look no further than this lads game today. Saved by the VAR for I honestly know not what. Our replacement is sadly more of a fucking horror story. Begs the time honoured question, " just how shit can this ward lad fucking be?" While I could perhaps lace into Can for his effort, as well as others, midfielders do not expect the circus behind them, that was our defending today. Considering what these plonkers make in a week, let alone a fucking year, they can't defend to stop shit. Our keepers are fucking last. We pay Klopp large to sort the shit out, but clearly, he is not addressing some fundamental issues in the side. Tinkering with rotation is asking for it, and in our case, simply exacerbates the problems we all know we have. But not Klopp, apparently. We now have two keepers who have had 4 or 5 absolutely shyte matches. VVD has looked worth about 75P, and Robbo can't get back in the side fast enough for me. Klopp better be reading the riot act, and shoving hair dryers up arses, to get the season back on track. What a fucking disappointment that was. Edited by Hollywood, Jan 28 2018, 03:54 AM.
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Platform 2015 "parks, if i want to say anything constructive i wont use this forum mate." A Classic Kop Talk Posting | |
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| Danny | Jan 28 2018, 07:17 AM Post #10 |
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Yes it's past the point of talking about problems we're faced with, some change is seriously needed. Rotation of players is partly OK providing the ones replacing the ones rested are of the same ability which clearly in our case they're not. As HW pointed out about the left back Robinson, our best player for the last 2-3 matches then rested for last nights game and replaced with our worst defender at the club. The back four don't need resting, last night all the back four should look at their game, for me TAA is not yet ready and i believe Lovren is a better bet than Matip in the middle, saying that i don't see why if Jurgen insists on swapping thing's about why he's not put Gomez in the middle to see how that one works. The midfield was a shamble's again, all three of them were a waste of time and pretty non existent. Midfield is the engine room of any team, the whole lot of them want replacing. WBA ran through them last night at will. I do wonder what Klopps relationship is with players, is he to close and everyone's best friend ? Players out there last night should hold their heads in shame at that performance, thank god the Six nations start next weekend where you'll ever only see 100 % determination from players |
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| red machine | Jan 28 2018, 07:57 AM Post #11 |
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zero for all of them..klop gets minus 20. last season lfc went out to wolves at the same round at anfield. hardly a one off is it. |
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| parks | Jan 28 2018, 08:25 AM Post #12 |
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Migs-1 woeful keeper. Gives zero confidence to the defence. Taa-3 not good enough defensively. Matip-5 covering full back and his own position. No leadership Vvd-5 must be wondering wtf did he join Moreno-1 woeful player. At fault for two goals, not a defensive thought in his head. Woeful end product as well. Get rid ASAP Can-4 was part of the unbeaten run. Two poor genes in a row. On his way ? Gini -3 offers nothing yet gets away with it as everyone likes to hammer can. Ox-4 offered nothing Mane-3 headless chicken Firmino-6 at least shows quality Salah -6 see firmino Klopp-4 migs, Moreno? Shocking players who constantly cost us games. |
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| John_Boy | Jan 28 2018, 09:23 AM Post #13 |
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Good points hw. Another Klopp special. brought it on ourselves. |
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| DickWhiteog | Jan 28 2018, 10:07 AM Post #14 |
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WBA had 4 shots on target yesterday and all went in , one was disallowed. I cannot remember the last time a Liverpool Goalkeeper made a decent save . |
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| parks | Jan 28 2018, 10:42 AM Post #15 |
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Mignolet is glued to his line. He could run across the Grand Canyon on a tight rope and wouldn’t come off. |
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| stevieg4ever | Jan 28 2018, 10:56 AM Post #16 |
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We can literally lose and win against any team we play. To concede 3 at home to West Brom is unforgivable. |
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| Hollywood | Jan 28 2018, 12:22 PM Post #17 |
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Clemence pen save moenchengladbach.... |
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Platform 2015 "parks, if i want to say anything constructive i wont use this forum mate." A Classic Kop Talk Posting | |
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| Yppohvek | Jan 28 2018, 12:31 PM Post #18 |
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I think we should do all we can to bring Leiva back. Free kicks on the edge of the box were far more preferable to letting sides walk in at will. Ease up on Alberto, he obviously suffers from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder which doesn't allow him to let a football touch his right foot. I wasn't convinced by the Man City game as most seem to have been, 4-1 up with 10 minutes to go,could and maybe should have ended in a draw. I think the footballing world can see what is needed at LFC, surely Herr Klopp can also and will address the issues when he is able. Enjoy the video recordings Herr Wagner? |
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| Red pippin | Jan 28 2018, 03:40 PM Post #19 |
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Klopp disrespected Wolves and I said so before that game, I don't think he did that yesterday as we do have injuries, It was a strange game and a surprise how poor we were but should have expected it after the debacle at Swansea. Klopp does not protect his back four, the contrast of the work put in against City by our midfield and the dreadful showing against WB was stark, but too many from the back to the front of the team didn't function whether they were taken by surprise by WB I don't know but we as a team looked very second best. we were very poor. , Edited by Red pippin, Jan 28 2018, 03:51 PM.
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| Red pippin | Jan 28 2018, 03:49 PM Post #20 |
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It is a strange one that Lucas was let go without replacing him, I have always been a fan of Lucas and do agree with you his interventions saved us many times, we don't have anyone protecting the defence, WB found it too easy. we need a proper DM and an attacking MF who can open defences, it goes without saying we need a new GK |
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| Hollywood | Jan 28 2018, 03:49 PM Post #21 |
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Clearly we need a new manager...... Salah is shyte, as is mane. Defensive problems being ignored VVD is a massive waste of coin Bobby too flimsy for English footy Shitty purchases like Robertson Our goalies -let's not venture there, shall we? Selling club.... Ultimately, owners who don't give a damn This the litany of echo we get to see after such miserable effort. That is Kop This in a nutshell. Not once have I seen...just a bad day at the office. 2 in row, it has to be said. That has me a little concerned a poor batch of results is at hand. I doubt Klopp can afford a runof 6-7 results with one or two wins. After beating city, which I agree was in someways fortuitous, our form has been bollox. |
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| the antler | Jan 28 2018, 07:15 PM Post #22 |
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If we had Keita now and he is as good as we hope, we would have had some bite in midfield, and protection for our defence. Along with Robertson, and a more experienced right back, plus a keeper. And we would have cruised it yesterday. That's seem like I'm asking a lot. I'm not. I'm just highlighting the obvious glaring deficiencies on display yesterday. Saying that, having a keeper would probably been enough to see us win that game. Honestly, it's that bad I'd almost prefer us to field 11 outfield players and not bother with a keeper. Such is the ridiculous lack of anything positive our keepers bring to the party. |
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| Aussiepool | Jan 28 2018, 08:46 PM Post #23 |
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Keita is not a sitting midfielder and if was to arrive in January then Can or Henderson would still continue to be the recognized DMs and offer whatever protection they could to that dopey defense and GK behind them. |
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| John_Boy | Jan 28 2018, 09:23 PM Post #24 |
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We still lack players needed in the spine of the team. Gk, cb, 2x combative mfs, striker |
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| ThePenkethPedant | Jan 28 2018, 11:32 PM Post #25 |
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N.B.: Robinson is at QPR- our player is ROBERTSON. Won't tell you again...( well, I might..) |
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