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Klopps signings good or bad ?
Topic Started: Jan 28 2018, 12:41 PM (111 Views)
bazaDred

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So all our managers should be judged on there signings and trophies won

Karius bad
matip average
klavan average
VVD jury out n/a
robertson good
wjnny average
Ox average
mane hit and miss
salah good
salanke early days

170 mill on this lot and only two players in my opinion have been worth there money so far although i think mane may just be struggling with form ,so thats 3 out of ten decent signings and 0 trophies at lfc and 0 trophies in 6 years for klopp. NOT GOOD ENOUGH .
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Bring on Tony Gallacher.
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bazaDred
Jan 28 2018, 12:41 PM
So all our managers should be judged on there signings and trophies won

Karius bad
matip average
klavan average
VVD jury out n/a
robertson good
wjnny average
Ox average
mane hit and miss
salah good
salanke early days

170 mill on this lot and only two players in my opinion have been worth there money so far although i think mane may just be struggling with form ,so thats 3 out of ten decent signings and 0 trophies at lfc and 0 trophies in 6 years for klopp. NOT GOOD ENOUGH .
Forgot Bobby. - excellent

2 weeks ago your report would have been greeted with disdain. Same players just went 18 undefeated.

2 defeats now half of them are Shyte.

For me, it's not about the quality of player all the time, but rather how the entire team gels,,and manages to overcome their own weakness, while exploiting those of the opposition.

Karius is crap. Klavan and Matip are adequate enough I aside that dominates possession.

As for Mane, Salah, Bobby and Robertaon, they have all been excellent, for the money spent. Ox and Gino have been far from crap in recent weeks.

What we saw yesterday was simply a dismal effort all around.
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When I consider how much people bayed for VVD signing, and how it was going to solidify our defence, it rather points out that most punters, including those on here, and those paid to spew it on tv, about spending big, actually know fuck all.

Take one look at the millions man city paid for their defence. They are all pretty shit, and I would not have on in the Liverpool side. Yet folk want our club spending more money.

It's more about the quality you buy. Then getting them to perform as a team.

I think our biggest issue to date has been the manager not settling on his best 11, and letting them stick together. He wants to do it as a squad, which will only lead to plenty of games were the side looks at odds with each other on the field. Like the last two.

Something to be said for playing your best 11 each week, and that is what I see our main competition doing each week. We have rather lost our way since Christmas, and I can only suggest the rotation of players hasn't helped.
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bazaDred
Jan 28 2018, 12:41 PM
So all our managers should be judged on there signings and trophies won

Karius bad
matip average
klavan average
VVD jury out n/a
robertson good
wjnny average
Ox average
mane hit and miss
salah good
salanke early days

170 mill on this lot and only two players in my opinion have been worth there money so far although i think mane may just be struggling with form ,so thats 3 out of ten decent signings and 0 trophies at lfc and 0 trophies in 6 years for klopp. NOT GOOD ENOUGH .
6 years? Klopps been here perhaps 3.

We haven't won the league in nearly 30 years. Cups along the way were a decent day out, but hardly reflective of any potential return to former glory. None of them. Saying otherwise, is delusional

Suggest a replacement manager since your inference is clear.....

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bazaDred

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Hollywood
Jan 28 2018, 04:16 PM
bazaDred
Jan 28 2018, 12:41 PM
So all our managers should be judged on there signings and trophies won

Karius bad
matip average
klavan average
VVD jury out n/a
robertson good
wjnny average
Ox average
mane hit and miss
salah good
salanke early days

170 mill on this lot and only two players in my opinion have been worth there money so far although i think mane may just be struggling with form ,so thats 3 out of ten decent signings and 0 trophies at lfc and 0 trophies in 6 years for klopp. NOT GOOD ENOUGH .
6 years? Klopps been here perhaps 3.

We haven't won the league in nearly 30 years. Cups along the way were a decent day out, but hardly reflective of any potential return to former glory. None of them. Saying otherwise, is delusional

Suggest a replacement manager since your inference is clear.....

Was bobby a klopp signing ??? i thought brod bought him ??? as for klopps six years with no trophy i wasnt saying it was at liverpool i just meant he had gone six years without winning a trophy .
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bazaDred
Jan 28 2018, 12:41 PM
So all our managers should be judged on there signings and trophies won

Karius bad
matip average
klavan average
VVD jury out n/a
robertson good
wjnny average
Ox average
mane hit and miss
salah good
salanke early days

170 mill on this lot and only two players in my opinion have been worth there money so far although i think mane may just be struggling with form ,so thats 3 out of ten decent signings and 0 trophies at lfc and 0 trophies in 6 years for klopp. NOT GOOD ENOUGH .
karius ..aweful

matip...average freebie

klavan..not good enough

vvd..potentialy the biggest waste of 75m ever..injured for a year yet still bought him.

robertson..looking good but expectation is his early form will disapear.

wjialdum...below average.disapears alot.

chamberlaine....a good player but fuctional rather than spectacular.

mane...showed good form ,enough to say he was a class player but now seems lazy and out of form.

salah..very good but will he stay or will he last.

solanke...worst striker ever to play for lfc.
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The Dentist signed Bobby , lets get facts straight .

Its one thing buying VVD , who is far ahead of any other CBs we have , its another to ask him to perform with players like Matip and Moreno , and hope he can carry two of them whilst helping out a rookie FB, with 3 CM s who have not got a clue .

Holly is right its no good buying quality to build a team, if you keep leaving the quality out and play the Crap too often, which is what we are doing. New players need a settled team to get used to not a f*cking revolving door of players .
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VVD wins everything in the air and he’s a CB that any other top team would want.

Would Hyypia yesterday be able to stop WBA scoring that many goals ? Doubt it , with that GK behind him, supporting cast of bumbling defenders and Emre Can a million miles always from protecting his back 4
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John_Boy

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We have deep-rooted issues. Need to start with the defensive setup including coaches.
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red machine
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maybe the conclusion is klops methods are not good enough.

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Defensively they are not.
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to elaborate on it aussie..there are a number of factors why klops methods may not be good enough.

Sure, people can say if he had better players etc..but every manager and team can say that too.

1. it is dependant on the oposing team rolling over to let lfc play the way they want to.

2.it is disrespectful to oposing teams to not think they have a game plan too that may be effective too.

3.rotation...far too often and needless alot of the time leading to poor team selection.

4.players can only run,chase ,harras for so long and they are unable to do it game after game for 90mins or more.

5.persisting with players that are error ridden.

6.no proper striker.

7.even lower teams can easily and regulary counter klops tactics.

8.no defensive midfielder in his team.

...just a few reasons but there are alot of other reasons too as to why klops methods are questionable to say the least.

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John_Boy

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Is anyone else concerned klopp can't seem to attract talented youths/proven players from the Bundesliga?

GH and rafa signed good players amongst numerous flops from their respective home leagues.

Why aren't we signing the likes of aubi Goretzka gotze Reus Lewandowski Muller sane pulisic etc etc
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Some good points rm
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