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| Camelot | Jan 31 2018, 04:16 PM Post #76 |
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The Scholes, Beckham, ......etc. era was the last of its kind, because they were all English players in a league which was still largely English, with a few exceptions. The league was already in a transition to becoming a majority foreign player/manager league, but these players were good enough to form the spine of a top, trophy winning team. Nowadays, the likes of Lewis Cook and Jake Livermore get to wear the England colours. You won't win silverware that way. The Spaniards are the main source of recruits now, with Germans starting to make their mark, on the field and behind the bench. Ten years on it might be different, but you won't win trophies by parking scouts on the terraces of the Championship clubs. |
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| Aussiepool | Jan 31 2018, 04:23 PM Post #77 |
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A team XI ,all English born young lads with potential , would get you relegated in the PL today. |
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| BnB | Jan 31 2018, 05:29 PM Post #78 |
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Haha great stuff CJ.When Suarez left, he was our most important player and we heavily relied on him. Coutinho is not on the same level as the biter and we were not reliant on him, as we proved when we won matches while he went on strike (fake injuries), earlier this season. Klopp has proved that he will get the right player in time. Obviously not ideal for us to not have a replacement for Phil, but I would prefer to wait, rather than get someone in who Klopp doesn't want. |
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| chalky the red | Jan 31 2018, 06:03 PM Post #79 |
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I certainly did notice the word " arguably ", but people didn't write your post ,, so would you make that argument , that the team containing Suarez etc was the best team in the league? |
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| BnB | Jan 31 2018, 06:09 PM Post #80 |
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After a few minutes thought, here is my 11 Pickford TAA Gomez Stones Maitland-Niles Loftus-Cheek Oxford Hughes Gray Solanke Sancho Probably give the relegation candidates a close run. |
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| chalky the red | Jan 31 2018, 09:09 PM Post #81 |
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Klopp is developing all the players at the club, he's a world renowned coach...for a reason. If he's not improving the players, then he's not doing his job. All the players have improved,, the evidence ... higher league finish. , |
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"There are no real gods , only those that believe gods are real" Unknown | |
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| Hollywood | Feb 1 2018, 06:24 AM Post #82 |
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Robbo is not English. My point was rather developing young players. Not sure what making up an English team and predicting their success is all about. I could do the same 3 or 4 times over with some of liverpools senior players in the past 25 years. Most of them, certainly not English. I care less where young talent comes from. The key being talent. I think you generalize too easily about how poor the standard is in Britain/England. I have seen an awful lot of young foreign shyte playing for Liverpool by comparison. We just bought a fine left back for a snip. Gomez will be excellent. Plenty of good examples of clubs who have promoted young British players. The truth is, our club was too busy scouring overseas rubbish to see them in our own back yard. Dele Ali anyone? From under our noses, players like Barclay and Rooney. Coleman? Too simplistic to suggest no good talent in England. What is simpler to suggest is nobody looking has been good enough to spot the right talent. Perhaps shopping in the wrong country to begin with. Edited by Hollywood, Feb 1 2018, 06:56 AM.
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Platform 2015 "parks, if i want to say anything constructive i wont use this forum mate." A Classic Kop Talk Posting | |
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| Hollywood | Feb 1 2018, 06:31 AM Post #83 |
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As would a similar team of Spanish, German French, born youngsters. What is your point? Developing 3 or more at Liverpool, a much different prospect, and a benefit to our club IMHO. England are easily in the top 10, if not 5, footballing nations of the world. An easy target because they do shit when it counts, but the fact remains. I will remind everyone, that our talentless nation just won world cups at u17 an u20 levels. Solanke one of the stars. Plenty of talent in Britain. Edited by Hollywood, Feb 1 2018, 06:55 AM.
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Platform 2015 "parks, if i want to say anything constructive i wont use this forum mate." A Classic Kop Talk Posting | |
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| Hollywood | Feb 1 2018, 07:00 AM Post #84 |
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The fact remains that the two most successful teams in all of British football, did so on the backs of managers who sort value in both developing young talent, and buying judiciously in the world transfer market. Man city in comparison with either side (as well as chelsea for that matter) can't compare. This is not to suggest they cannot, but so far, they are not even close to as great. Edited by Hollywood, Feb 1 2018, 07:01 AM.
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Platform 2015 "parks, if i want to say anything constructive i wont use this forum mate." A Classic Kop Talk Posting | |
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| Snigger | Feb 1 2018, 09:24 AM Post #85 |
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Exactly! Cheers
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THE ABOVE CONTRIBUTION IS SIMPLY AN OPINION. I AM NOT LOOKING TO BITTERLY ARGUE OR FALL OUT BUT RATHER MATURELY DEBATE MATTERS SHOULD IT DIFFER FROM YOURS FOOD IS HABIT FORMING !!! | |
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| Hollywood | Feb 1 2018, 12:54 PM Post #86 |
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Someone get out Dickie's crystal ball. Tell me how many European Cups City will win. Only 5 to go. They made a final yet? They need at least 14 years to match our league record. Oddly recall posting something very similar about United in 1995. Clearly not on Kop This. Ian Anderson |
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