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rating v spurs
Topic Started: Feb 4 2018, 06:40 PM (392 Views)
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
Karius 7 best game yet
robinson 7 good game
loveran 7 good
VVD 7 could of got an 8 only for the pen and it was a pen
trent 7 good
henderson 7 best game this season dont know why he went off
Can 4 terrible at fault for the first goal and shit all game
milner 6 ok
mane 7 best game for a while also dont know why he went off
firminho 4 terrible game flicks and tricks fck up
salah 8 class

klopp 5 terrible subs left our worst two performers on and took two of the best off
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karius gave a penalty away
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red machine
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overalll not good enough.If no top 4 the yes klop should walk away...but that will not happen yet.
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bazaDred

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Feb 4 2018, 06:47 PM
karius gave a penalty away
no he didnt there was no contact and kane was offside
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yes his rash judgement was to blame.useless
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bazaDred
Feb 4 2018, 06:49 PM
red machine
Feb 4 2018, 06:47 PM
karius gave a penalty away
no he didnt there was no contact and kane was offside
Kane is a diving, mouth breathing piece of shit. The lino had a tenner on him scoring today though, so he got a second chance.
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chalky the red

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Karius 7
Taa 7
Lovern 7
Van dyke 7
Robinson 7
Hendo 7
Can 5
Milner 6
Salah 8. ( what a player,, who thought we paid to much ?)
Firmino 4 ( unlike bobby)
Mane 5 ( looks out of form)

Subs .... meh!

Spurs deserved the point, they were the better team for large parts of the game.
We struggled to get out of our half at times,
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but salah will want away..best players get fed up putting in great effort for nothing..
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The ref cost us the game. Nil point for that .
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cannot blame the ref antler...what 2 pems in as many minutes..sheer panic from lfc..going nowhere with this brand of football.
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Fair result based on both teams performance and goal chances created. Doesn’t alter the fact that the refs just gave them the point with two absolute ridiculous PK calls. One was offside which only a blind bat assistant ref could of missed and the second one , Van Djik moved towards the ball unbeknowing that Lamela was going to run into him who would never had possession of the ball regardless and had his back to the goal. Stupid decision and costly.
Pochettino is a moron. Just said that both PKs were correct. Go pound sand

Karius 8. Yeah he looked nervous at times but he saved two one on ones and a PK.
TAA 6, bit like Gomez. Always tenacious and available but lapses of concentration in defense and clumsy last pass when in attack.
Robertson 7 steady all round game. He’s a solid but unspectacular player.
Lovren 7, good game but whoofed at the ball regardless if Kane got to it it from an offside position on the first PK.
VVD 7, won everything in the air , composed on the ball , organized the back 4 to get Spurs offside on numerous occasions but the refs screwed him over.
Henderson 6 , best of a poor midfield trio. Not sure why he got substituted. Maybe tired.
Milner 5 , not sure why he started but did nothing to stop Spurs trip dominate the center of the field
Can 5, bad timing to have a poor , nothing game. All midfielders are too similar in style and just struggle vs higher technical player in similar positions.
Mane 5, all exposiveness and instinct . His first touch is always too hard and he loses momentum. Rash in his final cross / pass
Firmino 5 , to say he looked tired is an understatement. Needs a rest but for who ?
Salah 9, Messiesque second goal from nothing. Freaking brilliant individualism. First a cool finish. Battled all 90 mins with no support. Priceless.

Oxlade , Wijnaldum see Milner and Can. Completely we’re bypassed.
Matip , no not really why he came on.

Klopp 7. Where do I fault him . Not sure to be honest. Team Took a quick lead , created enough to score a second. Then the central midfield got owned and Dpurs dominated so he correctly identified that and made early enough substitutions but with zero positive effect.
To say that Keita will improve that area is pretty damn obvious but he definitely needs to look into a proper passer and a composed player there as well.

Now he has a battle to hang on to 4 th. Tough 12 games to go. Just pray Salah remains amazing.

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The sad part is we are two, three at most players away from being the best thing in Europe. Pity.
THE ABOVE CONTRIBUTION IS SIMPLY AN OPINION. I AM NOT LOOKING TO BITTERLY ARGUE OR FALL OUT BUT RATHER MATURELY DEBATE MATTERS SHOULD IT DIFFER FROM YOURS

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Agree Snigs. Need a top class GK , one more central mid with Keita and another forward with an eye for goal.

Got the Couts money. Hope they spend it wisely. I actually think with more games , Van Djik will be an awesome presence in defense.
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bazaDred

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Feb 4 2018, 07:15 PM
The sad part is we are two, three at most players away from being the best thing in Europe. Pity.
thats been the case for about 25 years or so mate the owners do not invest enough to get them two or three great players so we are always playing for 4th like its the holy grail
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the antler
Feb 4 2018, 07:09 PM
The ref cost us the game. Nil point for that .
Actually you can. Jane was offside wasn't he? The linesman missed that.
And the second penalty was never a penalty.
So yes you can blame the ref.
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the antler
Feb 4 2018, 07:24 PM
the antler
Feb 4 2018, 07:09 PM
The ref cost us the game. Nil point for that .
Actually you can. Jane was offside wasn't he? The linesman missed that.
And the second penalty was never a penalty.
So yes you can blame the ref.
That's an interesting conversation Ant. :))
THE ABOVE CONTRIBUTION IS SIMPLY AN OPINION. I AM NOT LOOKING TO BITTERLY ARGUE OR FALL OUT BUT RATHER MATURELY DEBATE MATTERS SHOULD IT DIFFER FROM YOURS

FOOD IS HABIT FORMING !!!
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the antler
Feb 4 2018, 07:24 PM
the antler
Feb 4 2018, 07:09 PM
The ref cost us the game. Nil point for that .
Actually you can. Jane was offside wasn't he? The linesman missed that.
And the second penalty was never a penalty.
So yes you can blame the ref.
That's an interesting conversation Ant. :))
THE ABOVE CONTRIBUTION IS SIMPLY AN OPINION. I AM NOT LOOKING TO BITTERLY ARGUE OR FALL OUT BUT RATHER MATURELY DEBATE MATTERS SHOULD IT DIFFER FROM YOURS

FOOD IS HABIT FORMING !!!
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Feb 4 2018, 07:12 PM
Fair result based on both teams performance and goal chances created. Doesn’t alter the fact that the refs just gave them the point with two absolute ridiculous PK calls. One was offside which only a blind bat assistant ref could of missed and the second one , Van Djik moved towards the ball unbeknowing that Lamela was going to run into him who would never had possession of the ball regardless and had his back to the goal. Stupid decision and costly.
Pochettino is a moron. Just said that both PKs were correct. Go pound sand

Karius 8. Yeah he looked nervous at times but he saved two one on ones and a PK.
TAA 6, bit like Gomez. Always tenacious and available but lapses of concentration in defense and clumsy last pass when in attack.
Robertson 7 steady all round game. He’s a solid but unspectacular player.
Lovren 7, good game but whoofed at the ball regardless if Kane got to it it from an offside position on the first PK.
VVD 7, won everything in the air , composed on the ball , organized the back 4 to get Spurs offside on numerous occasions but the refs screwed him over.
Henderson 6 , best of a poor midfield trio. Not sure why he got substituted. Maybe tired.
Milner 5 , not sure why he started but did nothing to stop Spurs trip dominate the center of the field
Can 5, bad timing to have a poor , nothing game. All midfielders are too similar in style and just struggle vs higher technical player in similar positions.
Mane 5, all exposiveness and instinct . His first touch is always too hard and he loses momentum. Rash in his final cross / pass
Firmino 5 , to say he looked tired is an understatement. Needs a rest but for who ?
Salah 9, Messiesque second goal from nothing. Freaking brilliant individualism. First a cool finish. Battled all 90 mins with no support. Priceless.

Oxlade , Wijnaldum see Milner and Can. Completely we’re bypassed.
Matip , no not really why he came on.

Klopp 7. Where do I fault him . Not sure to be honest. Team Took a quick lead , created enough to score a second. Then the central midfield got owned and Dpurs dominated so he correctly identified that and made early enough substitutions but with zero positive effect.
To say that Keita will improve that area is pretty damn obvious but he definitely needs to look into a proper passer and a composed player there as well.

Now he has a battle to hang on to 4 th. Tough 12 games to go. Just pray Salah remains amazing.

hard to argue with you

i'd add we need a proper CM to sit beside keita next season,

2 new CB's to rotate/partner VVD

lovren should be fired from a cannon and matip reminds me of graham le saux - thinks he's intelligent

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2 new keepers

same shit different day
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I thought fouls were only given for deliberate acts . When VVD was about to clear the ball Lamela ran across him . There was no intent.

Kane was offside for the first pen , as he always is .

Karius poor punch cost us the lead, another GK error costs us , together with the fact that our substitutions all weakened the team , whereas Spurs got them back into the game.

Wino and Ox were sh*te when they came on and Matip created mayhem in our back 4 which up until his arrival had done well.

The starting 11 all did well but once the mids ran out of steam the back ups were simply not good enough .

Spurs actually deserved their point as they hammered us in the second half .

I thought the officials were incredibly biased right from the off with Dembele allowed to put his arms and elbows in faces , and hack from behind whenever he felt like it . TAA gets booked for a challenge similar to Davies challenge but nothing against the Spurs man.

Check out the video links of the linesman when he gets the referee to change his decision and give the last penalty - he actually punches the air in celebration.

If that is not bias then I do not know what is?
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Feb 4 2018, 07:15 PM
The sad part is we are two, three at most players away from being the best thing in Europe. Pity.
Which 3 players snigger?
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It is also about time something was done about the amount of diving the Spurs players do in the penalty area - Delle Alli being the worst culprit in the premier league as we speak.
Unless they were told to do so on the promise that they would get something - so many different players in one team diving.
Edited by DickWhiteog, Feb 4 2018, 09:18 PM.
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' Intent' as a prerequisite of a foul was removed from the Laws several years ago (now applies only for handball). This has subsequently produced the diving and simulation that we see today, as referees no longer have to consider whether any trip,kick or push is deliberate, just whether or not it happened...
Edited by ThePenkethPedant, Feb 5 2018, 12:17 AM.
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Feb 5 2018, 12:16 AM
' Intent' as a prerequisite of a foul was removed from the Laws several years ago (now applies only for handball). This has subsequently produced the diving and simulation that we see today, as referees no longer have to consider whether any trip,kick or push is deliberate, just whether or not it happened...
Well done Penketh, always there to set the record straight. :)
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Feb 5 2018, 12:16 AM
' Intent' as a prerequisite of a foul was removed from the Laws several years ago (now applies only for handball). This has subsequently produced the diving and simulation that we see today, as referees no longer have to consider whether any trip,kick or push is deliberate, just whether or not it happened...
That plus the changes in the offside law have made football a mockery and left everything open to abuse or interpretation which is too loose with so much at stake.

I would have thought commonsense would prevail.

How come so much pulling and pushing is allowed in the penalty area without punishment and obviously the game should be finally designated as non contact.

If a player clears the ball and then collides with another then it should result in a free kick regardless if this is the case nowadays, or a pen if in the area .

If a Gk bashes into a player whilst coming out to punch or catch a ball then that also should be a penalty.

The laws are now mostly the PROBLEM within the game.
Edited by DickWhiteog, Feb 5 2018, 08:36 AM.
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Feb 4 2018, 07:03 PM
Karius 7
Taa 7
Lovern 7
Van dyke 7
Robinson 7
Hendo 7
Can 5
Milner 6
Salah 8. ( what a player,, who thought we paid to much ?)
Firmino 4 ( unlike bobby)
Mane 5 ( looks out of form)

Subs .... meh!

Spurs deserved the point, they were the better team for large parts of the game.
We struggled to get out of our half at times,
We struggled to get out of our own end because we defended deep in the second half for the most part. The midfielders were covering the defence, which is why the defenders looked so much better than they have during their worst performances this season. The down side was that it was difficult to move the ball upfield through the well organised Spurs midfield. We resorted to long balls. It almost succeeded, with Salah's great individual goal. Spurs first goal was superb, however, but the second was a disgrace.
It must have been Firmino's worst game for the club, but he will bounce back.
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