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Topic Started: Feb 4 2018, 11:05 PM (377 Views)
John_Boy

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Pochettino: Spurs were much, much, much better than Liverpool
Date published: Sunday 4th February 2018 7:28


Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino saw nothing contentious in the two penalties and believes his team were unfortunate not to win at Anfield.

Harry Kane scored his 100th Premier League goal as his last-gasp penalty rescued a 2-2 draw for Tottenham at Liverpool in a game that had a staggering conclusion.

Kane saw his controversial 87th-minute spot-kick saved and that looked to prove costly when Mohamed Salah lit up Anfield with a sensational individual effort moments into added-on time.

But Kane was given the chance to atone when the linesman spotted Virgil van Dijk’s kick on Erik Lamela in the fourth minute of injury time and the England forward this time made no mistake, slotting low to Karius’ left as he joined the ‘100 club’ in dramatic fashion.

Pochettino told the BBC’s Match of the Day: “It was an amazing game to watch. I was calm, because I think the team plays so well. The feeling is we dropped two points. We were much, much, much better than Liverpool.

“Both were a penalty and nothing to say, it is not controversial – it is nothing. Sometimes people complain about the referee, but when they are right it is good to tell everyone.”

Wanyama’s thunderous strike – a piledriver that flew into the top left corner – left Pochettino purring.

He added: “It was a fantastic goal – it was the plan, no! – I am so happy because he helps the team to achieve one point.”
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John_Boy

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Gera.nium off. He’s milking the draw.
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Harry Kane to Sky Sports camera: You can't give me two tries | Football News

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Harry Kane had a cheeky message for the Sky Sports cameras after scoring a late penalty to give Tottenham a point at Liverpool.

As he left the pitch at the end of an epic 2-2 draw at Anfield, the Tottenham striker was celebrating his injury-time equaliser from the penalty spot, which came only a few minutes after he had seen his first penalty saved by Loris Karius.

And he turned to our cameraman and said: "You can't give me two tries."

Liverpool were leading 1-0 with 12 minutes left after Mohamed Salah's opener but Victor Wanyama thumped Spurs level before Kane won a penalty.

Although Kane saw his effort saved, he did not make the same mistake in injury-time, firing home his 100th Premier League goal to secure a draw.

Asked by Sky Sports Jamie Redknapp whether he has his sights on Alan Shearer's Premier League record of 260, Kane said: "Let's hope so, but it's so far away, he scored so many goals. It's great to be in the 100 club and it was nice to get something out of the game after the rollercoaster of emotions.

"Going 1-0 down at Anfield it almost feels you are under the cosh no matter how you are playing. When the gaffer spoke to us at half-time he said we are playing alright, we are keeping possession, but we need to create more chances, just keep doing in in the second half and the spaces will come.

"We fully deserved to get to 1-1 and probably deserved to win it but in the end we will take the draw."
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He’s milking it as well. Credit to him for scoring a high pressure pen. Still makes my blood boil.
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Jurgen Klopp says assistant referee was centre of attention in Liverpool 2-2 Tottenham | Football News

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Jurgen Klopp claimed the assistant referee got his wish to be the centre of attention after awarding a late penalty in the 2-2 draw between Tottenham and Liverpool.

Harry Kane had already missed a penalty before scoring the second during a 2-2 draw in which referee Jon Moss and his assistant were in the thick of the action.

With five minutes remaining, Dejan Lovren's swing and a miss put Kane, who appeared debatably offside, clean through and Moss ruled he had been brought down by Karius.

After a long discussion with his assistant, Moss stood by his decision but Loris Karius redeemed himself by saving the spot-kick Kane hit straight down the middle.

Into added time Salah then managed to weave himself past three defenders to lash a shot into the roof of the net to put Liverpool 2-1 up but, when Virgil van Dijk caught Erik Lamela with an attempted clearance, the assistant referee flagged to award the penalty and Kane did not miss second time around.

Klopp was not amused by the officials.

"The result was massively influenced by the linesman's decisions," he said.

"I am not allowed to go in their room until half an hour after the game, do you think the first thing he comes to me and tells me he made a mistake with the first penalty because it was clearly offside? Unbelievable.

"I don't know what they were discussing. And the second penalty, Virgil van Dijk touched him, but we know Lamela wants the touch and jumps into him. They would explain it with the touch and say it's a penalty but we all know.

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"In the first half, we didn't get any free-kick in these situations. That was the level for the game, which is ok, but then to get that in the last minute, wow. You need to be sure or leave it.

"But he wanted to be the middle of interest and now he is."
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John_Boy

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The ref and Lino both blundered.

On motd....the transcript of the discussion between the two show the ref overturned his decision based on nothing....ie not knowing if lovren touched the ball....

Ffs if var is not in operation yet...then how the Gera.nium can they overturn a decision based on that???? Both the Lino and the ref didn’t know if lovren touched the ball!!!!! And var is not implemented!!!! Someone please explain this to me....?
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If we put the ref to the sideline for one second and just review the football.

Think it fair to say Spurs deserved at least a point.

We pretty awful in the second half. So much so, I had a hard time recognizing our side.

Spurs can go into the Anfield dressing room holding their heads up high having largely dominated proceedings, getting the required decisions, not once, but twice, and securing a point.

Our lads must be in the dressing room thinking, what just happened, and not be feeling too good abut themselves, if I am being honest.

Really thought it would be a closer game, and we would be more expansive. More aggressive. We were ultimately tame in the last 45.
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Can’t remember the last time a team came to Anfield and completely dominated a half of football like Spurs did in the second 45.
It was all the battle in central midfield, their trio streets ahead of Liverpools. They complement each other , one destroys and breaks up play , the other runs directly with the ball while the other kills them with long passes. Ours , just run and press when they can but are pretty useless with the ball or trying to attack. One dimensional and predictable.
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Can’t remember the last time a team came to Anfield and completely dominated a half of football like Spurs did in the second 45.
It was all the battle in central midfield, their trio streets ahead of Liverpools. They complement each other , one destroys and breaks up play , the other runs directly with the ball while the other kills them with long passes. Ours , just run and press when they can but are pretty useless with the ball or trying to attack. One dimensional and predictable.
Totally agree, Dier, Dembele and Alli are streets ahead of what we have, Dembele in particular dominated our three, it was embarrassing at times.

Also agree with Klopp; refs shouldn't be awarding penalties in stoppage time unless they are 100% certain it is a spot kick.
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Can’t remember the last time a team came to Anfield and completely dominated a half of football like Spurs did in the second 45.
It was all the battle in central midfield, their trio streets ahead of Liverpools. They complement each other , one destroys and breaks up play , the other runs directly with the ball while the other kills them with long passes. Ours , just run and press when they can but are pretty useless with the ball or trying to attack. One dimensional and predictable.
Totally agree, Dier, Dembele and Alli are streets ahead of what we have, Dembele in particular dominated our three, it was embarrassing at times.

Also agree with Klopp; refs shouldn't be awarding penalties in stoppage time unless they are 100% certain it is a spot kick.
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Van Dijk calls out Harry Kane after Liverpool-Tottenham thriller

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Van Dijk calls out Harry Kane after Liverpool-Tottenham thriller

Date published: Monday 5th February 2018 7:59

Liverpool’s club-record signing Virgil van Dijk believes Harry Kane dived to win a penalty in the 2-2 draw at Anfield on Sunday.

Referee Jon Moss ruled Tottenham’s England international had been brought down after the slightest of touches from goalkeeper Loris Karius after being controversially allowed to play on despite being in an offside position.

Kane missed the penalty but redeemed himself from the spot deep into added time after Van Dijk was adjudged to have fouled Erik Lamela – the striker’s 100th Premier League goal.

However, the world’s most expensive defender thinks Kane was lucky to get the first award, especially after Dele Alli had been booked for diving in the box moments earlier – his third such transgression since his debut in 2015-16.

“I think it is a dive. You see him (Kane) diving clearly and no-one is talking about it but I think it is a dive,” said Van Dijk.

“There is a lot of discussion about whether it is offside, yes or no, but I think it was offside as well.

“You could just see him making that dive. The referee made his decision together with the linesman. It was good for us that it got saved.”

 

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Asked whether he thought Kane should be retrospectively punished the Holland international added: “That is not something for me.

“I thought it was a dive that is my opinion and the referee thought it was no offside and no dive and he gave a pen. Good for us that we saved it.”

Van Dijk was also unhappy with the award of the second penalty when Lamela went down as the Dutchman tried to clear the ball.

“I saw him coming in the end and I try and hold my leg in, he just pulled his body in front of the ball and he goes down,” he said.

“The ref said play on and I was very disappointed that the linesman said otherwise.

“I don’t think that is a penalty, same with the first one. That is also clearly not a penalty.”

 

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The match was an entertaining one for the neutrals with Mohamed Salah’s brilliant second of the match, a twisting, turning effort past three defenders, matched by the power of substitute Victor Wanyama’s piledriver which made it 1-1 at the time.

“It was a good game for the fans to watch. For us obviously we are disappointed that we didn’t get the win in the end,” said Van Dijk.

“There were loads of things going on. I think the most annoying feeling at the moment is we should have won and kept the 1-0.

“It was a good goal from Victor and unlucky that we didn’t win.

“It (Salah’s) was a fantastic goal and to get a penalty (given against) in the last second of the game was not good.

“Everybody should talk about Mo’s goal any way. Everyone can see how good he is and he showed that today as well.”

 

Edited by John_Boy, Feb 5 2018, 09:15 AM.
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stevieg4ever
Feb 5 2018, 06:00 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 12:50 AM
Can’t remember the last time a team came to Anfield and completely dominated a half of football like Spurs did in the second 45.
It was all the battle in central midfield, their trio streets ahead of Liverpools. They complement each other , one destroys and breaks up play , the other runs directly with the ball while the other kills them with long passes. Ours , just run and press when they can but are pretty useless with the ball or trying to attack. One dimensional and predictable.
Totally agree, Dier, Dembele and Alli are streets ahead of what we have, Dembele in particular dominated our three, it was embarrassing at times.

Also agree with Klopp; refs shouldn't be awarding penalties in stoppage time unless they are 100% certain it is a spot kick.
While I agree that Dembele is their main 'pivot', in the first half he was completely smothered by Henderson, Can and Milner - none of the trio gave him any time on the ball and he actually started putting out his elbows and going in hard on our players when he lost it. Klopp's gameplan was to not give him anytime on the ball and it worked.

Second half as soon as Dembele was withdrawn for Wanyama, that gameplan was thrown out of the window, there was no one to react to the changed situation, Can became his usual headless self and Wanyama scored... Coincidence ? I think not.

FWIW, I'd take only Dembele and possibly Eriksen out of that Spurs team and put them in ours. Dier is shit, Alli is ok, but ineffective most of the time .

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Yeah l reckon he dived for that first penalty as well.
Not surprising that their Argie coach thought nothing of either incident.
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Feb 5 2018, 09:21 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 06:00 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 12:50 AM
Can’t remember the last time a team came to Anfield and completely dominated a half of football like Spurs did in the second 45.
It was all the battle in central midfield, their trio streets ahead of Liverpools. They complement each other , one destroys and breaks up play , the other runs directly with the ball while the other kills them with long passes. Ours , just run and press when they can but are pretty useless with the ball or trying to attack. One dimensional and predictable.
Totally agree, Dier, Dembele and Alli are streets ahead of what we have, Dembele in particular dominated our three, it was embarrassing at times.

Also agree with Klopp; refs shouldn't be awarding penalties in stoppage time unless they are 100% certain it is a spot kick.
While I agree that Dembele is their main 'pivot', in the first half he was completely smothered by Henderson, Can and Milner - none of the trio gave him any time on the ball and he actually started putting out his elbows and going in hard on our players when he lost it. Klopp's gameplan was to not give him anytime on the ball and it worked.

Second half as soon as Dembele was withdrawn for Wanyama, that gameplan was thrown out of the window, there was no one to react to the changed situation, Can became his usual headless self and Wanyama scored... Coincidence ? I think not.

FWIW, I'd take only Dembele and possibly Eriksen out of that Spurs team and put them in ours. Dier is shit, Alli is ok, but ineffective most of the time .

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up to a really good goal. If he had another 20 shots from there I think he misses them all, this time unlucky for us he scored. They cheated for the penalties, the lino fist pumping was strange to see, did he have a big bet on two penalties or a score draw.

I would also take Son from their team as well as Toby A, not to mention the keeper.
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Ref Watch: Dermot Gallagher's verdict on Tottenham's penalties | Football News

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Harry Kane's 100th Premier League strike salvaged a point for Tottenham in a 2-2 draw at Liverpool with an added-time spot-kick, but should they have been awarded both penalties?

In a dramatic finish, Kane took his tally to 22 goals for the season with virtually the last kick of the game after the visitors' second controversially-awarded penalty in the final 10 minutes.

It appeared as though Mohamed Salah's second goal of a pulsating game at Anfield had won all three points for the hosts, but following a foul by Virgil van Dijk on Erik Lamela, Kane stepped up and slotted beyond Loris Karius to earn a share of the spoils.

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp contested referee Jon Moss' decision to award Spurs their first spot-kick after Karius brought down Kane inside the box, but former Premier League match official Dermot Gallagher says the correct decision was made.

Joel Matip argues with Moss after the awarding of the second Spurs penalty

He told Sky Sports: "The first penalty is very interesting. [Harry] Kane is in an offside position and [Dejan] Lovren has the chance to clear the ball and takes a chance.

"He has an ample opportunity to clear it. He doesn't clear it and he's clearly hit the ball. The ball comes through to Kane who is now not offside, as the law states.

"I thought it was excellent because you can quite clearly hear Eddie Smart say to Jon Moss, "I don't know if he's played the ball.

"It might have taken a bit of time but at the end they came to the right decision and both officials should be applauded. Lovren miskicks the ball so Kane is therefore onside.

Moss consults with assistant referee Eddie Smart over a penalty decision

"The conversation afterwards reinforces the communication on the day with referee and assistant working together."

A thunderous strike from Victor Wanyama cancelled out Salah's early opener but having missed the opportunity of taking the lead in the closing stages through Kane, the visitors were fortunate to be handed the chance of rescuing a point.

After Salah's brilliant second solo goal, Lamela went down inside the box following a challenge on him by Van Dijk - and Gallagher explained the process of the officials coming to the right call.

"It's very difficult because the penalty area is so crowded that [Moss] has to look across on the diagonally," the former official added.

"There's no doubt there's a foul and it's another example of great teamwork between the two [Moss and Smart]. It underpins the strength of their game.

"In the debrief after the game, they'll be told that they made the big, match-changing decisions correct on the day."

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Spurs deserved the point,to be honest ,

The first penalty , the linesman was saying it may not be a penalty , because Kane was off side , the fact Lovern swung his boot at it, and got a touch , meant Kane could play on, he made the most of the challenge , our players do the same.

The second penalty ,, bit harsh , but I don't think the linesman was cheating , if so, he would not have called Kane offside for the 1st one.

The thought struck me during the 2nd half, when we could hardly get out of our box,,,, " this must be what it's like to be an opposition fan when they are playing us"
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Spurs deserved the point,to be honest ,

The first penalty , the linesman was saying it may not be a penalty , because Kane was off side , the fact Lovern swung his boot at it, and got a touch , meant Kane could play on, he made the most of the challenge , our players do the same.

The second penalty ,, bit harsh , but I don't think the linesman was cheating , if so, he would not have called Kane offside for the 1st one.

The thought struck me during the 2nd half, when we could hardly get out of our box,,,, " this must be what it's like to be an opposition fan when they are playing us"
The first penalty - they both agreed Kane was offside, but neither one knew if Lovren had touched it. They gave the penalty anyway. Thats just poor officiating, regardless of whether they guessed right or not. If they aren't sure, then it should not be given.
The second penalty - the lino gives himself a little fist pump after the penalty was given - hardly a good look.
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Feb 5 2018, 11:55 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 11:52 AM
Spurs deserved the point,to be honest ,

The first penalty , the linesman was saying it may not be a penalty , because Kane was off side , the fact Lovern swung his boot at it, and got a touch , meant Kane could play on, he made the most of the challenge , our players do the same.

The second penalty ,, bit harsh , but I don't think the linesman was cheating , if so, he would not have called Kane offside for the 1st one.

The thought struck me during the 2nd half, when we could hardly get out of our box,,,, " this must be what it's like to be an opposition fan when they are playing us"
The first penalty - they both agreed Kane was offside, but neither one knew if Lovren had touched it. They gave the penalty anyway. Thats just poor officiating, regardless of whether they guessed right or not. If they aren't sure, then it should not be given.
The second penalty - the lino gives himself a little fist pump after the penalty was given - hardly a good look.
Kane was offside from the through ball and it should have been called otherwise there is no point trying to play offside.

Had Lovren left the ball, would they have spotted offside? Surely if Kane is offside when the ball is played forward he is OFFSIDE .

We might as well leave a player moving around permanently in the opposition penalty area and see what happens with the game???

He wont be offside unless he plays the ball, but if a stray pass or a ball flicks off a defender on its way through then hey presto.

It might well in nerve a back 4 and gk if that ploy is used . OH hang on Spurs use it .
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Feb 5 2018, 11:55 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 11:52 AM
Spurs deserved the point,to be honest ,

The first penalty , the linesman was saying it may not be a penalty , because Kane was off side , the fact Lovern swung his boot at it, and got a touch , meant Kane could play on, he made the most of the challenge , our players do the same.

The second penalty ,, bit harsh , but I don't think the linesman was cheating , if so, he would not have called Kane offside for the 1st one.

The thought struck me during the 2nd half, when we could hardly get out of our box,,,, " this must be what it's like to be an opposition fan when they are playing us"
The first penalty - they both agreed Kane was offside, but neither one knew if Lovren had touched it. They gave the penalty anyway. Thats just poor officiating, regardless of whether they guessed right or not. If they aren't sure, then it should not be given.
The second penalty - the lino gives himself a little fist pump after the penalty was given - hardly a good look.
The ref said Lovern got a touch , you could hear him say it on the sky camera on the touch line , it may be a stupid rule ,, but that's the rule ,,

I've watched one video of the linesman , it was from the sky camera , from behind the linesman ,, didn't make out fist pump , is there other footage ?

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Feb 5 2018, 11:55 AM
chalky the red
Feb 5 2018, 11:52 AM
Spurs deserved the point,to be honest ,

The first penalty , the linesman was saying it may not be a penalty , because Kane was off side , the fact Lovern swung his boot at it, and got a touch , meant Kane could play on, he made the most of the challenge , our players do the same.

The second penalty ,, bit harsh , but I don't think the linesman was cheating , if so, he would not have called Kane offside for the 1st one.

The thought struck me during the 2nd half, when we could hardly get out of our box,,,, " this must be what it's like to be an opposition fan when they are playing us"
The first penalty - they both agreed Kane was offside, but neither one knew if Lovren had touched it. They gave the penalty anyway. Thats just poor officiating, regardless of whether they guessed right or not. If they aren't sure, then it should not be given.
The second penalty - the lino gives himself a little fist pump after the penalty was given - hardly a good look.
Kane was offside from the through ball and it should have been called otherwise there is no point trying to play offside.

Had Lovren left the ball, would they have spotted offside? Surely if Kane is offside when the ball is played forward he is OFFSIDE .

We might as well leave a player moving around permanently in the opposition penalty area and see what happens with the game???

He wont be offside unless he plays the ball, but if a stray pass or a ball flicks off a defender on its way through then hey presto.

It might well in nerve a back 4 and gk if that ploy is used . OH hang on Spurs use it .
That's the rule ,, it's the rule for us as well ,, you wouldn't complaining it worked in our favour .

I'm more concerned about or performance , than the refs decisions !
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Feb 5 2018, 09:32 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 09:21 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 06:00 AM
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Feb 5 2018, 12:50 AM
Can’t remember the last time a team came to Anfield and completely dominated a half of football like Spurs did in the second 45.
It was all the battle in central midfield, their trio streets ahead of Liverpools. They complement each other , one destroys and breaks up play , the other runs directly with the ball while the other kills them with long passes. Ours , just run and press when they can but are pretty useless with the ball or trying to attack. One dimensional and predictable.
Totally agree, Dier, Dembele and Alli are streets ahead of what we have, Dembele in particular dominated our three, it was embarrassing at times.

Also agree with Klopp; refs shouldn't be awarding penalties in stoppage time unless they are 100% certain it is a spot kick.
While I agree that Dembele is their main 'pivot', in the first half he was completely smothered by Henderson, Can and Milner - none of the trio gave him any time on the ball and he actually started putting out his elbows and going in hard on our players when he lost it. Klopp's gameplan was to not give him anytime on the ball and it worked.

Second half as soon as Dembele was withdrawn for Wanyama, that gameplan was thrown out of the window, there was no one to react to the changed situation, Can became his usual headless self and Wanyama scored... Coincidence ? I think not.

FWIW, I'd take only Dembele and possibly Eriksen out of that Spurs team and put them in ours. Dier is shit, Alli is ok, but ineffective most of the time .

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up to a really good goal. If he had another 20 shots from there I think he misses them all, this time unlucky for us he scored. They cheated for the penalties, the lino fist pumping was strange to see, did he have a big bet on two penalties or a score draw.

I would also take Son from their team as well as Toby A, not to mention the keeper.
Don't forget Pocchetino's vital contribution with the substitution. Not the Wanyama entry, but Lamela. With his diving team neutralised after Dele Alli's embarrasing yellow card, he had to find another one to go to ground after throwing himself into a Liverpool player. It's nice to have so many reliable divers in the squad, so you always have backup.
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Feb 5 2018, 01:07 PM
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Feb 5 2018, 11:55 AM
chalky the red
Feb 5 2018, 11:52 AM
Spurs deserved the point,to be honest ,

The first penalty , the linesman was saying it may not be a penalty , because Kane was off side , the fact Lovern swung his boot at it, and got a touch , meant Kane could play on, he made the most of the challenge , our players do the same.

The second penalty ,, bit harsh , but I don't think the linesman was cheating , if so, he would not have called Kane offside for the 1st one.

The thought struck me during the 2nd half, when we could hardly get out of our box,,,, " this must be what it's like to be an opposition fan when they are playing us"
The first penalty - they both agreed Kane was offside, but neither one knew if Lovren had touched it. They gave the penalty anyway. Thats just poor officiating, regardless of whether they guessed right or not. If they aren't sure, then it should not be given.
The second penalty - the lino gives himself a little fist pump after the penalty was given - hardly a good look.
The ref said Lovern got a touch , you could hear him say it on the sky camera on the touch line , it may be a stupid rule ,, but that's the rule ,,

I've watched one video of the linesman , it was from the sky camera , from behind the linesman ,, didn't make out fist pump , is there other footage ?

In the EPL this season there must have been a hundred or more offsides called when the ball has hit a defender on the way through. Back passes are fair game, but Lovren was falling and swinging his boot to clear upfield in a direction 180 degrees from where Karius was standing. Hardly a back pass. The way the interpretation of the law stands right now, some touches from defenders are grounds for 'playing on', and some are not. The FA has a duty to define the distinction as to when a touch nullifies the offside call, and when it doesn't. I hope somebody from our club takes this up with the FA to get the clarification that this point deserves.
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Feb 5 2018, 01:07 PM
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Feb 5 2018, 11:52 AM
Spurs deserved the point,to be honest ,

The first penalty , the linesman was saying it may not be a penalty , because Kane was off side , the fact Lovern swung his boot at it, and got a touch , meant Kane could play on, he made the most of the challenge , our players do the same.

The second penalty ,, bit harsh , but I don't think the linesman was cheating , if so, he would not have called Kane offside for the 1st one.

The thought struck me during the 2nd half, when we could hardly get out of our box,,,, " this must be what it's like to be an opposition fan when they are playing us"
The first penalty - they both agreed Kane was offside, but neither one knew if Lovren had touched it. They gave the penalty anyway. Thats just poor officiating, regardless of whether they guessed right or not. If they aren't sure, then it should not be given.
The second penalty - the lino gives himself a little fist pump after the penalty was given - hardly a good look.
The ref said Lovern got a touch , you could hear him say it on the sky camera on the touch line , it may be a stupid rule ,, but that's the rule ,,

I've watched one video of the linesman , it was from the sky camera , from behind the linesman ,, didn't make out fist pump , is there other footage ?

Not according to the footage shown on Sky he didn't:

https://www.rousingthekop.com/2018/02/05/the-transcript-that-incriminates-jon-moss-and-assistant-referee-eddie-smart/

"Fist Pump" footage:

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2018/02/05/video-linesman-appears-to-celebrate-tottenham-penalty/

Theres not much there and I highly doubt it means anything other than him celebrating a "correct" decision, but its still not a good look to see an assistant "celebrating" a 95th minute game changing penalty
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Feb 4 2018, 11:58 PM
If we put the ref to the sideline for one second and just review the football.

Think it fair to say Spurs deserved at least a point.

We pretty awful in the second half. So much so, I had a hard time recognizing our side.

Spurs can go into the Anfield dressing room holding their heads up high having largely dominated proceedings, getting the required decisions, not once, but twice, and securing a point.

Our lads must be in the dressing room thinking, what just happened, and not be feeling too good abut themselves, if I am being honest.

Really thought it would be a closer game, and we would be more expansive. More aggressive. We were ultimately tame in the last 45.

"Think it fair to say Spurs deserved at least a point."

Why do you think that? You think Spurs maybe deserved to win on account of greater possession? By that criterion, we deserved to beat WBA and Swansea, but not many supporters nor pundits were ready to make that case. Did Spurs do more offensively than our club, create more chances, and better ones? Did they have key officiating decisions go against them to have goals called back? Did they keep hitting woodwork without scoring? Did Spurs defend better? The fact is that Spurs didn't dominate regarding creation of scoring chances, they gave up possession in a bad location for our first goal, and they needed the intervention of a pair of bad officials for their second goal. Our club played a good defensive game for the most part, and created chances, better ones than Spurs created, despite their possession stats. Spurs get credit for a brilliant solo strike for their first goal. Otherwise they huffed and puffed. And what's more, their reward came from diving more than for their penetrative play.
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to make us all feel better, Lamela was also offside. How come the eagle eyed linesman never spotted that?

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