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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 10:06 AM Post #51 |
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We are currently 6th, 7 points off second, 12 points off the top, with 25 games to go, despite not quite clicking yet. My prediction wasn't made hastily. I looked at the other teams and honestly think we are better than most of them. If we were currently level with City I might even have picked us for top spot, but 12 points is a hell of a gap to make up (although it has been done before, with many less games to play). I am expecting us to improve as the season goes on, with new players settling more and more as the season goes on. I'm expecting us to start winning at home, which has held us back - with home wins against Sunderland, Norwich and Swansea we'd be a point off United. With a win against United we'd be 2 points ahead. All ifs and buts, although I've seen enough quality to tell me 2nd is a very real prospect. Our midfield is helping to create chances in large quantities. They are also helping our defence be tight. Our defence is solid and hard to break down, while our keeper is the best around. In Suarez we have one of the league's best players, with guys like Bellamy, Maxi, Downing, Kuyt and Henderson to support him. Then there's Carroll, who is not a donkey, but a very good striker who will get goals for us. I can't see us not being involved at the sharp end come March, April May time. |
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| Danny | Nov 29 2011, 10:59 AM Post #52 |
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Sooty - you think we can finish 2nd, I've heard a few daft things posted but that ones right at the top |
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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 11:10 AM Post #53 |
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I think people saying we'll finish between 8th and 12th is daft. I think people saying we'll finish 6th are being a bit negative. I think people saying we'll finish 4th are playing it safe to an extent. At the end of the day it's their prediction. Let's wait until the end of the season, and see who is closest. I hope I'm closest. As for people saying daft things, RM's posts about Henderson a while back take some beating. So does your post about Downing being average. |
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| Danny | Nov 29 2011, 11:22 AM Post #54 |
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Why don't you arrange a poll to see what all our posters think about Downing, ask something like- Do you think Downing is a a) A great player A better than average playerc) An average player d) A worse than average player e) A bad player |
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| John_Boy | Nov 29 2011, 11:24 AM Post #55 |
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downing is an average player. when the team plays well, he will blend in and may even contribute, but when the team is up against it, he is one of many who shy away and does not take the initiative to be productive. |
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| Danny | Nov 29 2011, 11:31 AM Post #56 |
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C'mon Sooty man arrange the poll, lets have a vote ! |
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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 12:19 PM Post #57 |
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A poll will prove little, other than how many people don't know what average means. If anyone thinks an average footballer would be a regular at a top side like Liverpool, playing in the top league in England, and also be a regular in the England side then I feel they aren't really sure what the word means. |
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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 12:20 PM Post #58 |
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Now this is a surprise - Blonde Boy hasn't a clue what average means either. Shocking stuff. |
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| John_Boy | Nov 29 2011, 12:27 PM Post #59 |
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why dont you explain your definition of average? my understanding is a player who gets 6/7 consistently with the odd 5 and 8 |
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| Hollywood | Nov 29 2011, 12:54 PM Post #60 |
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You mean a poll gives us useless statistics? Imagine that? You're a beauty Soctty. |
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| Danny | Nov 29 2011, 01:34 PM Post #61 |
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Ok sooty you don't seem to want to use the word average so go for this Marks out of 5 5 ---- World beater 4----- Excellent 3------Good 2-----Ok ish 1------ Poor |
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| Hollywood | Nov 29 2011, 01:36 PM Post #62 |
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How about Lucas - esque?
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| Camelot | Nov 29 2011, 01:39 PM Post #63 |
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RM will never give credit. He picks on what he perceives as the weak points in the team and goes for the jugular. He will always do it because he has an agenda, and Socktitty has pointed out what it is. He does not have the best interests of the team at heart, because he does not support it. If this team were to win the EPL title, he would evaporate, because he would be frustrated at having his agenda blocked. He sacrifices this club to use their weaknesses to aggrandise himself and get up the nose of the real supporters. |
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| Camelot | Nov 29 2011, 01:46 PM Post #64 |
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..........other than how many people don't know what average means Are you referring to the average person? The average dog knows what to do with poles. |
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| bazaDred | Nov 29 2011, 01:55 PM Post #65 |
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at least he doesn't try to score points off somebody's death though eh :rolleyes: |
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| Danny | Nov 29 2011, 01:58 PM Post #66 |
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It appears Sooty thinks that if you play for LFC, are an England international and play in the top league in England you must be better than an average footballer, must be something to do with what he drinks me thinks. Answers lads please |
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| Hollywood | Nov 29 2011, 02:07 PM Post #67 |
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Well, you're likely not shit... on average.... in fairness.... Djimit Traore anyone. Defence rests..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| Danny | Nov 29 2011, 02:26 PM Post #68 |
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Exactly |
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| cactusjon | Nov 29 2011, 02:37 PM Post #69 |
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Yeah, shocker. LFC supporter trusts and supports Kenny Dalglish. Basically you think that "winning and scoring goals" is the name of the game. I think building a team for the future is more important. We're moving in the right direction with decent owners and a club legend driving us forward. That is enough for me. I've made this point before, but seeing as there is some widely unrealistic expectations, I think it is wrath repeating. Man City have spent hundreds of millions of the course of 3 years to get where they are now. Spending a fraction of that in one year is not going to instantly transform us into title challengers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is going to be disappointed. |
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| cactusjon | Nov 29 2011, 02:40 PM Post #70 |
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Ha ha, you do make me laugh. Your self-parodying posts are a highlight and your comic creation rivals the very greatest comedians..... Wait, you're serious? AH HA HA HA HA HA AH AHA AH HA |
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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 03:58 PM Post #71 |
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My definition is a player who is exactly in the middle of the spectrum of players between the worst player and the best player. Given there are something like 4,000 professional players in this country, and between 600 and 1,000 in the Premier League, Downing is not average. As far as English players go, he is a regular in the England team. Of the 4,000 professional players in this country, there are probably about 2,500 English players. Downing is regularly picked as one of the best 11. That's not average. |
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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 03:59 PM Post #72 |
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Ah, that famous England regular... :ph43r: |
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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 04:02 PM Post #73 |
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Oh stop - you'll have me blushing here... And I mean a poll of monkeys isn't going to give you the theory of relativity. |
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| Soctty | Nov 29 2011, 04:06 PM Post #74 |
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I think you are rigging the options there a wee bit. How about - 10 - World Class 9 - Excellent 8 - Very Good 7 - Good 6 - Above average 5 - Average 4 - Below Average 3 - Poor 2 - Terrible 1 - Bebe On that scale I'd give Downing a 7.5 so far as he settles in, with the ability to stretch to an 8 to 8.5 consistently. Last season with Villa, I'd have easily given him an 8, and a 9 on occasion. |
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| Danny | Nov 29 2011, 04:16 PM Post #75 |
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Good for you Sooty, you have done us proud. I give Downing 5 |
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