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| Fsg: The Game Plan | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 17 2012, 11:41 AM (394 Views) | |
| bullybeef | Jun 17 2012, 11:41 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/06/the-game-plan/
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| red machine | Jun 17 2012, 11:55 AM Post #2 |
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hmm the problem is that their plan is actualy not very good. why will a team floundering in mid table out score man utd city arsenal tottenham and other teams doing well,in the commercial side of things...not possible and no amount of history will prevent that.fsg trading on lfc history...mark my words these fsg owners are looking for free lunches everywhere whilst making sure no one gets any free lunch from them.Shysters of the highest order. |
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| SpekeRed | Jun 17 2012, 01:04 PM Post #3 |
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(Quote red machine) hmm the problem is that their plan is actualy not very good. why will a team floundering in mid table out score man utd city arsenal tottenham and other teams doing well,in the commercial side of things...not possible and no amount of history will prevent that.fsg trading on lfc history...mark my words these fsg owners are looking for free lunches everywhere whilst making sure no one gets any free lunch from them.Shysters of the highest order.[/B] 3rd tier so called fans like you are the shysters! |
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Beside the hillsborough flame I heard a kopite mourning Why so many taken on that day Justice has never been done But there memory will carry on There`ll be glory round the fields of anfield road. Justice for the 96 RIP YNWA!!! | |
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| bullybeef | Jun 17 2012, 01:12 PM Post #4 |
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Well, if we're not gonna remove folk like RM from the forum, we can block them. If we all blocked him, it would save Mister a job. And I certainly wouldn't quote him in future - I am sure he receives too much pleasure in seeing his posts more than once. Sorry RM, but for the sake of my sanity and my presence here, I vote your 'opinions' unwelcome, unproductive, and suspiciously anti-LFC. Any responses will be pointless. |
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| Istanbully | Jun 17 2012, 01:25 PM Post #5 |
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I don't think they're Shysters but I can understand peoples concerns. These are business people & are running LFC as such. We don't have benefactors who can afford and are willing to plough millions of their own money in like Sheik Monsoor or the Russian. The only way FSG as a business can make a profit is by selling it on. In order to sell at a profit need to make LFC successful both on and off the pitch. I'll keep an open mind for now but at the moment I am of the opinion both FSG and LFC supporters have a common goal. |
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| Misty77 | Jun 17 2012, 01:32 PM Post #6 |
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Its more important to make us a solid and self-sufficient Club/business. I'd rather us were able to support ourselves financially on our own earnings than have to rely on the handouts from rich Arabs or bored Russian buisnessmen. If Chelsea or City were to suddenly find themselves without their benefactors it would be the biggest crash since the Hindenburg! |
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| Danny | Jun 17 2012, 01:37 PM Post #7 |
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I agree Istanbully totally with your comments, gone are the days when owners of football clubs were fans of the club, we are in the world of big business where owners view everything hopefully as a long term investments which means it's still possible to have sucess but Fenway won't take risk if they are in doubt, they have to think of their backers money as well and there's no way they will risk losing that. I'm still positive that Fenway will be good owners and proud with it but we all have to be realistic to understand their views as well which does not run along the lines that they are 100% fans and only in it for the glory like the Arabs and Russian multi billionaires |
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| Istanbully | Jun 17 2012, 01:54 PM Post #8 |
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Agreed Mist. I've fallen out of love with football in general over the years. What with average players becoming millionairs virtually overnight, people supporting a club as a fashion statement, agents and all the corporate bullshhiit, ending up with our working class game now belonging to the middle to upper classes. The FSG business model for me is the lesser of two evils. I wouldn't like us to be like Citeh. While it was great them stoping Man Ure last season, if they carry on in the same vein in enticing every decent player with outrageous salaries, it's only a matter of time before everybody hates them just a much as their neighbours. Rant Over |
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| red machine | Jun 17 2012, 01:57 PM Post #9 |
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feel free to block me bully :lol: ..its what its there for...save you dishing out abuse for no reason as well....go ahead..make my day ..punk!! :lol:
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| red machine | Jun 17 2012, 02:07 PM Post #10 |
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I had a very open mind on fsg but it has become evident,increasingly so,that they are not what they crack on to be.All well and good having these master plans and shouting about it as they do but lets not forget there are other clubs with their plans too.fsg speak like their plan is best...clearly it isnt.This plan of theirs is great in theory..but,as henry himself has said,commercial money is central to it.Well if its not forthcoming or not enough of it then lfc will flounder.Didnt he say a few months ago the tv deal was central to lfc plans...other teams in the league took exception to his comments...and low and behold little wigan beat lfc next game to remind him lfc are no more important to the premier league than the other clubs in it are. |
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| steve10 | Jun 17 2012, 02:13 PM Post #11 |
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It all depends how you read this master plan and like some of the others I am keeping an open mind about it. I am yet to be convinced by FSG but I hope that I am prooved wrong in the long run. |
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| SpekeRed | Jun 17 2012, 02:17 PM Post #12 |
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No use blocking RM tbh! Sorry Mist but he spouts the same anti LFC comments non-stop whether it be in posts or shoutbox! It was all about Kenny last season now he's gone and Rodgers tenure hasn't started yet his anti LFC agenda has now moved onto the owners! It's been this way nearly a year on here now from him! When does it come to the point when enough is enough! Personally I'm sick to death of it and many more are getting sick of it! Every post is an attack on anything to do with LFC or as he calls it 'HIS OPINION' The guy has a major agenda against LFC a want's nothing more than to stir the forum up day in day out! |
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Beside the hillsborough flame I heard a kopite mourning Why so many taken on that day Justice has never been done But there memory will carry on There`ll be glory round the fields of anfield road. Justice for the 96 RIP YNWA!!! | |
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| bullybeef | Jun 17 2012, 02:35 PM Post #13 |
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With the right system and players, a team can be competitive without vast amounts of brass, even in today's game. Rafa proved this with us, before he lost the players, and more recently, Montpellier in France, albeit in a lower quality league. However, they still beat mega-rich PSG and Lyon on a very meagre budget, and now they have players wanted by others. Newcastle are another example of being competitive whilst spending frugally. Yes, FSG are a conglomerate, but Henry is sports mad, very competitive and hates losing. I read a great article of how he came to be the man is from very humble beginnings (can't recall if I posted the article, but I probably did). He's rarely made a bad call, even after sacking a legendary Red Socks coach (sound familiar), and plucking a new coach from Asian baseball, the Red Socks won their first World Series in decades. Lets hope lightening can strike twice. The bottom line is, we cannot and should not compare Henry to Hicks or Gillet. I far as I have read, he has never had a company liquidated or suffered bankruptcy, something both Hicks and Gillet had in common, which is pretty amazing in itself these days, and he is a self-made billionaire, so he he must know more about making money than loosing it. He never made promises, and he has only started making tough decisions this summer. Whether these decisions work out or not are out of his control. But he owns LFC; the club is his to do with how he pleases, and only success on the pitch will make the club profitable. He doesn't need to dip into the club, because he has other businesses the make money from. Dipping into the club would only be stealing from himself. And Henry saved the club from administration, which we should forever be thankful for. We have to look at the fall of Rangers, and be very, very grateful we still have a huge club to follow. |
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| red machine | Jun 17 2012, 02:37 PM Post #14 |
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lets see how long it takes you to turn on brendan speke.will you be giving him the same faith you gave kenny despite his failings.brendans task is so much tougher...once he starts to clear out your favourites like lucas and henderson..i suspect you will turn on him. soon enough watch the crecendo build up against the owners like it did against hicks and gillette. |
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| red machine | Jun 17 2012, 02:41 PM Post #15 |
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wrong bully..lfc is not histo do with "as he pleases"..hicks n gillette thought that and look what happened to them.henry is a custodian of lfc and is accountable to the fans. |
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| SpekeRed | Jun 17 2012, 02:53 PM Post #16 |
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Yes I will be giving Brendan the same faith as I gave Kenny! Also Lucas and Henderson won't be leaving anytime soon! Also seriously RM I'd change your tone regarding the constant LFC bashing you do! Mistys already stated he can't have another season of it from you but yet you can't resist with your agenda! So for the last time I'm asking you to pipe down with the constant bashing because I can't see the admin and mods tolerating yet another year of constant LFC criticism from you! |
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Beside the hillsborough flame I heard a kopite mourning Why so many taken on that day Justice has never been done But there memory will carry on There`ll be glory round the fields of anfield road. Justice for the 96 RIP YNWA!!! | |
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| bullybeef | Jun 17 2012, 03:13 PM Post #17 |
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Just block him, Speke. I know you can still read his diatribe on the Box, but it doesn't half make you feel better. He clearly loves the attention. I think it's time to send someone to Coventry - maybe he'll go and 'support' them, but then again, I wouldn't wish him on most teams.....well, maybe manure. |
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| SpekeRed | Jun 17 2012, 03:17 PM Post #18 |
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Unfortunately bullybeef as you say he posts the same in shoutbox so in all honesty imo what's the use? |
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Beside the hillsborough flame I heard a kopite mourning Why so many taken on that day Justice has never been done But there memory will carry on There`ll be glory round the fields of anfield road. Justice for the 96 RIP YNWA!!! | |
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| bazaDred | Jun 17 2012, 05:05 PM Post #19 |
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the point your both missing is that RM was the ONLY poster who got anywhere near a prediction on were we would be placed in the league last season so i would say he is one of the most accurate posters on the forum who realizes how shite our team has become and even i was to optimistic saying we would come 6th so stop being so deluded and blaming thigs like goal posts and cross bars for lfc being inept in the league. |
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| SpekeRed | Jun 17 2012, 05:59 PM Post #20 |
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This is not about predictions baza! It's about the constant shitting on LFC in every post he makes! Considering your another so called part of the 3rd tier mob yourself you would agree with him! |
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Beside the hillsborough flame I heard a kopite mourning Why so many taken on that day Justice has never been done But there memory will carry on There`ll be glory round the fields of anfield road. Justice for the 96 RIP YNWA!!! | |
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| fredflunk | Jun 17 2012, 07:48 PM Post #21 |
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be interesting to see who is in the 1st tier of posters'? rafapologists? who is in 2nd tier? goons? 3rd tier? rm and ? |
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| red machine | Jun 17 2012, 08:11 PM Post #22 |
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haha fred,well considering i wanted rafa to return i dont know what tier im in then tbh...speke is 4th division.given up trying to reason with him.shall we just all sing from the same hymme sheet and when speke bully and co say its ok to talk about the owners intentions then we can all do so..but we must stop when they say to amazing isnt it..cant win with them. bully i can see your posts so you havent blocked me yet..hurry up will ya..enjoy your self righteousness bully!!cheers n goodbye! :lol: |
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| SpekeRed | Jun 17 2012, 08:30 PM Post #23 |
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all right then we'll all sing your hymn sheet the lfc players are Shit kenny was cheating the fans rodgers is a championship manager at best fsg are out to ruin lfc and plough all monies generated into the red sox repeat that 5000+ times jeez that now makes me the ultimate lfc fan |
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Beside the hillsborough flame I heard a kopite mourning Why so many taken on that day Justice has never been done But there memory will carry on There`ll be glory round the fields of anfield road. Justice for the 96 RIP YNWA!!! | |
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| Camelot | Jun 18 2012, 12:31 PM Post #24 |
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Getting back to the subject thread, I would judge that the Henry message is designed to dampen expectations, at least to some degree. I am a bit puzzled as to the reference to the demolition of homes around Anfield as a deterrent. A few weeks ago the Liverpool council announced that the homes immediately adjacent to the main stand were slated for demolition. They were careful to say that that it was not associated at all with LFC plans for reconstruction of the stadium. The interpretation of recent announcements could mean a rejection of a new stadium, but not necessarily of a reconstruction. The council has put pressure on LFC for a decision on the new stadium idea, maybe trying to force the hand of the club. I did note that the timing of the comments occurred when the focus of the football world is on the Euros. Henry is nothing if not media savvy. |
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