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| Moyes; "Groundshare Makes Sense" | |
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| bazaDred | Jun 21 2012, 05:37 PM Post #1 |
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David Moyes admits Everton would love to groundshare with Liverpool but fears the Reds would never support it. The cash-strapped Toffees desperately need to replace Goodison Park and Moyes admits they would happily enter into a groundshare option with their near-neighbours. Grand design: Everton need to redevelop Goodison Park However, Moyes accepts that is a probably a non-starter as it is not something the Reds, who have their own stadium plans for Stanley Park as well as considering redeveloping Anfield, would consider. He said: 'We know we could do with some more cash and we would like a new stadium but we have an awful lot of things going for us. 'I think Everton probably need a new stadium more than Liverpool but it is not something we have in our culture because we don't share grounds. New home: Liverpool are considering two options 'It does make sense, we could really redevelop the whole area around Stanley Park. 'For us it is definitely worth doing. We'd take it but I don't think Liverpool would probably want us or need us and from that point of view I think that is where it will end up.' ----------------------------------------------- i agree with moyes that a groundshare makes sense but when he talks about everton needing lfc to share more than lfc need everton i disagree with as lfc cannot build a new ground by ourselves as most fans wont accept and pig headed fans on both sides will stop this from going ahead and therefor stop the chance of either club progressing ,instead lfc and efc will stagnate or worse its the bitters on both sides killing each club and it will be to the deportment of our clubs
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| RedSilver | Jun 21 2012, 06:38 PM Post #2 |
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The Moyesiah (sic), sceptics & non-believers should have a seance and contact the spirits of the future to see if a groundshare makes sence. My personal spirit tells me it wouldn't work and I'd rather not share my home football session seat with the occult.
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Jurgen Klopp: 'It's only this game because of the fans, that's what I know, think and feel. We have to entertain them, we have to make their life better. Football is not so important, we don't save lives. We're not doctors. It's our job that they can forget their problems for 90 minutes and then they can talk about the game.' | |
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| Misty77 | Jun 21 2012, 06:54 PM Post #3 |
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I'm not from the city, so my own views can't be important on the matter, but if Everton were a little bit wealthier, and could pay their share then I wouldn't be totally against the idea. It works for Milan so why not us? Though I'd be a little concerned that we'd end up footing the bill for such a venture. |
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| DickWhiteog | Jun 21 2012, 06:59 PM Post #4 |
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Seconded Oh Blessed one ! |
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Veritas Vos Liberabit - John 8:32 for all those affected by Hillsborough | |
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| RedSilver | Jun 21 2012, 08:55 PM Post #5 |
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Every true LFC fans views are very important Misty, don't play your love, commitment & honour to your/my team down. On another note, many moons ago I used to be an avid reader of FourFourTwo type football mags & read up on a lot of footy chat/knowledge - from all sources - and from what I remember reading the two Milan clubs don't like sharing the stadium. It got so bad that the both couldn't even be arsed tidying it up and left it fall into a bit of a state. The San Siro tricks you into thinking it looks good. Get up close and it's a horrible dustbowl of a stadium. I'm sure I read once that it actually falls below standards to hold the big final/tournament type games. I'm not 100% certain mind you. DWOG - it wouldn't make sense to share a stadium in my view, it would seem paranormal going to a ground that our rivals also call their spiritual home. Anyway, it's time I manifested on another thread. |
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Jurgen Klopp: 'It's only this game because of the fans, that's what I know, think and feel. We have to entertain them, we have to make their life better. Football is not so important, we don't save lives. We're not doctors. It's our job that they can forget their problems for 90 minutes and then they can talk about the game.' | |
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| Misty77 | Jun 21 2012, 09:06 PM Post #6 |
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RS; I just happen to think that the Liverpool/Everton city rivalry means more to those that belong to the city of Liverpool. The football divide that splits families and friends alike. In my own town you'd be lucky to find a dozen Everton supporters from a collection of 30,000. That's how big they are here! ![]() Most Liverpool supporting Scousers would likely regard Everton as their bitterest rivals? But growing up for me has always been Man Utd, and I never classed Everton as being our main rivals, but as just another Darby opponent. |
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| DickWhiteog | Jun 21 2012, 09:17 PM Post #7 |
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You're probably right there Misty . I grew up with Everton as the enemy . They were an enemy on Derby days but many of my friends were blues . In fact come to think of it of the 5 of us who hung around together I was actually the only red. We argued like hell about football and were sworn enemies on derby day , but we would still make our way to the match together and we would sometimes go and watch the other team playwhen it was a cheap sport to watch. Over the years that has worn away somewhat regarding the sporting type of rivalry , it seems a tad more bitter nowadays but on merseyside Everton and Liverpool really should not share anything other than the city we are in and I was disappointed they did not go to Kirkby, myself . You would probably need to have lived on merseyside from the off to understand the feelings of quite a lot on both sides who prefer a park between us at the very least. |
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| Misty77 | Jun 21 2012, 09:17 PM Post #8 |
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Didn't know that about the San Siro. Always took it as a great big stadium steeped in history and the home of some of the greatest footballers. Kind of understand the fact that not one faction of support would feel in total allegiance to a stadium that they share with their city rivals. Maybe us sharing with the blues may not be such a wise thing after all. |
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| RedSilver | Jun 21 2012, 09:18 PM Post #9 |
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Funnily enough, the Man U games are the first I look for when the fixture list comes out...........I don't know exactly when that started to happen in truth but it never used to be like that. You're from Ireland Misty, that's why you hardly see any fans around where you live, but if you lived North Wales............... |
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Jurgen Klopp: 'It's only this game because of the fans, that's what I know, think and feel. We have to entertain them, we have to make their life better. Football is not so important, we don't save lives. We're not doctors. It's our job that they can forget their problems for 90 minutes and then they can talk about the game.' | |
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| RedSilver | Jun 21 2012, 09:24 PM Post #10 |
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At one time Italia 90 obviously and probably the rest of that decade it was a great stadium and it was graced by some of the greatest footballers ever - so was Upton Park - and the San Siro is still graced with some great football players - Upton Park isn't. We won't build a new stadium, anybody who lives in Liverpool or is a regular matchgoer will tell you that the area is increasingly being prepared (areas flattened, widened, bought up, etc) for a modernisation of Anfield. We will increase capacity/boxes in the coming years, I've 100% belief that will happen in the next few years. Not ITK, just a conclusion when you the area around the ground now to what was each past year over the last 5 years or so. |
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Jurgen Klopp: 'It's only this game because of the fans, that's what I know, think and feel. We have to entertain them, we have to make their life better. Football is not so important, we don't save lives. We're not doctors. It's our job that they can forget their problems for 90 minutes and then they can talk about the game.' | |
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| Misty77 | Jun 21 2012, 09:28 PM Post #11 |
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Good news then I'm sure. Though I read somewhere that the LCC themselves have been doing that work, and its not connected with the Club? Of course that could be false, and I never take anything for certain that I read about on the web. |
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| DickWhiteog | Jun 21 2012, 09:35 PM Post #12 |
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I would second that again but would then be accused of some form of man crush, but I have been saying for years now that the redevelopment of Anfield was the only way anybody would go forward for value for money, unless Arabs or billionaires bought us. The areas around the ground are nearly ready now for just such a scheme. Lothair Road must have 3 maybe 4 houses occupied the rest are empty and the roads off this are slowly emptying too. The houses around the Albert have all gone and the Anny Road now has no houses behind it. It would not cost much to reroute Anfield Road through the top end of the park whilst leaving the majority in place ( Car park could still partially remain). Another Kop but with corporate boxes could be built then . Once the Council agree the remaining tenants in Lothair road could be hit wit CPO s and a wad of compo from LFC and then a large upper tier could be built behind the existing Main stand with corporate boxes out of season and then the front section built thereafter without losing the current attendance levels. Corner sections could be added. In fact the ground could be turned 90 degrees and the kop and anny road extended sideways . The possibilities are endless and from a development point of view far more economically viable whilst retaining our history. |
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| fredflunk | Jun 21 2012, 09:37 PM Post #13 |
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would you rather re-gentrification of the area surrounding anfield or a new stadium? |
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| SpekeRed | Jun 22 2012, 07:00 AM Post #14 |
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Whatever expansion happens to Anfield! THE ALBERT HAS TO STAY! I'LL CHAIN MYSELF TO THE BOGS IF THEY PLAN TO KNOCK IT DOWN TO EXPAND THE GROUND! |
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Beside the hillsborough flame I heard a kopite mourning Why so many taken on that day Justice has never been done But there memory will carry on There`ll be glory round the fields of anfield road. Justice for the 96 RIP YNWA!!! | |
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| red machine | Jun 22 2012, 11:56 AM Post #15 |
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Imo they should just disband everton and amalginate it into lfc to form one club for the city...a super club ...call it liverpool city perhaps!!...wont happen of course but imagine the support it would have once up n running. Did you know misty,that everton were..still are by some..regarded as the catholic club of liverpool..was the reason my old dad supported them..or at least liked to see them win..and many older folk who were catholic were the same too regardless of were they were from. If you know your history...just saying,thats all! :lol: |
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| Stefan | Jun 22 2012, 03:31 PM Post #16 |
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So your saying LFC are mostly protestant? Thats another good reason to support L.F.C |
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| Misty77 | Jun 22 2012, 05:26 PM Post #17 |
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That's the problem though isn't it? Religion and football should never be associated with one another. I grew up supporting the Club that my grandad and uncles did all their lives. If that so happened to be Glasgow Rangers, Linfield, or even Everton I would have done so all the same without apology. Nobody should have to support a team just because they're associated with one religion or another. Its a sport FFS. |
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| DickWhiteog | Jun 22 2012, 06:40 PM Post #18 |
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You lot need to behave yourselves , most scouse Liverpool fans would not give a toss what religion anyone was as long as they supported Liverpool. The religious divide was long gone on merseyside even when I was growing up , thankfully. Kindly leave religion and the inherent bigotted arguments off a football forum please , its not warranted and to me personally there is no difference what you are , its how you behave that counts . |
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| fredflunk | Jun 22 2012, 06:56 PM Post #19 |
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run by a catholic manager :lol: |
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| rip96 | Jun 22 2012, 08:19 PM Post #20 |
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My cousin is the new mayor of liverpool. I spoke with him last week congratulating him on his OBE,he just received, and reminded him as he's a blue no to any ground share. Had enough sharing the same air as the bitters. |
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| red machine | Jun 22 2012, 08:23 PM Post #21 |
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misty..absolutly ...no room for that in any sport imo(one of the reasons i follow neither celtic or rangers and couldnt give a fook about either of them).Lfc is my only team...but dickky (or is it tricky?? ) it is true that efc are percieved as the catholic club..st domingo....and it used to be rather truer than it is now as well.lfc is not exactly a prodestant club..was just that efc was the catholic one steffan.Thanfuly thats kind of receeded now though. |
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| rip96 | Jun 22 2012, 08:41 PM Post #22 |
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Everton where called still dominions boys club. Liverpool where founded by a freemasonry and Scottish conservative. However over the years we liverpool have had more players play for the republic while everton have had more players play for the northern,and had more people,agers go between rangers. Moyes is not a catholic, he played. Hand full of games for celtic hovered when asked by the echo, when arrived at woodison he said he supports the blue half of Glasgow. Most scouser reds do give a shite about religion and today we lfc have more an affinity with celtic than rangers. |
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| rip96 | Jun 22 2012, 08:54 PM Post #23 |
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As for the bitterness of derby games now, for anyone not knowing, both sets of lads are called the urchins. Why and how. Well way back in the yank bar days a certain blue friend or friends of mine started calling the younger ones urchins both lfc and efc. For anyone who knows, the old efc lads ran as the committee where we all shared the same boozer. Today the lfc urchins are a strong crew and so are the blues,however the blues mostly bitter not seeing this through red glasses either,are the main ones to have a kick off at derby games. What I dislike about everton is the fact the sold out to the mancs,and have built a affinity if you like with them. This churns my stomach and I sat with a top lad from the old committees month a cousin of mine and told them so how i feel as a red. Eve ton don't mean a thing to me,there nothing,they take liberties on daft day trippers in town on derby day and call it a result,while the real red urchins have had enough and are hitting back. Everytime the old committee rang me from chelsea or other places and told the bizzies had it boxed of it would be a millionaire now if they gave me pound. Then again what do I know about lfc |
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| rip96 | Jun 22 2012, 09:02 PM Post #24 |
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And there one or on here who ran about with us back then,who exactly what am on about.
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| Camelot | Jun 23 2012, 02:25 AM Post #25 |
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However much the Milan clubs may dislike sharing a stadium, one of the outcomes is that they have also been sharing the succession of Serie A scudettos which have arrived with great regularity in that stadium. Only Juve has interspersed the succession, and they are a special case. Other former powerhouses, Roma for example, while having their own independent stadium, have all but disappeared as legititimate challengers. Fiorentina, Lazio, etc. are nowwhere, and there is no prospect of a recovery in the forseeable future that I am aware of. |
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