Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
~ WELCOME TO KOP THIS.....SIGN UP TO HOLLYWOODS WORLD CUP PREDICTION LEAGUE AND WIN A BOTTLE OF RUM AND £1000 CASH!!!............FOLLOW THIS LINK: https://predictor.talksport.com/public/#/home .........YNWA. ~
Welcome to KOP THIS. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
TMreply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 5
Sackable Offence For That Defence
Topic Started: Sep 13 2017, 09:02 PM (1,548 Views)
John_Boy

Legendary Reds
Klopp said ages ago... This is now his team. Arrogant and stubborn. Good manager... But letting his pride come before his fall. Disgraceful.
The ring master says the circus show must go on! 🎪
on profile PBquote top
 
ThePenkethPedant

Super Reds
Snigger
Oct 22 2017, 06:43 PM
parks
Oct 22 2017, 06:32 PM
I don’t think klopp was backed. Look at the side today.

Mignolet rodgers
Gomez rodgers
Lovren rodgers
Moreno rodgers
Milner rodgers
Can rodgers
Sturridge Rodger
Firmino rodgers
Coutinho rodgers

This is Klopp’s side ? There’s definitely something political going on. Klopp’s has half the money rodgers has had even though incoming money through tv and sponsors has given us a lot more. Purse strings have been pulled in, why ?

We all read pieces from certain journos, ( all connected with lfc ) that Fsg we’re giving klopp a massive war chest - all leaked bull sh*t imo.

seems strange a manger playing 2 seasons later with the bulk of the previous managers players. A team he inherited that were sliding down the table at an alarming rate. I think Fsg told him there won’t be a lot of money and he needs to work with the majority of the players he has. He’s not pulling the signings in imo. Most of our signings were targets of ours under rodgers/ committee.

Parks, Klopp has publicly stated there are no excuses. To be fair and be fair we must, there is no way we can imply this is Rodgers team or his shadow is lingering over matters, to imply or state that is to also totally ignore the Transfer Committee's involvement during Rodgers' tenure, also it could then be argued Rodgers got us into the Top 4 last season and if we win anything this season, that is also Rodgers doing.
But did Jurgen take us to two finals with Rodgers' team ? He lost both, of course...
off profile PBquote top
 
Snigger
Member Avatar

Elite Reds
ThePenkethPedant
Oct 22 2017, 06:58 PM
Snigger
Oct 22 2017, 06:43 PM
parks
Oct 22 2017, 06:32 PM
I don’t think klopp was backed. Look at the side today.

Mignolet rodgers
Gomez rodgers
Lovren rodgers
Moreno rodgers
Milner rodgers
Can rodgers
Sturridge Rodger
Firmino rodgers
Coutinho rodgers

This is Klopp’s side ? There’s definitely something political going on. Klopp’s has half the money rodgers has had even though incoming money through tv and sponsors has given us a lot more. Purse strings have been pulled in, why ?

We all read pieces from certain journos, ( all connected with lfc ) that Fsg we’re giving klopp a massive war chest - all leaked bull sh*t imo.

seems strange a manger playing 2 seasons later with the bulk of the previous managers players. A team he inherited that were sliding down the table at an alarming rate. I think Fsg told him there won’t be a lot of money and he needs to work with the majority of the players he has. He’s not pulling the signings in imo. Most of our signings were targets of ours under rodgers/ committee.

Parks, Klopp has publicly stated there are no excuses. To be fair and be fair we must, there is no way we can imply this is Rodgers team or his shadow is lingering over matters, to imply or state that is to also totally ignore the Transfer Committee's involvement during Rodgers' tenure, also it could then be argued Rodgers got us into the Top 4 last season and if we win anything this season, that is also Rodgers doing.
But did Jurgen take us to two finals with Rodgers' team ? He lost both, of course...
Hmm interesting spin and or take on matters there PP. ;)
THE ABOVE CONTRIBUTION IS SIMPLY AN OPINION. I AM NOT LOOKING TO BITTERLY ARGUE OR FALL OUT BUT RATHER MATURELY DEBATE MATTERS SHOULD IT DIFFER FROM YOURS

FOOD IS HABIT FORMING !!!
on profile PBquote top
 
parks

Die-hard Reds
Rodgers/committee bought the majority of the 11 that started today. They weren’t good enough under rodgers and they’re not good enough under klopp. The defence hasn’t improved in the past 3 or 4 years. They’re not good enough.

If klopp was given the same money rodgers got then I’d want him gone at the end of the season if we slide. Fact is he’s had a fraction of what rodgers/committee had. 8/9 players playing today signed by the previous regime. Something’s not right.
off profile PBquote top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

parks
Oct 22 2017, 07:18 PM
Rodgers/committee bought the majority of the 11 that started today. They weren’t good enough under rodgers and they’re not good enough under klopp. The defence hasn’t improved in the past 3 or 4 years. They’re not good enough.

If klopp was given the same money rodgers got then I’d want him gone at the end of the season if we slide. Fact is he’s had a fraction of what rodgers/committee had. 8/9 players playing today signed by the previous regime. Something’s not right.
Parks what about JK had the money but wanted to spend it only on particular players. Nothing else. Maybe thats why we ended with Loveren and Matip.
PBquote top
 
parks

Die-hard Reds
ivan57
Oct 22 2017, 07:22 PM
parks
Oct 22 2017, 07:18 PM
Rodgers/committee bought the majority of the 11 that started today. They weren’t good enough under rodgers and they’re not good enough under klopp. The defence hasn’t improved in the past 3 or 4 years. They’re not good enough.

If klopp was given the same money rodgers got then I’d want him gone at the end of the season if we slide. Fact is he’s had a fraction of what rodgers/committee had. 8/9 players playing today signed by the previous regime. Something’s not right.
Parks what about JK had the money but wanted to spend it only on particular players. Nothing else. Maybe thats why we ended with Loveren and Matip.
If he wanted certain players but wasn’t allowed so he didn’t sign then hats off to him Ivan.
If he wanted certain players and Fsg said no he’s turned around and said no point getting third or fourth choice as they’d be no better off than we are now.



Take Vvd for example, Klopp wanted him. Club leak it to press, Fsg issue a grovelling apology and say we’ve ended our interest. Klopp not going for a 2nd-4th choice. Too long we’ve gone quantity over quality. Whether vvd was the answer or not, it’s pretty clear Klopp wanted him. If klopp wanted and was desperate for vvd, Who the f**k extended lovrens contract ?
off profile PBquote top
 
chalky the red

Elite Reds
Here we go,,, it's a committee player,,, it's a Rodgers player,,, it's a klopp player,,,,
They are all Liverpool playes and klopp is the manager....
I have been told time and again, when defending Rodgers record that....the manager is responsible,,,, if that was true then, it's true now.

Klopp has had opportunity to ged rid of, or refuse to play players he does not fancy....it's his team,the man said it himself , no excuses.
"There are no real gods , only those that believe gods are real"
Unknown
off profile PBquote top
 
Aussiepool
Member Avatar

Elite Reds
I agree with Chalky. Today we had an experienced back 5 ( including keeper ) that are millionaire professional footballers with multiple Intenational caps behind them yet they defended like a pack of school boys who were put on a field for the very first time.

How is this Brendan's fault or whoever was in the transfer comittee a few years ago where most were recruited ( bar Matip )
All 4 goals conceded were unforced errors , quite possibly the absolute worse collective defending I've ever seen from a Liverpool team the past 4 decades. Maybe even worse than the 6-1 Stoke debacle from 2-3 years ago as they at least earned some of their goals that day.

Back to Klopp and his coaching staff. What exactly is that you do in training and what kind of defensive drills do you run with this lot ?

Keeper that never shouts for the ball and flaps on crosses when he's supposed to hold his line or takes off searching for pigeons and misses the ball completely.

A CB that misses the easiest of headers cause he took his eye off the ball on one goal , while his partner was raising his hand looking for a non existent offside from a throw in and then later on together allowed Son to run right through them as they parted the Red Sea again.

Then ofcourse we had the weakest of headers cleared by our 7 foot tall CB for the only Spurs player in sight to have a free shot at goal surrounded by 6 Liverpool statues.

Perhaps after the United park the bus by Jose 0-0 draw and beating a bunch of amateurs 7-0 in Slovenia the time to run to the media by certain players bragging how they turned the corner and this is a confidence boost etc was not the best of ideas.

Klopp should bin the lot of them bar Gomez and start fresh next week : Ward , Arnold, Robertson, Gomez and I don't know play anyone else at CB even Grujic. He can't be any worse than what weve seen from Matip could he ?



Edited by Aussiepool, Oct 22 2017, 08:31 PM.
off profile PBquote top
 
John_Boy

Legendary Reds
Klopp is at fault
The ring master says the circus show must go on! 🎪
on profile PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
If klopp picks them there his choice and he is failing badly in defence so its ALL down to him .
off profile PBquote top
 
DickWhiteog
Member Avatar

Elite Reds
The Regular CB he brought in on a free is showing exactly why he was free . Matip seems to escape criticism yet he is as bad if not worse than the others .
Veritas Vos Liberabit - John 8:32
for all those affected by Hillsborough
off profile PBquote top
 
Aussiepool
Member Avatar

Elite Reds
As Klopp said both Matip and Lovren were equally at fault but he couldn't take both of them off so he picked Lovren.

Matip gets less criticism than Lovren only be cause he appears composed and his movements effortless. Basically he is the shittiest version of Alan Hansen in the World of defenders.

Lovren is a nervous wreck in desperate need of Xanax.
off profile PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
Aussiepool
Oct 22 2017, 09:28 PM
As Klopp said both Matip and Lovren were equally at fault but he couldn't take both of them off so he picked Lovren.

Matip gets less criticism than Lovren only be cause he appears composed and his movements effortless. Basically he is the shittiest version of Alan Hansen in the World of defenders.

Lovren is a nervous wreck in desperate need of Xanax.
The fans are nervous wrecks watching him ,tick tock klopp .
off profile PBquote top
 
red machine
Member Avatar

Die-hard Reds
Who will be the next well paid fall guy at lfc..?

No doubt about it klop is making huge mistakes with his selections and formations.letting shako go is coming back to haunt him too.

HOWEVER.....

klop is the smoke screen for fsg...no investment in the team in real terms...buying inferior players...freebies...constantly being linked with players...spin...non materialising...

Many of the players who should no longer be at lfc are...mingolet given a 5 year contract....purely because they will accept lower money than others and it is cheaper to keep them to fill positions in the team and ensure any they do bring in will also fit in to a reduced wage bill.

I we look at yesterdays team there is mingolet ..useless but still no.1 matip ..a freebee...lovren...was a mess when he arrived and still plays...Moreno..is useless defending but was also a cheapie...Gomez...from Charlton athletic and out of his depth but being asked to perform at much higher level.
This is repeated throughout the team.
off profile PBquote top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

Loveren had his contract EXTENDED few months ago.....wtf.
PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
ivan57
Oct 23 2017, 08:52 AM
Loveren had his contract EXTENDED few months ago.....wtf.
and it was on klopps say so TICK TOCK KLOPP :thumbsdown:
off profile PBquote top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

A very interesting observation by another Liverpool fan posting on a different forum.



I made a conscious effort of getting into Wembley early today so I could watch our players warm up. What I witnessed shows Klopp's attitude to defending and why we concede goals for fun!

Moreno and Gomez, today's full backs did no defensive drills at all, they were asked to constantly put crosses into the box for our midfielders and attackers to try and finish. While this was going on Lovren and Matip merely passed the ball to each other or threw the ball up for the other to head, what the actual [oops] is going on seriously?

At no point did we practice defending as a four, or getting into shape, or even working against our own attack. I was absolutely gobsmacked at the lack of attention we paid to defending, especially when we are up against Harry Kane. The only shock after this was that Spurs only scored 4.

To sum up, a complete and utter defensive shambles, the same as every other week.
PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
Since Sunday Lovren as blocked his picture&occupation on Instagram it's the first things he's blocked all season :ike:
off profile PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
TIME FOR A BUMP
off profile PBquote top
 
DickWhiteog
Member Avatar

Elite Reds
TIME FOR A DEFENSIVE COACH and some decent defenders.
Veritas Vos Liberabit - John 8:32
for all those affected by Hillsborough
off profile PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
DickWhiteog
Nov 21 2017, 09:53 PM
TIME FOR A DEFENSIVE COACH and some decent defenders.
But Jurgan can write a book on defending didnt yer know (as i said at the weekend he is a fool )
off profile PBquote top
 
cactusjon
Member Avatar
Moderator
TIME TO TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF
Posted Image
off profile PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
cactusjon
Nov 21 2017, 10:03 PM
TIME TO TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF
ONLY IF YER WRONG
off profile PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
DickWhiteog
Nov 21 2017, 09:53 PM
TIME FOR A DEFENSIVE COACH and some decent defenders.
FOUR transfer windows how many does it take to sort a defence ??????? :thumbsdown:
off profile PBquote top
 
bazaDred

Die-hard Reds
after the arsenal fck up its well worth a bump for this topic
off profile PBquote top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · LFC General · Next Topic »
TMreply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 5