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Topic Started: Jan 6 2015, 05:07 PM (821 Views)
ScarfDyedCrimson
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Robo animals have been unleashed and there is no stopping Tumblr.

May god have mercy on our souls.

Robo bambi mob boss is love.

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I am off to join the Bambi cult.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/r...o-clips-181802/

Also there are a bunch of clips and Steeljaw is even awesomer then I thought.
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Everything about Alone Together is love. Best TCC storyline yet. Fanart, real art, characterization, everything. Pure love.
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Who are these characters and what's their relationship to each other?
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Transmutate and Rampage.

"But the best part about it is the main characters. You have Transmutate, who is innocent, curious, and has trouble understanding social interactions and the subtleties therein. She’s honest (to the point of bluntness sometimes) and protective, either of herself, or of her traveling companion, Rampage.

Rampage is a massive, violent creature who claims he feeds off of torment, rage, anger, the whole nine yards. But he’s the one who’s tormented, enraged, angry, due to being essentially an unkillable lab rat. He’s a Point One Percenter, a very powerful being whose upper limits are not truly known - the likes of Grimlock, Overlord, and Sixshot in the IDW continuity. And he knows that Transmutate is likewise a Point One Percenter, and also an outcast who feels out-of-place in their society.

They feel for each other, even if one would never admit it outright, and the other is not entirely sure how to express it. But it shows when they’re threatened by the Destructons - they actively try to protect each other. Mutually. Even here, when both are properly refueled, Rampage does not take issue with Transmutate putting herself between him and Lord Imperious Delirious, despite being larger and (arguably) more powerful at this point in the story. Moreover, while Rampage believes they are both broken freaks, Transmutate refuses that assessment, as seen in the bottom panel, and likewise refuses to let Rampage believe that."

The creepy guy is Lord Imperious Delirious, leader of the Destructcons. He's using his Delirious Fire attack in one panel to plunge Rampage and Transmutate into hallucinations.

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Wait, those two and Grimlock are all in the league of Overlord and Sixshot? Just how beastly are they? Not that I'm complaining about Grimlock being a monster, I'm just surprised, having seen what the Phase Sixers can do.

Also, where do Optimus Prime and Megatron fit on this power scale?
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IDW-wise, the Phase Sixers are heavily upgraded Point One Percenters. Grimlock falls just a bit under them, in close quarters combat anyway. Optimus Prime and Megatron are on similar levels. It's their firepower and general invulnerabilty to anything other then blunt trauma that makes them super stronk @ Phase Sixers

I can't speak for Transmutate and Rampage since they're from the Beast Wars Uprising universe, where Point One is only used as a distinction of their being outcasts and having unique powers.
Edited by ScarfDyedCrimson, Jan 27 2015, 09:54 PM.
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Overlord, Sixshot and Black Shadow come across as ridiculously powerful based on what I've seen. Them versus other Transformers seems like Goku versus 90% of anime characters, such that even Optimus and Megatron are overshadowed. I mean, firepower and general invulnerability is pretty significant.
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Yeah. Their being Point One Percenters is what made them eligible for the Phase Six upgrades in the first place.
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So basically, what you're saying is: Overlord, Sixshot and Black Shadow are still stupidly OP with virtually no rivals that are any smaller than Metroplex.
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The Autobots have yet to institute a similar program, no. That said, all of them are currently off the map. Black Shadow was murdered by the DJD, Sixshot is MIA, Overlord was beaten by Autobots twice.

(Optimus beat Sixshot once, getting within melee range and punching him, because punching is actually effective against them since the blunt trauma goes past their invulnerable exoskeleton and hurts them)
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How was Overlord beaten again? And how does blunt trauma defeat an exoskeleton invulnerable to everything else?
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If armor is thick enough blows just bounce off. The Phase Sixers aren't strong because their armor is thick, but because it was infused with ununtrium.

"Drawn from the compacted subatomic matter of a collapsed star, Ununtrium is an incredibly rare, indestructible metal bonded to the endoskeletons of Warriors Elite to massively increase their durability."

It basically renders them immune to laser fire and piercing weaponry, but stuff that works by delivering a shock, blunt blows, should work. They also have joints like everyone else.

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Not that he cared at all, but Overlord's eye was pierced by a harpoon readily.

Overlord was beaten by the first time when thousands of explosive chips burrowed in to his armor then detonated (though he survived that, if reduced to a flaming skeleton). Technically what defeated him was causing him to lose the will to live.

The second time he was shunted out in to space and hit by a weapon designed to blow apart asteroids. (though he appeared to be mostly intact, if incapacitated for the time being)

(You should read Last Stand of the Wreckers sometimes; Miek gave you access to his Comixology account for such a reason)
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Still, Overlord wasn't beaten in combat by any one (or even two) Autobots. I still don't like how he made fools of Ultra Magnus and Fortress Maximus. Sergeant Epps wasn't wrong when he demanded: "Why do Decepticons always get the good shit?"
Edited by Omega Prime, Jan 28 2015, 12:11 AM.
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Because if the villains were weaker then the heroes or on even terms with them, their defeats wouldn't be as triumphant, the strategies and tactics used to defeat them wouldn't be of import, and it would defeat the purpose.

To ask why the villains get the good stuff is to ask why video games have boss battles.
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One can make battles and tribulations a real challenge for the protagonists without neutering the protagonists too much. However, it seems that the IDW Phase Sixers are so ridiculously strong that Megatron himself is overshadowed by his own officers. Not to mention Shockwave, who is supposed to be among the most powerful of Decepticons as well.

There's also the fact that, since I invest in my heroes, I'd like them to be more than sacrificial lions. I'd like them to be able to rely on more than luck and circumstance to defeat their foes. Nothing triumphant about beating an enemy like Overlord through "tactics" when he basically killed two of your best. It's why I love Fairy Tail so much. Epic comebacks based on willpower and friendship are just that, epic, even if they're not quite so realistic or whatever.

Also, why don't you ever post news of Optimus Prime or any of his big guns kicking serious ass? Why is it always Overlord and his ilk making mincemeat of supposedly noble and valiant Autobots? Is it because the former doesn't even happen in IDW?
Edited by Omega Prime, Jan 28 2015, 12:22 AM.
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Starting from the bottom, it's primarily because I have a Decepticon bias. (That, and I didn't even bring up Overlord and his ilk this time, I brought up a story about Transmutate and Rampage)

Fortress Maximus was a prison warden, his prison got invaded, and he fell. He's not a hero, he was a secondary character that you like because of his name and appearance. The fall of Garrus-9 served to set up the events of Last Stand of the Wreckers, demonstrate Overlord's caliber as a villain and as the main antagonist of the series, and to exemplify the very real and gritty war feel that Last Stand of the Wreckers exemplifies.

A good leader always has command over forces stronger than him. Megatron in his time has commanded combiners, city bots, and entire worlds. The Phase Sixers were nothing without his ideology and vision. Sixshot is a nihilist, Black Shadow is greedy, and Overlord is a sadist with no greater ambitions than causing pain on a galactic scale. And for reference, Shockwave nearly destroyed all of creation in IDW and also killed Bumblebee, so he's very much a major threat. The same is oftentimes true of Megatron.

Ultra Magnus's "death" was avenged.
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Ultra Magnus' death was "avenged"? How? Oh let me guess. Through a team of brutally outmatched Autobots somehow defeating Overlord through luck and coincidence that could not be replicated if re-attempted a thousand times.

Basically, from what I've seen, I dislike the Phase Sixers because I think IDW did with them what Jurassic Park 3 did with Spinosaurus. In other words, some new characters were set up as badass specifically at the expense of other, more well-established characters, rather than being allowed to prove themselves on their own merits.

For all his ideology, Megatron is a warrior first and foremost. He created the Decepticons by being stronger and more brutal than everyone else in the room, and it bothers me to no end how some of his IDW followers have rendered him obsolescent on the battlefield. City bots and combiners are one thing, but Megatron has always been the most powerful combatant in his weight class with a propensity for slaying giants. And now you're telling me that three characters who barely exist outside of IDW are so much stronger than him? Meh. The same goes for Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobot big guns. Or do the Autobots even have big guns?
Edited by Omega Prime, Jan 28 2015, 12:37 AM.
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You did see Fortress Maximus punch Overlord, yes? Afterwards he was the one who ejected Overlord from the ship. Certainly, it was because Overlord was dazed at the time, but that's because his extremely fragile psyche is easy to take advantage of. You know, a weakness.

There's no such thing as well established characters, unless what they do elsewhere counts. IDW is the only continuity where Fortress Maximus is even regular-sized. In G1 cartoon, he's not even a character, he's an automaton operated by Spike and some whiny guy. In G1 comics, he's a pacifist. In RiD, he's also not a character. Only in the Headmasters cartoon is he his own character, a guy from planet Master, where he even replaces Rodimus as Autobot leader (which obviously isn't a favorable situation in a universe where Optimus is alive).

And for reference, Optimus has beaten Sixshot. And Megatron has defeated Overlord so many times Overlord has a pathological fear of defeat.

Sixshot was never compared to anyone, Fortress Maximus in IDW had approximately one other spoken appearance before LSOTW, and Black Shadow's badassery was juxtaposed with him lying on the ground being tortured.

Optimus defeated Sixshot on an occasion, and yes the Autobots have guys like Superion, Ultra Magnus, Grimlock, and currently Devastator.
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For me, well-established characters means the likes of Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee and Starscream. Prominent figures in the G1 cartoon that have ultimately lasted through time, as opposed to less-recognized figures such as Overlord, Sixshot and Fortress Maximus (I admit to having a bias in favour of the latter). Plus, are you sure Ultra Magnus still counts as a big gun? Did he ever redeem himself after being basically killed by Overlord?

Did Megatron defeat Overlord by beating him down physically, as you said that's one "weakness" of the Phase Sixers? Also how did the DJD wreck Black Shadow if he's so durable?

Edited by Omega Prime, Jan 28 2015, 01:23 AM.
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Yes, in brutal gladiatorial combat there's no one better than Megatron. Ultra Magnus is very badass, and does his share of badass things afterwards, yes.

Presumably because they knew him and his tactics intimately, and he evidently isn't immune to whirring blades tipped by the same substance he's infused with (like diamonds can cut diamonds), intense smelting heat, electricity, and having his face perforated.
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