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Round 6 - Final 18; Versus
Topic Started: Dec 9 2011, 03:26 AM (1,033 Views)
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This was our conversation after I saw all the White names on the lurker bar...

Blondzilla5150 (9:32:00 PM): ew
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:05 PM): the lurker bar looks awful
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:05 PM): and it starts
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:11 PM): let's change the legend
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:12 PM): daily
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:16 PM): kk
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:16 PM): in rainbow colors
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:18 PM): or something
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:23 PM): chang it to something else now
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:26 PM): we should give everyone their own colour
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:29 PM): omg
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:30 PM): yes
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:33 PM): do it
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:33 PM): but that means
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:36 PM): alol
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:39 PM): cutting off pms to 18 groups
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:41 PM): 18 pms
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:41 PM): when we do a challenge
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:45 PM): in bw2
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:48 PM): that is how
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:50 PM): he had it set up
Blondzilla5150 (9:32:53 PM): i swear to god
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:55 PM): alol
r i g h t e a 18 (9:32:58 PM): we could?
Blondzilla5150 (9:33:00 PM): i had to shut off pms for 11 people
Blondzilla5150 (9:33:02 PM): idk
Blondzilla5150 (9:33:07 PM): it would be so pretty
r i g h t e a 18 (9:33:13 PM): it really would
r i g h t e a 18 (9:33:24 PM): lets do it
Blondzilla5150 (9:33:29 PM): =o
r i g h t e a 18 (9:33:33 PM): but then
r i g h t e a 18 (9:33:37 PM): hot pink avis still?
Blondzilla5150 (9:34:07 PM): if we did the colors
Blondzilla5150 (9:34:11 PM): we'd keep rainbow
Blondzilla5150 (9:34:13 PM): avis
Blondzilla5150 (9:34:17 PM): idk this might be dumb
r i g h t e a 18 (9:34:19 PM): up to you
r i g h t e a 18 (9:34:38 PM): i am cool either way
Blondzilla5150 (9:35:05 PM): change their legend
Blondzilla5150 (9:35:09 PM): to something other than white
Blondzilla5150 (9:35:13 PM): or ours to pink
Blondzilla5150 (9:35:16 PM): this is an eye sore
Blondzilla5150 (9:35:20 PM): of epic proportions
r i g h t e a 18 (9:35:21 PM): lol you do it

Then later....

r i g h t e a 18 (9:41:22 PM): alol you didnt change their colour
Blondzilla5150 (9:41:31 PM): i am looking for one i like
Blondzilla5150 (9:41:34 PM): idk what tone
Blondzilla5150 (9:41:38 PM): we should give them
Blondzilla5150 (9:41:41 PM): what do you suggest
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:11 PM): we can make them red to match the name eplate
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:12 PM): maybe
r i g h t e a 18 (9:42:22 PM): true
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:34 PM): maybe
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:41 PM): we'll make a few groups
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:45 PM): and make them rainbow colors
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:48 PM): like 3 peeps
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:50 PM): in each group
Blondzilla5150 (9:42:55 PM): this will also freak them out
r i g h t e a 18 (9:43:20 PM): alolol
r i g h t e a 18 (9:43:24 PM): omw true
r i g h t e a 18 (9:43:33 PM): 6 colours
Blondzilla5150 (9:43:36 PM): k
r i g h t e a 18 (9:43:39 PM): red, orange, blue, yellow, green, purple
Blondzilla5150 (9:43:48 PM): blue like cyan
r i g h t e a 18 (9:43:56 PM): kk
r i g h t e a 18 (9:44:01 PM): i will do them
r i g h t e a 18 (9:44:06 PM): and you change the colours if you hate them
Blondzilla5150 (9:44:08 PM): k
Blondzilla5150 (9:44:09 PM): kk
r i g h t e a 18 (9:44:13 PM): fuck though
Blondzilla5150 (9:44:16 PM): wut
r i g h t e a 18 (9:44:21 PM): now i have to change the usergroups again lol
r i g h t e a 18 (9:44:22 PM): i just did that
Blondzilla5150 (9:44:25 PM): D:
r i g h t e a 18 (9:44:31 PM): oh well

This was my favorite post of speculating what it all means...

Peachy:
 
Anyway, I'm going on the record (I've certainly said it to a few people already) that I think these colors are like the "cliques" thing in BB a couple years ago. So if Zelda wins power, Sonic and I would be immune. This could continue until the jury phase.


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This round should be interesting. Giant merge rounds always end up being slighty, if not entirley crazy. I think a Big Brother round would lead to the least amount of chaos since a lot of people have chosen their target (or will throw).

Now, as far as last night - idk if I should even write this since I'm not sure if we are just trying to leave it in the past but I'd like to comment on the whole cheating situation.

First off, knowingly breaking a rule IS cheating. Bowser is correct on that. Breaking a rule, whether or not you are willing to that the consequence the follows is still breaking the rule and cheating. Knowingly breaking a rule is cheating. But that is just semantics.

The rule was clearly stated and even stated again in the TC preceding this one. They used this rule to further their game (or so they say). Technically, they did nothing wrong. Or Wolf I mean. He KNEW the rule, he willingly broke the rule, and he accepted any and all consequences for doing so.

Rules are put in place so that people to NOT have an unfair advantage in game. That is clear. This rule had consequences that ALLOWED for people to have an unfair advantage. But that is in no way the rule-makers fault. It is common knowledge that rules are put in place for games to run smoothly and again, without giving anyone and undair advantage. ALL GAMERS (or people in general) know this. Using a faulty consequence to a rule to better your position over someone who, if doing the sdame thing, would not have gained the same advantage is WRONG. It is, plain and simple. By exploiting the rule, Wolf/Sonic/Slippy and all of DS gained an unfair advantage over Bowser/Panther and Panther paid the price.

You can look at this two way. Firstly, it was well within the technical guidlines of the game (and any game) to "cheat." That is to say, if you are willing to ACCEPT any consequence fro breaking a rule, you may do so. So Wold was well within his means to do so.

On the flip side, most rules' consequences do not allow for you to place another player at an unfair disadvantage. This particular consequence did, very much so. The players knew this, and willingly used a rule to gain an unfair advantage. They, in essence, took any and all chance for power away from Bowser, knowing they would instead gain that power. By doing nothing strategic other than EXPLOITING a rule that gave them an advantage at that time. it was scummy, it was low and it hurt to watch Bowser go through that.

The fact is this. Emotions aside, I am willing to look at it the first way. But I will say this. They knew this was not the original intent of the consequence. BZ made this rule to deter anyone from EVER using their Triad Forum to help each other. Meaning, NO ONE should have EVER done it. EVER. It should not have been a thought that crossed anyone's mind. The rule was made for a specific reason and that was obvious. And they chose to break the rule knowing there was a flaw in the consequences of that rule. Had they broken another rule (lets say "not speaking outside the board") they would have recieved punishment that is FAIR to everyone in the game. By breaking this particular rule, they did manipulate the oringal intent by BZ. That is shitty and uncalled for.

Play the game as it is intended to be played. If it is OBVIOUS to you that by breaking this rule you are gaining a completley unfair advantage and you are using the rule in a different way then it is intended, then DON'T. Simple as that. It took a good amount of intelligence to pull this off, but also a good amount of douchebaggery. Can I say it should have never happened? Idk. I think everyone will learn from this. Yope was desperate and found a way to better his game. Had he been in any other position he would have never been down with this. It sucks but it is what it is.

I do certainly hope that no one ever takes advatage of something like this again. They clearly knew what they were doing was shitty b/c no one confessed about this master plan. And I think a lot of people's hands may be dirty on this one. Including a lot of people who usually consider the RIGHT thing to do most of the time. It is a game of deciet and lies and a "by any means neccessary" mentality but that ususally is not extended to fit the hosts or the rules.
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That was hot <3
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It really was <3 And with how just pissed I was about it last night, I just didn't go into it in here. I was going to today, but I think you covered it better than I would have anyway.

It just sucks though, that they are trying to justify it as strategy and I should just accept that that's ok. The fact is, it is NOT ok.

Anyways, I feel horrible for PT and NBS and if PT wins everything and fucks up all their shit, I will be very happy. Another thing is Wolf and his fake ass apologies and remorse. Seriously, FUCK HIM. I even told him last night on AIM that barring him from being given Power last night wasn't his only punishment. And his apologies and words will never be accepted by me because he is a scummy retard who I legit want to see gone from this game. Especially at the hands of Bowser or even Lucas who he randomly decided to target. He was oblivious and horrible with strategy last time and he is again here too.

I talked to T18 about barring these bitches from playing for Power on Sunday, and he said only Wolf should be. I agree. I am barring him from playing any competitions on Sunday save for a possible Duel in Arena Line. I will inform him of this later, of course. Because the fact that he thinks he can still win Power on Sunday according to his confessional is laughable and he's going to get bitch slapped hardcore when I inform him that I wasn't lying about more penalties for this shit.
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He's targeting Lucas for outside personal reasons, the same reason he got rid of Leon. :leon Wolf has decided to ask me to replace Toadette as the passenger on his fleet, and I will gladly do so, but only as a spy for the Hostlliance Empire. :overandout


Back to reality, as much as I love a ton of the people that circumvented that rule, it was pretty scummy...and if Panther didn't troll his way out of the game on purpose then this would be way worse...

Bowser's revenge mission is kinda hot, it'd be such a fun story to see him bring down the entirety of Nintendo Wars for almost ruining his game. Truthfully, I'm not looking forward to a :sonic :mario :epona :krystal :slippy :doopliss ending because I wasn't actively rooting for any of them, especially on DC with the exception of Peachy.

I really do want to see some damage done to them to shake up the established alliance.
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What does he have against Snoopy outside of this game? Fill us in. You can't say that and not explain. :o
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Snoopy is friends with IANCD, or at least someone IANCD trusts, and after IANCD fake quit and FDE decided to take that moment to gloat about it, Snoopy called him a miserable cunt or something, and so the two do not like each other at all.

The difference between them being Lucas didn't give a shit about Wolf until he learned Wolf was lying about him within minutes of the merge. Apparently he told Falcon Lucas wanted to target him last night.


Also, Slippy has been antagonizing Lucas in messages about cheating in his Kid Nation game.

It is almost as if this alliance WANTS to piss off the challenge whore, and It'd be just as satisfactory if Lucas won power at this point because it is ridiculous.
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Ay ya. Open ID games give me a headache.
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GaGa,Dec 9 2011
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I am barring him from playing any competitions on Sunday save for a possible Duel in Arena Line.

If it was me, I would bar him from all challenges without exception. I know you told me you were going to bar him from save challenges (Veto) if it was a Big Brother round. Why allow him to compete in a save challenge (Duel) in the other format? I think if you're going to come down on him about challenges, come down on him completely. Don't allow him to compete in any challenges at all, including the duel. Personally, i think he would deserve it. He accidentally broke the rule once, and purposely broke it a second time after he was warned not to. If he complains about it, fuck him. He said he's willing to accept all consequences of his actions.

That is my take on that.
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Barring him from a duel means he is auto-eliminated. I am not opposed to it, I just didn't think you would agree with something like that. He won't be allowed to compete in any challenges then. I am more than fine with that.
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Did you see Mario's latest confessional? Apparently one of them might pass him an Idol to save him. I may bar that. Thoughts?
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You know what I just realized and came here to post? Last night, Wolf essentially became the Metroid of this game. I detest him now in and out of this game and because of that, he is going to go far here, just watch. BUT as a huge ass goat and I will never cast him again and he will never live this down with me. I know people make mistakes and I have made my own, and I have forgiven and let go of many mistakes. But this shit was not a mistake and that's why it was different.

Even last night when Yope and madcunt admitted their shit to me, this retard still didn't say shit. He said he did it, but he was trying to stall to me in order to not rat them out, when they totally just came clean.

And then Mario saying they'll pass him a HII, even knowing that all of SSB want him out, that by taking him out that new shit for them can and WILL and IS coming into play they are choosing to save the retard. They are even worse than Lylat and crew the last time this happened and I find it utterly disgusting and very unrootable. The only people I hope prevail from NWs are Peachy and Bowser. The rest of my side can go fuck themselves.

And I am sure madcunt and Yope will defend their shit forever with their side of this, but I can care fucking less. Yope especially pretending like this is ok and not disrespectful and being like "I had to save my ass" is fucking pathetic. Bowser did win power and their tribe would have been safe, so even him saying that Panther winning PoV would have meant he left is a crock shit, seeing as how no PoV would have even played out on his side. Idiots.
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GaGa,Dec 9 2011
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Did you see Mario's latest confessional? Apparently one of them might pass him an Idol to save him. I may bar that. Thoughts?

I do not think that you should bar that. His punishment is not being able to play in challenges to potentially gain power or save himself. His punishment isn't stopping all forms of safety from coming his way.
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But Mario wanting to give Wolf an idol is totally disgusting and I hate Mario a little bit for that. How fucking stupid. What a complete waste. Mario will need that for HIMSELF sooner rather than later. To waste it on Wolf is just... retarded to me.
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Master Hand,Dec 9 2011
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GaGa,Dec 9 2011
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Did you see Mario's latest confessional? Apparently one of them might pass him an Idol to save him. I may bar that. Thoughts?

I do not think that you should bar that. His punishment is not being able to play in challenges to potentially gain power or save himself. His punishment isn't stopping all forms of safety from coming his way.

Yeah, I am not doing it. I was just saying it. lol But yeah, Mario is a moron and I hope if he does give it to Wolf, he eventually gets got because he wasted it on that retard.
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