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| Round 6 - Final 18; Versus | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 9 2011, 03:26 AM (1,034 Views) | |
| Koops | Dec 11 2011, 05:37 PM Post #31 |
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Nintendo Wars is so disorganized. I have no idea even what they want to do yet, it sounds like they are just hoping one of them ends up winning power and then they'll play an idol on Wolf. Smash is a lot more united and knows what they want. Of course this means shit since Nintendo Wars can all be safe if one of them wins power. I'm rooting for Smash as well. |
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| Toadette | Dec 11 2011, 07:51 PM Post #32 |
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OK basically caught up. At least the targets are still where I thought they would be. With tonight's challenge I don't see Bowser winning it. I'm hoping for Zelda and Lucas but could easily see Mario or Krsytal winning this one tonight. I know that could be said about all challenges but I'm sure PT wants to win this one and I don't see that happening. |
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| Koops | Dec 11 2011, 10:41 PM Post #33 |
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Krystal voting for Peachy when Epona is CLEARLY quitting is driving me nuts. Wow and what a shitty thing to do to someone, CO. The fact the vote was like, 6-5 or something before you did that and Peachy could have left over you is just not right at all. This round is just as bitter as the last one. <_< |
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| Master Hand | Dec 11 2011, 11:15 PM Post #34 |
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I hate CO and I honestly kind of hate his allies. What Daisy said in the lurker thread is so true. Epona has been bitching abd complaining about the game before it ever even started. He didn't want to play, and it sickens me that he outlasted so many people like Saria and Foxworth that actually DID give a shit and really did want to be here and play. Good riddance to him being out of the game, but the fact that his fucking allies were trying to save his whiny, useless ass again is just disgusting to me. I won't even get into what he did to twiggy. I love twiggy and there's no way I'm going to let this affect her on GTS at all. CO is the only one going down for this. I will make sure of it. |
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| Master Hand | Dec 11 2011, 11:18 PM Post #35 |
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Also, I think twiggy should still be eligible to be voted for in tomorrow's Game Reset. As fucked up as this is, I view her as a victim here more than as a culprit. |
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| GaGa | Dec 11 2011, 11:25 PM Post #36 |
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I agree with that 200%. She is eligible for the vote back in and I hope they all give it to her, because she was robbed and fucked over for absolutely no reason. |
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| Toadette | Dec 12 2011, 07:46 AM Post #37 |
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I was hoping you would allow it. I'm always a hard-liner on rules but that was just totally a shame about Twiggy. Olimar deserves a shot! |
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| Mario | Jan 2 2012, 03:30 PM Post #38 |
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K this shit happened almost a month ago and I'm sure we'd like to all forget about it but I feel the need to speak up on behalf of Wolf here. Everyone knew about the DQ thing on the NW side. Everyone other than Panther and Bowser. We were all aligned, especially Wolf, the alliance was his baby. When you are aligned you want all your allies to make the next round, no matter the cost. We knew the last pre-merge round was a single BB round. That meant DS had to win and the other tribe had to lose. And we knew Bowser was not willing to throw a challenge for the "team." So Wolf did the only thing he could to make 100% sure that night went the way the majority of us wanted, by exploiting a rule in the game. Was it shitty and wrong? Yes. But WE talked him into it. He did not come up with it on his own. He didn't do it for himself, he did it for his allies, because he is a TEAM player. Why the fuck would he do it otherwise, he was safe with his item. His tribe would have won and he would have been safe anyway. He did it for OUR tribe. For Peachy or Epona, in particular. That's why I would have passed the idol to him. Because it felt shitty that he was getting so dumped on for doing something he was convinced to do by others because we were unable to win the challenge fair and square. Wolf isn't some cheating villain he was made out to be, he was just being helpful or at worst an accessory to a crime we all knew about. Everyone wanted him gone for that one incident but nobody knew how much he really cared about the game and how he would even continue his schtick on AIM because he was so into it. Wolf was one of the best allies a guy could ever ask for, and he didn't do it because he was bff with everyone prior to the game. That's why I gave him a pity vote when he was nominated. That's why Slippy voted for him to return even though he had no shot. That's why we wish he was part of the jury. So if you want to call anyone shitty, or retarded, or pussies, you should be calling all of us on the NW side minus Bowser and Panther. Don't put all the blame on Wolf. Or even Slippy and Sonic. We ALL played a part in that. And for that I sincerely apologize to all the hosts and everyone who was affected by the incident. We were selfish. But it was only because we cared that much about our allies. Thank you and sorry again. |
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| Panther | Jan 2 2012, 04:44 PM Post #39 |
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I wanted so badly to find redemption this time after being ridiculed in Nintendo Wars...and even when I seek redemption and try to do something heroic....I get called a troll. It's unbelievable, man...
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| GaGa | Jan 3 2012, 10:07 AM Post #40 |
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I am sorry, sp. But everything you are saying to "defend" FDE and what he did in this game, just makes me feel like he's even more pathetic disrespectful idiot than I already thought/felt. He came to me after the first "mistake" and apologized profusely about how sorry he was he broke the rule in the Secret Triad forums and how it wouldn't happen again. Then later that night, he IMed me again to confirm that a rule like that being broken would disqualify his team from a win. When he did that, I was like "why the fuck is he asking me this again?" but after the next night when he intentionally and purposely did it, it made sense. He was getting confirmation from me that if he did it again that his tribe would lose power and he could intentionally cheat the system in order to gain and advantage in the game. And like you said, this was an advantage he personally didn't need. Which is again, why I think what he did was more pathetic and just plain stupid. I am not going to ever agree with you or say "Awe, he was doing it for the team, no biggie" because that's bullshit. And you coming in here and explaining how the rest of you pushed him to do this and that he shouldn't get shit on for it, just makes it more ridiculously gross and disrespectful to me and this game. And quite frankly makes me feel a little differently about your part in the situation now. He had a save that round with his item and he still intentionally broke a rule, disrespected me as a host and this game and the players he fucked over, and for what? So he could be accepted and loved by the rest of you? His entire goal was to please you all and try to be in with the "elite" of my side of the game. Which is why I likened him to Ewberry in Nintendo Wars and just in general now, his actions were to gain love and favor from a team of people using/forcing him ((by your own admission now)) to fuck with my rules and the game. If he had an ounce of brain, or if any of you really had the compassion or respect for him you convey now, you wouldn't have urged him to break a set rule to a game for personal game advantage. You do realize that by making him do that, and him doing it to, he broke a relationship and trust I had with him as a Host/person? Did he or any of you still think it was worth it? Seriously? It was insanely slimey when he did it, but again, your post just makes it where you all should be slammed and should apologize for doing that shit to PT, NBS and causing me problems and bullshit as a host. I am not going to ever change my mind on this and your rant looking out for someone that you admit to pushing into sabotaging his own game and breaking the rules for the "Team" is really just gross. And his doing that for a crowd of people while willingly and knowingly sacrificing a relationship with a host who has looked passed his past mistakes, IS shitty and retarded and pathetic. He broke the anon rules in Stranded and I had to boot him from that game right before merge. I didn't even post about it at GTS and I didn't fuck with him, it was a mistake and it got squashed. He broke the rule here in Round 4 and I accepted his apology and moved on. Then the third strike was him intentionally breaking a rule. Three strikes and you're out. I really can't trust him as a host to not break rules of a game, but especially the third time. I think it's really stupid most of you being solid, smart and respectful gamers, couldn't just let the game play out naturally and then let things happen, kind of like you did personally after merge when you didn't actively try to do anything to survive and let yourself and your allies naturally get ousted. And saying Bowser wasn't going to throw the challenge for the "Team"? So it was ok to cheat? Your whole post just makes me cringe more than mine here repeating myself 20 times. what the fuck. |
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| Mario | Jan 3 2012, 03:29 PM Post #41 |
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Alol it wasn't a rant, it was more just a confession that we all shared in the blame. He got scapegoated the most because he was the one who actually did the deed, but I'm pretty sure every single one of us would have done the same thing in his position. =/ I won't get into the psychological reasons as to why he did it, I will just assume he was being loyal and not sucking up to anyone. We should have let it play out naturally if we weren't so scared and didn't all have a disease that made us suck at challenges. K let's not argue about this any further. The whole point of my post was just "don't only hate Wolf, hate us all equally." Forgive me?
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| Peachy | Jan 3 2012, 10:33 PM Post #42 |
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My "involvement" in this is being highly overstated and after being beaten, battered, abused, and lied to so much in this game, I don't want this same abuse after this is over. Yes, I talked with MARIO the night prior thinking that it would make things easier if something like that happened, but my knowledge of the entire situation is minute at best. Wolf and I did NOT speak about this. This was not something that I would have ever felt comfortable asking him to do. I only had advanced talks with Mario saying "well, if he actually did it, then we could probably make sure to keep him safe". That mostly went back to things in the earlier days after the split when he and another member on his tribe mentioned "throwing us a bone" if the Blue tribe started to just steamroll over us. But even at that point, I told them "I don't think that these challenges you can even throw. Everything is going to be 'individual' before the merge." There were no definitive plans getting set in motions so far as I saw it. However, having been in the power up place with him, I knew that he had that veto item thing. That completely eliminated any incentive for him to do it, because perhaps before that, he could have had conditional safety, and after that he didn't fucking need a thing from us. After that, he had NO need to do that, so I wasn't going to consider broaching the fucking topic with him. That entire day of the "incident", I had spoken with Wolf quite a bit. Mostly it was talking about what might go down depending on whose side had to do BB and what might happen depending on which person got HoH. But his "words of assurance" for me? "I hope you'll be able to make it through the night." Nothing like : "Yeah, I'm going to get DQ'd". I find out afterwards that there were people that went early and talked to him about it, but I had NO clue even that people like Slippy or Sonic knew about it. So if you want to vilify me because I entertained the thought with someone that couldn't do jack shit directly about it, go for it, but to try to say that I was convincing [Wolf] or even knew he would do that is complete and utter folly. Any thought that I even had about that got dismissed after he had that veto item and plus when I thought more about his point of view and how colossally suicidal it would have been. I wouldn't ask him to torpedo his game for me. If he did it for me I appreciate it, but I'm certainly not so much of a dick to try to make someone to be a total scapegoat like that for me, because there was no doubt how that would end up... especially not in open-id knowing pretty much exactly what would have (and did) come out of it. |
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| Sonic | Jan 3 2012, 11:53 PM Post #43 |
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I don't think Mario was trying to vilify you. He was saying all of the NinWars side agreed it was the best solution. And yes I did get confirmation before we did it that you were in on it and cool with it, so whether or not we were talking about it (and I distinctly remember talking to you about it before it went down), I assumed you'd been filled in on it. It was basically done to save you anyways as Krystal had already offered to boot you to save me. |
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| Peachy | Jan 4 2012, 12:56 AM Post #44 |
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Well, it was the best solution for them. Not for Wolf. I knew what was going to come of him even doing that, so I backed off that stance. You saw what happened, and I flat out had said to "someone" that if he even did that, he'd come off as a fucking scumbag and depending on the survivors, he'd be absolutely fucked. I considered Wolf an ally, so I wouldn't have ever considered forcing him to do something like that, since it was basically game suicide. Maybe things came up after that. Maybe people wanted to keep that decision off the table what could have happened. But again, when I'm just getting "good luck" messages and shit the way I was, do you really think I was expecting that to happen? No. I was pretty much kind of expecting 70% to go home that night and I actually kind of had come to grips with it. I don't even want to know what your last line means though, because it almost sounds like you're saying Krystal would throw the challenge so you'd be safe. In the end, this was a fucking ugly game. Frankly, I'm done with this situation. If I'm going to be blamed for the "incident", then so be it. I've said my piece. |
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| Sonic | Jan 4 2012, 06:27 PM Post #45 |
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lol Peachy
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