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| Cipher53 | Jul 22 2009, 10:23 PM Post #3061 |
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Erusea would like to note the differences between the two aircraft, including the range of weapons that the Eurofighter is cleared to use, the larger weapons load of the Eurofighter, the Eurofighter's two engines versus the Gripen's one (Increased survivability at any rate), and a range of other differences that makes that price tag worthy. |
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| Sturmgewehr | Jul 22 2009, 10:27 PM Post #3062 |
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OOC: They both use the Aim-120. It may hold less though. |
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| lardlad | Jul 22 2009, 10:39 PM Post #3063 |
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Exactly what we were thinking. However, if you do wish to help us with the cost, we would not mind having you send us $10 billion. |
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| Cipher53 | Jul 22 2009, 10:44 PM Post #3064 |
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OOC: I'm mostly talking about the fact that you're selling something less capable to somebody who probably wouldn't know any better otherwise. The AIM-120 is not the only MRAAM in the world. |
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| lardlad | Jul 22 2009, 11:14 PM Post #3065 |
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Adriatic Republic Armed Forces Adriatic Republic Ground Forces Personnel (Active): 147,503 Personnel (Reserve): 12,000 Armor Main Battle Tanks Ariete: 200 M-95 Degman: 2 M-84: 54 M-84A4: 72 M-84D: 75 M-55: 30 stored, in reserve Leopard 1A5: 120 in reserve JVBT55: 7 VT55: 2 Tank Destroyer Centauro: 300 active, 100 reserve Infantry Fighting Vehicle Dardo: 200 VBM Freccia: 49 delivered, 249 planned BVP M-80A: 52 Valuk 6x6: 85 Tracked Armored Personnel Carrier M113/M113 A1: 3,000 VCC-1/VCC-2: 700 Bv206S: 189 Wheeled Armored Personnel Carrier Puma 6x6: 250 Puma 4x4: 330 Infantry Mobility Vehicle VM90/Armored VM90: 1,280 VTLM Lince: 1,260 Amphibious Assault Vehicle AAV7-A1: 35 LVPT7, 25 upgraded to AAV-7A1 standard Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Weapon SIDAM 25: 100? Armoured Engineering Vehicle Bergeleopard/biber/pionier: 120 Armored Fighting Vehicle Cougar: 6 M-80A: 128 BTR-50PK: 26 Patria AMV: 261 M-83 POLO: 37 LOV-1: 45 Iveco LMV: 94 HMMWV: 81 Otokar Cobra: 10 Mine Protected Vehicle Buffalo: 6 Self-Propelled Howitzer M109L: 192 PzH 2000: 70 2S1 Gvozdika: 9 D-30: 30 Towed Howitzer FH-70: 96 M56 105mm: 4 used for training with 40 in reserve D-30HR M94 122mm: 28 with 24 in reserve M-46H1 Gun 130mm: 36 in reserve M84 "NORA" 152mm: 16 M1H1 L-33 155mm: 18 M115 203mm: 22 in reserve M114 155mm: 12 155 mm Long Tom: 36 TN90 155 mm: 18 Multiple Launch Rocket System M270 MLRS: 22 BM-21 "Grad" 122 mm: 36 in reserve RAK-12: 8 with 60 in reserve M-63 Plamen: 200 with some in reserve M-94 'Plamen S: 4 M-96 Tajfun 122 mm: 2 M-91 Vulkan 122 mm: 8 M-87 "Orkan" 262 mm: 4 Mortars 120mm F1 Mortar: 180 Hirtenberger M6-111 60mm Mortar: 300 60mm Mortar: 69 with 270 in reserve 82mm M96 Mortar: 69 with 270 in reserve 120mm M75 Mortar: 48 with 280 in reserve 120mm SP-mortar: 8 in reserve MN 9 120 mm: 36 Surface to Air Missile Systems MIM HAWK: 60 SPADA 2000: 50 Aspide: 5 FSAF-SAMP IT: 6 Logistics Mercedes-Benz G-Class: 125? Land Rover Wolf: 125? Toyota Land Cruiser: 125? Nissan Navara: 125? Various Mercedes-Benz, Iveco, MAN, TAM, FAP vehicles: 1,200 Field Ambulance Trucks and 4WD vehicles: 100 Special Vehicles (!?): 150 Puch 300gd: 10 FAP trucks: 20 TAM trucks: 20 Armored Bridgelayer MT-55: 4 Aviation Attack Helicopters Agusta A129 Mangusta: 60 Utility Helicopters Agusta A109: 12 Bell 205: 42 Bell 206: 40 Transport Helicopters Bell 412: 23 Boeing CH-47 Chinook: 24 NHI NH90: 60 Utility Transport Helicopters Dornier Do 228: 3 Piaggio P180 Avanti: 3 DO NAVY, AIR FORCE WIP |
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| Sturmgewehr | Jul 22 2009, 11:24 PM Post #3066 |
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OOC: I'm saying the Aim-120 is the longest range missile carried by both aircraft according to wiki, though yes the Gripen carries less. But would it not make sense to have three Gripen for each Eurofighter? And lardlad it would save you $18 Billion, not $10 Billion. |
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| lardlad | Jul 22 2009, 11:31 PM Post #3067 |
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OOC: Whatever. IC: If you want to help, send the dough. We can build them ourselves. We thank you for the offer, though. |
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| Thetyler95 | Jul 22 2009, 11:35 PM Post #3068 |
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*Classified* 50,000 reserve personnel are called to active duty, bring the number active to 200,000. The government has adopted a stronger defense policy, soldiers will receive training in all forms of warfare such as urban, guerilla, unconventional, etc. After receiving the advanced defense training, they will be educated in survival, allowing them to survive in the Union's harsh steppes and forests in case of a war of attrition. |
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| Simplex | Jul 22 2009, 11:44 PM Post #3069 |
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Debate is starting... Congressman from all states will be attending this debate, as well as, other representatives from other nations can attend this meeting to show that we will back up our talk about the USS being a democratic state. Speaker; " This debate has started. " Fed Representatives: " To start off this debate, we will argue our decision by stating, we want Western Sahara to stay apart of the United States of Spain. Why? Because that Western Sahara's population deserves better. Even though your population is only 300,000 people, poverty in your nation is out standing. The literacy level of Western Sahara, and education in general, is the lowest in the world. More than 75% of the people in your nation has either HIV, or AIDS. Your nation also has the highest population growth in the world, how are these people going to be feed? How are they going to fight against various types of disease's such as AIDS/HIV. Economic wise, Western Sahara has an out standing unemployment rate. How are these people going to improve their lives without money? over all, Western Morocco has no type of economic base, none at all. And all of this is due to the en adequacy of governance, corruption, and local civil wars, tribe vs tride, and village, vs village. Our government as of right now, are helping your people get back on there feet. We have industries in western Sahara building factories to provide, and establish a firm economic base in Western Sahara. With the jobs, your people will be able to buy basic human needs, such as shelter, and other types of stuff. We have also begun multiple government projects with in the Western Sahara, such as creating a clean power grid, giving power to the 300,000 people in your nation, as well as, we have improved the H2O facilities, so your people can drink clean water. The National Spanish high way system, and road way system is expanding with in your country, this will also produce thousands of jobs. Last but not lease, we have cleaned up your streets, this will increase the health of your citizens.... While on the issue of health, multiple clinics have been established in the Western Sahara, as well as, 2 hospitals are under construction there. With all of this, we hope to win over the minds of your people to stay as an autonomy state of the United States. Whats your say> (OOC: Minda, please ? ) |
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| Elph | Jul 23 2009, 12:32 AM Post #3070 |
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The recruits are now on active duty. |
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| Cipher53 | Jul 23 2009, 12:38 AM Post #3071 |
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OOC: This completely contradicts what has been said, an invasion has not even been made..
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| Jacapo Saladin | Jul 23 2009, 12:52 AM Post #3072 |
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The people don't want to be part of you, autonomous or not. We would vote for complete independence, but also we have something else to say. This is a complete puppet sham of a state you have. We didnt elect any leaders, you basically said "You are now a part of us, congratulations" and then you setup your own leaders. You still do not control us, nor will you ever. |
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| Lelouch Lamparouge | Jul 23 2009, 02:18 AM Post #3073 |
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So, would the people of the SADR welcome, or scorn Warsaw Troops if they did arrive to help them? **Classified to SADR Government in Exile** We would train, and equip your Military, even lease you Aircraft, Tanks, and Naval Vessels if you should wish. |
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| Lelouch Lamparouge | Jul 23 2009, 02:41 AM Post #3074 |
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The Conscripts have entered service, and are going through remedial training with the Infantry fresh from the Balkan War. Meanwhile, as part of continued Economic Reform, the State has begun the re-structuring of the Defense Industry. Antonov Heavy Industries(AHI) will be in control of Most Defense Contracts, and other things. It will be owned 49% by Private Investors and 51% by the Government. It will contain Ivchenko-Progress Antonov Airlines Antonov Trolley and Rail Industrial Applications Państwowe Zakłady Lotnicze Elektrim FSO Solaris Bus & Coach Fablok FŁT-Kraśnik SA A.M. Makarov Yuzhny Machine-Building Plant From there, there is The Kieve Ship Manufacturing Conglomerate (Yes, Kieve) Державне конструкторське бюро «Південне» ім. М. К. Янгеля Chernomorskiy Shipbuilding Kherson Shipyard Sevastopol Shipyard Zaliv Shipbuilding yard Mariupol Shipyard Leninska Kuznya Shipyard Gdańsk Shipyard Stocznia Gdynia Aker Tulcea Braila Shipyard Damen Galati Santierul Naval Constanta SA Szczecin Nowa |
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| Phsoccer | Jul 23 2009, 02:47 AM Post #3075 |
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Due ot the lack of foreign interest the contracts have been awarded to local contractors and work is beginning. |
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