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| Topic Started: Jun 23 2015, 02:43 PM (176 Views) | |
| BotanThePhilosopher | Jun 23 2015, 02:43 PM Post #1 |
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I have a question about C98 Key which states: Draw: Discard this item to discard a technique in play and gain 3 spirit energy. My question is, can you discard Key and still gain 3 spirit without discarding a technique in play? Or do you have to do both in order to get either effect? Thanks
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| Cynic_Focus | Jun 23 2015, 02:47 PM Post #2 |
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I always played it as either or. Most of the time I played it without discarding a technique. |
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| BotanThePhilosopher | Jun 23 2015, 02:50 PM Post #3 |
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That is what I thought. Thanks! |
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| Cynic_Focus | Jun 23 2015, 02:55 PM Post #4 |
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I recommend downloading the document at the very bottom of the link. I find it very useful. There's a handful of cards that have been errata'd so it's worth a look. Link: https://sites.google.com/site/yuyuhakushotc...es-team-bonuses |
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| Karmic | Jun 23 2015, 03:33 PM Post #5 |
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https://web.archive.org/web/20070724171531/...crd/yuyucrd.pdf This is a listing of all card erratas and rulings, I always figured to get one part of Key's effect, you had to get the other, due to the wording of the effect "Draw: Discard this item to discard a technique in play and gain 3 (SP)", would imply that you must discard a technique to gain the 3 spirit energy. |
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| inviso | Jun 23 2015, 03:46 PM Post #6 |
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You must discard a Technique. If you cannot, you cannot use the effect. The only time effects are optional is if the word "May" appears in the text (meaning you don't have to use it). Pg. 39 of the Exile Rulebook details this. https://web.archive.org/web/20080215093213/...ebook_36_48.pdf |
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| Cynic_Focus | Jun 23 2015, 04:16 PM Post #7 |
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I'm aware of that. But since it's an item the effects are activated once you choose to discard the item. It says you have to discard a technique but if there are none in the arena or sidelines I do not think the absence of the technique can stop you from discarding the item card. I do not think it nullifies the effect after "and" which is gaining spirit. I'd would guess since there are no techniques on the field you'd automatically go to the secondary effect. |
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| Karmic | Jun 23 2015, 04:59 PM Post #8 |
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The activation effect of the card is to discard a technique, doing so grants you the 3 spirit energy, the effects are linked together, otherwise it would be worded as "You may discard this card to discard a technique in play, you may also discard this card to grant you 3 spirit energy" It's not a secondary effect, it's a single effect that grants you two benefits. |
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| inviso | Jun 23 2015, 05:07 PM Post #9 |
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^ Karmic hit it spot on. Discarding the tech grants you the other effect, which is gaining 3 SE. |
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| Karmic | Jun 23 2015, 05:35 PM Post #10 |
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I know ruling questions don't come up very often, but would it be possible to get the symbol for Spirit Energy as an emote on the forums? |
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| inviso | Jun 23 2015, 05:50 PM Post #11 |
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I'll try to get to it this weekend. I'll be inactive (or less active) from June 30th to July 19th, so I'll try to get to it before the 30th. |
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