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Various Rules Questions
Topic Started: May 4 2018, 08:07 AM (193 Views)
Youskee
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Hello everyone new to the forums, Ive been playing yu yu hakusho with my friends and we have some various rules questions that we have solved ourselves but we want to know the real answers

1. IF Stern Teachings Cant Shuffle Effect is in place, can you play an Intensive training from your discard pile? And what happens if you do, does it just not shuffle back? Can you activate it multiple times from the discard pile if it doesn't shuffle back ?

2. Are Main: Do X Abilities A Must? For example Must I Use Demon energy scanner on my turn or can I decide not too do that

3. Yusuke champion of the peoples signature moves ability says "Once per turn" Does this mean I can use it on my opponents turn? If so I can use "Halt!". I assume you can use cards that specify when opponent does X use this in response, But That also begs the question can I use other event cards even if they don't play something that you can interact with

4. How many times per turn can I use juri's "you may use events on your opponents turn" And Do the events I play have to be in response to opponents cards or phases.

I think I might have some other things to ask but I can't remember
Thanks a lot !
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Youskee
May 4 2018, 08:07 AM
Hello everyone new to the forums, Ive been playing yu yu hakusho with my friends and we have some various rules questions that we have solved ourselves but we want to know the real answers

1. IF Stern Teachings Cant Shuffle Effect is in place, can you play an Intensive training from your discard pile? And what happens if you do, does it just not shuffle back? Can you activate it multiple times from the discard pile if it doesn't shuffle back ?

2. Are Main: Do X Abilities A Must? For example Must I Use Demon energy scanner on my turn or can I decide not too do that

3. Yusuke champion of the peoples signature moves ability says "Once per turn" Does this mean I can use it on my opponents turn? If so I can use "Halt!". I assume you can use cards that specify when opponent does X use this in response, But That also begs the question can I use other event cards even if they don't play something that you can interact with

4. How many times per turn can I use juri's "you may use events on your opponents turn" And Do the events I play have to be in response to opponents cards or phases.

I think I might have some other things to ask but I can't remember
Thanks a lot !
Welcome to the forums! :)

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Stern Teachings
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Put both players' Discard Piles face-down in the Winner's Circle.
If your opponent has the Yomi Team Bonus, cards in your Discard Pile cannot be targeted by your opponent's effects, including Team Bonuses, for the rest of the match.
Limit once per match.

Your opponent's cards cannot target your Discard Pile, but yours can. As such, yes, you can play Intensive Training and yes, you will shuffle it back in. However, I don't think you can even target Intensive Discipline because your Discard Pile is face-down. I can't recall. **Edit** Actually, re-reading the card, you -should- be able to target your own cards, even if face-down.


2.
Yes, they are a must unless the card says "You may" in front of it. As such, yes, you must use DES on your turn.

3.
You cannot use abilities on your opponent's turn unless the card states you can. Same with events unless there's card text to support a "response" when your opponent triggers the conditions for the response to be viable (like Halt!).

4.
You may use Juri's effect multiple times per turn. There's one catch though, the card can only be played in response to your opponent's cards. You cannot use Juri's effect before your opponent's cards. They have to play a card, then you can respond by playing a card.

The only exception is if your opponent doesn't play any events. When they announce they are moving to the Battle Phase, you can use, if memory serves me correctly, a single event card before they move into their Battle Phase. I might be remembering the ruling wrong for this. It should be in the CRD or ARD in the Database somewhere.
Edited by inviso, May 4 2018, 02:05 PM.
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Youskee
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Thanks a lot for your response ! Shoot I named the wrong card in my first question, What I meant to really ask what if a card says your opponent cant shuffle cards back into their deck can you use intensive training from your discard pile. Im drawing a blank on the card name that says your opponent cant shuffle cards back into their deck i thought it was stern teachings lol.
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Youskee
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And let me confirm, so your saying you Cannot use yusukes signature moves effect to grab a halt from your discard pile against an opponents event on their turn ?

and Im still looking for an answer to this question sorry If I messed up the first time

if my opponent used Reality Shift against me, Can I Use intensive training from My discard pile while under the "cannot shuffle cards from your discard pile back into your deck floating effect". What exactly happens here?
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Youskee
May 6 2018, 02:23 AM
And let me confirm, so your saying you Cannot use yusukes signature moves effect to grab a halt from your discard pile against an opponents event on their turn ?

and Im still looking for an answer to this question sorry If I messed up the first time

if my opponent used Reality Shift against me, Can I Use intensive training from My discard pile while under the "cannot shuffle cards from your discard pile back into your deck floating effect". What exactly happens here?
Correct, you can't use Yusuke, Champion of the People on your opponent's turn to get, and activate a Halt!

And Reality Shift will prevent the effects of anything that allows you to get cards from your discard pile back into your deck, unless you play a card to end all floating effects.
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So I couldnt activate my Intensive training from discard pile when they used reality shift then. it would have no effect?
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I would say that you wouldn't be able to activate it, because the activation effect, and shuffling into the deck go hand and hand. If you were able to activate it, you'd be able to play it an unlimited amount of times.
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welcome to the forums?? Where are you guys playing it ? Me and Botan the philosopher are playing near LA area to Southern California !
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Youskee
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We are playing in new york sadly >< Looking for more people to play with but its hard to find anyone
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What format / decks are you playing??
Me and Botan are surprised there’s other people in the world playing
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Youskee
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We are playing the full game up to alliance format. But the game needed a huge change because of all the super powerful cards, so we made quite a ban list which ended up making our decks more controlling and allowed for longer and more fun games instead of killing the characters in 1 attack

We have been playing for a couple of years, and used to play when we were a lot younger so we have a good grasp on the game and what it's capable of. Along with Nearly every card in the game in big multiples

No double attack cards
No extra turn cards
No Power strike of other cards of the like
No Hope Lost
No counter parts
No Regression
No Upsurge
No Overwhelming Kill
No Darkness Within
No ultimate sacrifice
No Code
No grim determination
No malevolent influence
No reckless charge
No Unity
No villionare wages
No wicked influence
No the dark one ( we have a few of these lol )
No i got something for you
No kenko the cute healer
Hiei, villian demon's effect can only be used once per turn
Juri's effect can only be used once per turn
Along with the original ban list
We also have cards that we limited to one per deck
Death of a hero, limit 1 per deck
Kazuyas malevolent glare, limit 1 per deck
mischief, limit 1 per deck
Along with the other limited cards

This ban list is pretty big but it really allowed for us to build unique but not overpowered decks. Things like gateway combo are still allowed but neither of us play that because even with the huge ban list i can still build a 1 turn win with gateway. We dont play Shizuru, Gifted Seer because with her, good reff and fighter in training you can have like 20 minute turns of just cycling through your deck and fixing your hand, and while you dont get an extreme amount of card advantage from her you set up the perfect hand to win. Plus it takes too long, look at why they banned sensei's divining top in MTG Legacy XD
Also we dont really play mill decks, but sometimes if we do we tweak our deck in a way to have some recoup cards and etc.

I'd love to play though if we could find a way, maybe skype or something like that. Its hard to find other people but we enjoy playing when we have time. I'll post me and my friends decklist later in the other part of the forums.
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tradecardsonline.com is an option to play other people. Though you have to be online at the same time to play so scheduling a specific time helps. You can upload your decks there. I'd myself be up for a game sometime on that site if anyone reading this wants to. I haven't played in a long time though so I'm really rusty.
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singledad
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Awesome ban list!! , I have alliance decks !!
Also the Suzaka lightning master card is insane as hell too
We should definitely play on skype and discord sometime !
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Youskee
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Do you play with any sort of ban list? And yeah whats your discord and or skype add. I have both. lol
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Yeah I play with the regular ban list but I can adjust my decks
Add me on discord if anyone wants singledad#1072 or instagram is bonechamp
Message me and let’s Battle!
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Youskee
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added !
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KoenmasAssassin
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I have a question, I've been playing for 5 years and I've never thought to ask. When making a deck can you mix the sets? Like use both Dark tournament and Exile in one deck, or are you supposed to just use one?
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