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Welcome Monsignor!; 13th Place - 1st Juror
Topic Started: Feb 3 2014, 12:36 AM (537 Views)
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I did not vote Arden back into the game. Voting someone back in who had been clearly above me on the Asylum pecking order felt foolish. Looking back perhaps I should have, since at least that was an established connection I could rely on. :shrug He WAS legitimately robbed though. That was no bullshit. Unfortunate unexepcted circumstances ended his game and by pecking order alone he would never have gone that early.

It is good to know at least that Shachath that you did care for me somewhat premerge back when I was stable, and to have the who was the sixth between me and Mary Eunice thing confirmed. I always assumed it was me for everyone except perhaps Jude, but I wasn't sure since the tribe did a very good sell job of pretending that Eunice was just a replacement for Grace. :lol:

The Arden voting council IS a good read, I agree. I'll never know until post game how serious Eunice was about getting close to me in the final rounds, but that voting council was part of the catalyst that formed that. We suspected highly that the tears would likely not have flowed QUITE as much had it been one of us in Arden's spot. I actually suspect Eunice was legitimate with me, but she would never have considered overthrowing the majority as we had planned had the last Colosseum round not been an obvious precursor to a switch perhaps? Ie that she was close with me, but would have kept me from overthrowing the majority. The plan that we "sold" to Lana of attempting to isolate and eliminate Pepper by choosing to vote with Lana was something that I was legitimately considering going forward with rather than just a lie to Lana, I suspect Shachath that you got wind of that and thats why you voted that night? I love Eunice everso. And miss her. She never showed me her devil side. :o

Poor Oliver and his complete ignorance to his status within the tribe. :cry I felt for him more than Lana, though both grew on me in their own ways as time went by.
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Sister Jude,Feb 10 2014
06:05:03 PM
How insulting ta even suggest Lana was a "good" Lana, angel of death. She was terrible from start ta finish. Constance dear, do not listen ta a word of that.

Timothy, I have no idea what happened on Sloth and I am not even gonna pretend ta know. I only heard what everyone told me and ya and I neva got ta talk about that. But just so ya know, ya were always very high on my list in this game. Ya were not on tha bottom of anything. As soon as sista Eunice threw out ya name, I shut her down and told her no. I informed ya of that so ta hear ya were workin' close ta her is very odd. Ya know docta Arden and I had absolute loyalty to ya. I know ya and tha angel of death were neva close. For whateva reason, tha two of ya neva got along until I told ya both too.

I was a mess on Sloth Jude. I'd rather pretend my game ended back on the Asylum quite frankly. I'm glad to hear our closeness was legitimate. I was never quite sure, I knew at least that you valued me more than Pepper, Shachath, or Arden did. But being that I was being so clearly dragged along by our alliance I didn't know how deeply I could trust you. I also don't feel I EARNED that loyalty, outside of in character connections, since I was so truly atrocious socially. But I appreciate it Jude. Indeed I wish I had put more faith in you than I did.

I worked with Eunice becuase I knew at BEST that only you felt that way about my position in the alliance. It was a fire forged bond. :shrug Especially with Arden gone Pepper and Shachath never cared about me more than a tag along I'm quite sure. Maye I was wrong about Pepper, but her and the Angel's closeness fills me with doubt of that. I would not have allowed you to be the victim of any move that me and Eunice made had we gone ahead with something of course.
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Cease talking faster than I can catch up.

Damn it seems I misread my relationship with you too Shachath. I was doubtful of ALL of the Asylum majority, no matter how much you preached loyalty. Our opening up moment was quite lovely Shachath, but I couldn't be sure. It was Pepper I mistrusted the most by the end though. That is true.

Me and Mary Eunice's relationship is a mystery even me to Shachath, if it makes you feel better.
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Ya completely misread tha dynamics than, Timothy. How unfortunate for ya. Ya own paranoia got tha damn best of ya. Ya were NOT fifth ta me and I even informed ya of that. Ta hear ya were considering doin' somethin' so reckless is disconcerting because if anyone had ya back ta tha very end, it was I. I told ya docta Arden and I would have fought for ya and that was true.

I suspect many people lied about that return vote. It wasn't just ya.
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For once in a game I was MORE paranoid than I needed to be. Usually it is me in Thresdon's spot. I don't know how I could have known that either of you two held me in as high estimation preswitch as you did though. I sucked. Apparently not as badly as I thought, but I DID.
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Personally, I thought I was the replacement for Grace. Because early on, Pepper came to me about an alliance of the groups. It was basically Grace and Arthur, her and I and you and Jude. And I didn't like that alliance. Lana and Mary Eunice not being in an alliance on Asylum was ridiculous to me. And I had not had a good relationship with Jude or Arthur at that point, so I thought Pepper was forcing me into something and I told her that was not the make-up of an alliance I'd even be interested in. And then she told me it was just something she came up with and not a real deal. But then apparently it was?

I was closest to Mary Eunice and Pepper. We had a core within that alliance. And if she wasn't immune the night that Dr. Arden left, I hate to say it, but I would have voted out Jude. Especially since Pepper told me that whatever we wanted to do in the Witch's Councils was up to me. She said she would always follow my lead, which is why I almost always voted first. So if it was between Mary Eunice and Jude, that would have been tough. With Arthur it was more of a no-brainer, since he was laggy on communications for a while. And right before that round, I made that pact with Jude and Pepper about not voting each other.

The last night on the Asylum, I did get spooked out and played for a vote. Although I didn't know it was Pepper you were trying to take out. I assumed it was Jude, since Lana wanted her out really bad. And I thought that might have been a setup. Since people actually told you that only one of us was voting and I didn't think you should have had that information, Timothy. I didn't think anyone outside of our 5 should have known that. And another thing that sort of spooked me as well, was that Mary Eunice sent me this urgent missive about how she had no idea what we were doing for the night. So I sent her something and told her the plan. Then I told Jude I had to tell Mary Eunice the plan, since she did not know. And Jude was like "She's known the plan all day" or something to that effect. And that's why I voted instead of played for immunity. Just in case.
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So if it truly was myself, Pepper and Satan on one side and Jude, Monsignor and Dr. Arden on one side.

Why did you guys let Pepper and I have the voting majority in those rooms?
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Timothy, it had nothin' ta do with character connections. Ya were strong in tha challenges and when ya did show up, ya were amazin'. It was always docta Arden, ya and I to me. I wanted ta keep Thredson in over Lana which is why I went ta both ya and docta Arden to discuss it. But both of ya were convinced keeping Thredson in was a threat to ya both in tha competitions, which is why I made that call.

I realize I was tha only one who cared for docta Thredson on that team, but I did. He and I had very good talks and I wanted him in that fold but not at tha expense of ya and Arden.
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I was closest to Mary Eunice and Pepper. We had a core within that alliance.


This is clearly not about that secret group alliance Pepper proposed day 2, but the true alliance of 6 on Asylum.
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Shachath,Feb 10 2014
06:31:57 PM
So if it truly was myself, Pepper and Satan on one side and Jude, Monsignor and Dr. Arden on one side.

Why did you guys let Pepper and I have the voting majority in those rooms?

I don't think it was that simple. I figured we could just get away with Lana and Thredson bein' out and than we could go inta tha next phase six strong. I don't think we had any plans beyond that. I always took things one night at a time.
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Sista Eunice was tha one who informed me of tha alliance between ya, Pepper, Lana and her. I confronted both of ya about that if ya rememba and I knew ya two were plannin' on hidin' it by tha way ya both responded. Sista Eunice obviously made a mistake doin' that, but her loyalty at tha time was appreciated. She was rewarded.
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I know she told you about that alliance, I'm the one who actually put that together, because Lana wanted security. But I actually told you about that alliance too, so? I wasn't planning on hiding it, or going with it. I was ready to vote Lana out whenever we needed to do it. However, I did try to just go the easy route and take out Oliver so you and Mary Eunice wouldn't go to a real war. But then I caved and took your side, because I wanted to. I didn't like how Mary Eunice wouldn't even back down. And I didn't want to make waves on that tribe. Plus, I hated Oliver. He was a delusional freak.
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Ya only told me about it after Peppa alerted ya that I knew. When sista Eunice came ta me with tha information, I confronted Peppa and she played it off as doin' it for show. You then sent me a PM later about it and I assume it's because Peppa told ya I knew. I never doubted ya loyalty ta me, but that is how that happened.

As far as goin' ta war with Sista Eunice, it would have happened if it came ta it because I was not willin' ta let Timothy go. I know ya all struggled with his attention ta Briarcliff, but I trusted him implicitly. It's unfortunate ta hear they were both plottin' tagether when she was tha one who lit the match, but as he will admit now, he was paranoid beyond his imagination.
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Holy shit this really picked. I need some popcorn for this read.
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All of this is fascinating. Asylum dynamics were so much more complicated than I thought, yet actually based on this I think every single PM I received from any of you contained nothing but the truth preswitch. All of this matches what you all told me during the preswitch. I assumed Shachath was full of Satan when she claimed that she thought she was the "replacement" for Grace. :cross2

For the plan to work we needed Pepper to be "isolated". Her vote null would have made it impossible otherwise. When we heard that you two were going for immunity and only Pepper would be voting it seemed the perfect opportunity if we wanted to do it. But it was a heavensend me and Eunice chose to trick Lana rather than actually go for the reckless move with how you ended up getting spooked, because we'd have had to either quite awkwardly throw Lana under the bus and make some excuse for voting or allowed it to go to a tie between Pepper and Lana that Lana would obviously lose. So good protective move, even though in the moment it didn't amount to much it very much could have. I was leaving the decision to go for it or hold our horses up to Eunice.

Jude I always WANTED it to be you, me, and Arden. Perhaps I should have been more open with you about my concerns and that bond could have been closed a bit more thoroughly and my doubts lessened. But I did always suspect that that was my closest bond within the Asylum majority, and when Arden left that was the final straw to me going a bit rogue and getting close with Eunice. Had he stayed I may never have gotten that nervous, maybe. But then again Lana leaving before Arden would have left it down to just a six and that would have been a totally different scenario. :shrug

Clearly I just need to have more confidence as a player or something and keep calm. Every element of paranoia or recklessness did me way more harm than good in this game. It always does, but then something happens in an ORG to prove my parnaoia right and I feel like I need to be ahead of the curve next time. :cross2
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