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Ideas for the fed!; Please respond ^_^
Topic Started: Aug 24 2012, 11:44 AM (602 Views)
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Fuck dat... wayyy too confusing XD I don't have the patience
Exactly, so a fun, exciting, enthralling, AWESOME, ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC ... Tournament ... is the way to go. :P
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Still triple cage match. First ring/ age starts out 3-3 tag format four people can make to the second cage where it's every man for himself. at the top of the last cage (technically it's a fourth level but w/e) is the prize, only one man get it.
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We should do a few things to make ACW a touch more realistic. Here are some ideas I thought of.

1. Move out. We need to have shows in more than just the east side of the US. I know it's original, but in the end all it does is (in-character) turn us into an unrealistic fed. We say (IC) that we're supposed to be this new big fed, yet if that were the case, we'd be having shows all over. A PPV here and there outside of the East US doesn't cut it.

2. Stat System. All professional wrestlers have statistics. Power, speed, charisma, etc. Why not add to our bios on the main site a stat system? This can help with match writing to show if a character is best with speed, power, etc. How they balance out can change a match entirely. I think it would be a great, and interesting, edition.

3. Money System. This is something that few feds ever do, and that I know we could pull off. Basically for certain factors during shows in matches and segments, a wrestler (really the handler) is awarded a monetary amount for every show. They are then able to spend that amount to improve their characters with sponsorships, stat improvements (goes with number 2), special banners, etc.

4. Points System. Basically, for each win by pinfall, a handler wins 2 points. For each submission, it's 3 points. For a loss by pinfall, they lose 1 point. Loss by submission they lose 2 points. DQ and countout wins/losses equal the same as submissions. Once a certain amount of points are accumulated, the handler can cash them in for a title shot, a match of their complete choice, etc. This will get people to put more into their roleplays so that they can have a better chance at earning points to get these prizes. It'll help boost the talent and help everyone grow in their rping ability.

5. Make title matches ppv exclusive except for rematches and special circumstances. Championship matches are meant to be something special, and should as such not be done at a simple weekly event. They should be saved for pay-per-views. A rematch from a ppv is different, obviously, but for normal title matches, they should be ppv exclusive. I mean, think about it. You're not going to have a final exam on just any day of school. It'll be on the last day. Title matches are too big and important to feature at normal, everyday shows.

6. Dark Matches. Before EVERY event (this means weekly shows and ppvs) have at least one dark match. This would be a match that takes place before the actual event begins, and would be between two superstars of a lower caliber who don't really have a reason for a big match to happen.
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6. Dark Matches... would be for superstars of a lower caliber who don't really have a reason for a big match to happen.
In other words, he is volunteering to be ACW's PERMANENT dark match superstar.

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6. Dark Matches... would be for superstars of a lower caliber who don't really have a reason for a big match to happen.
In other words, he is volunteering to be ACW's PERMANENT dark match superstar.
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Stats why would we need them most of us already describe our styles

Why would we need money? Capitalism is evil and it makes no sense. What the money before than piling up on requests an fake cash

And this is the second time youre pushing the moving out of regional thing… well third. Stop, please

Points would only work in a tourny and it should just be points for win/lose
Rarely is there's DQ or non submission niggaaking people tap, and though I'd like to see more of both, points would be too confusing with each roster carrier, also it would likely stroke some egos. And Frankies already too overworked to add points for every wrestler every match.

There is no difference from PPV and weekly shows, altho realistic would kinda lose some luster and sometimes PPVs are fine with few title matches. I just think the Ultimate title should be mostly PPV if that.

Why dark matches? They should only be for rookies and kinda screws guys who arent new but still haven't fully established themselves



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We should do a few things to make ACW a touch more realistic. Here are some ideas I thought of.

1. Move out. We need to have shows in more than just the east side of the US. I know it's original, but in the end all it does is (in-character) turn us into an unrealistic fed. We say (IC) that we're supposed to be this new big fed, yet if that were the case, we'd be having shows all over. A PPV here and there outside of the East US doesn't cut it.

2. Stat System. All professional wrestlers have statistics. Power, speed, charisma, etc. Why not add to our bios on the main site a stat system? This can help with match writing to show if a character is best with speed, power, etc. How they balance out can change a match entirely. I think it would be a great, and interesting, edition.

3. Money System. This is something that few feds ever do, and that I know we could pull off. Basically for certain factors during shows in matches and segments, a wrestler (really the handler) is awarded a monetary amount for every show. They are then able to spend that amount to improve their characters with sponsorships, stat improvements (goes with number 2), special banners, etc.

4. Points System. Basically, for each win by pinfall, a handler wins 2 points. For each submission, it's 3 points. For a loss by pinfall, they lose 1 point. Loss by submission they lose 2 points. DQ and countout wins/losses equal the same as submissions. Once a certain amount of points are accumulated, the handler can cash them in for a title shot, a match of their complete choice, etc. This will get people to put more into their roleplays so that they can have a better chance at earning points to get these prizes. It'll help boost the talent and help everyone grow in their rping ability.

5. Make title matches ppv exclusive except for rematches and special circumstances. Championship matches are meant to be something special, and should as such not be done at a simple weekly event. They should be saved for pay-per-views. A rematch from a ppv is different, obviously, but for normal title matches, they should be ppv exclusive. I mean, think about it. You're not going to have a final exam on just any day of school. It'll be on the last day. Title matches are too big and important to feature at normal, everyday shows.

6. Dark Matches. Before EVERY event (this means weekly shows and ppvs) have at least one dark match. This would be a match that takes place before the actual event begins, and would be between two superstars of a lower caliber who don't really have a reason for a big match to happen.
As I said in the chat, I like the BFG style tournament Kenny suggested, but the points system for it would have to be established as well as finding people willing to participate in such a thing. I've also stated that I think this would be a great idea for Chasing The Dream...next year.

Anyway, Kenny kinda said some of the things I was going to say on what Thomas said, but I'm going to try and address each and every one of his points anyhow.

Point 1 - We ARE moving out...slowly. We had like 3 of our first 4 events in Manhattan if I remember right (plus Rise Above was there as well). We've slowly began moving away from there and traveling first to nearby areas like Boston, Baltimore, Philadelphia, etc. Will we still have events back in Manhattan? Sure. That is like our home base after all. We are a primarily East Coast based federation right now. But we're trying to go to new places, to give everyone new experiences and new things to RP about. Keep in mind that WWE didn't start off as a global entity. It stated off as a mere territory and grew to be a global entity. Growing takes time. That being said, from what has been discussed, the next several Initiative events will be taking us further south than we have been previously and to the southeastern US (Georgia, North and South Carolina, etc.). Also, I've believe it's been discussed that there may be a future PPV in the UK but there's no certainty yet on if/when that would occur.

Points 2, 3, and 4 - I'm addressing all of these together. While I agree that these are all decent ideas that I've seen employed elsewhere, I do not see us employing any of them at least in the forseeable future. Why? Systems like these are difficult to implement and equally if not even more difficult to keep track of. There are other difficulties associated with each of those systems, but that's kind of the bottom line. Not to mention the immense amount of time involved in such things that could be better spent on RPs, segments, and/or match writing. Those are the reasons why even some of the systems you've seen in other feds (Like my rankings in New Edge and UPW) were abandoned here to begin with. I feel doing segs, match writing, putting the results all together and posting them, and keeping the forums/main site updated is more important for the survival of the fed as a whole than these additional systems which would only serve to take time away from those things.

Point 5 - I agree with this and I don't. While having title matches only on PPVs does make those events more special, it can also deprive deserving individuals of potential title opportunities. Besides, what motivation does a champion have to do anything if they know their title isn't going to be on the line for like...6 weeks or whatever? I mean, I will admit it's probably felt like there's been a lot of title matches on the cards lately, but really we're trying to spread them out a little and not scheduling multiple title matches on the same card. When you think about it since Rise Above when the Ultimate, International, and Warfare Titles were all defended we've only had 1 International Title match and 1 Warfare Title match while trying to build towards the big Tag Title match at the PPV. Again, and I hate to keep using WWE as an example, even they have like the IC and US Titles defended on TV sometimes...even the World Title. Some of the best moments in their history have happened when they've had such matches. The other issue is that we are also trying to avoid having the champion defend two straight weeks or in the case of the challenger that wins to become champion them having to defend it the very next week. Doing this prevents 7 day or less title reigns, thus giving the titles more prestige by not constantly changing hands.

Point 6 - We've done dark matches. The only reason to my knowledge that we haven't been doing dark matches as of late is because everyone currently on the roster is not someone that has newly joined the fed. They're joined and they've gotten themselves established here. If 1-2 new people were to sign up right now, they would most likely be pitted against each other either in a dark match or in the opening match on the next card to prove themselves to us that they're going to establish themselves and stay around. As for those already established, I don't feel it's fair to any of them that put in time and effort to RP to be put into an unwritten dark match.
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Match Idea: Pier 6 Brawl

In one of the feds I was a part of for nearly 10 years we did a specialty match that was always fun to read and participate in (but a bitch to write). It was tried out once and it became an annual event thereafter.

The Pier Six Brawl is essentially a Royal Rumble on crack. Almost the entire roster participated in the match except the World Champion. Like the Royal Rumble, two competitors of the Pier Six Brawl start out the match. After two minutes, another person enters, and the trend continues until all participants are in. The difference between the RR and P6B is that the ring is surrounded by barbed wired. The participants enter via a ramp into the ring. Once all participants are in, the ramp is removed. Like the RR, it is over the top rope battle royal rules. Once there are two combatants left, a Hell in a Cell lowers, encasing both combatants, and the sea of barbed wire. The winner of the match is the one who can escape the cage through the door which is on the other side of the sea of barbed wire.

The winner of the P6B got a guaranteed title shot of their choice at the biggest event's main event.

My other idea was a Money in the Bank idea.

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Match Idea: Pier 6 Brawl

In one of the feds I was a part of for nearly 10 years we did a specialty match that was always fun to read and participate in (but a bitch to write). It was tried out once and it became an annual event thereafter.

The Pier Six Brawl is essentially a Royal Rumble on crack. Almost the entire roster participated in the match except the World Champion. Like the Royal Rumble, two competitors of the Pier Six Brawl start out the match. After two minutes, another person enters, and the trend continues until all participants are in. The difference between the RR and P6B is that the ring is surrounded by barbed wired. The participants enter via a ramp into the ring. Once all participants are in, the ramp is removed. Like the RR, it is over the top rope battle royal rules. Once there are two combatants left, a Hell in a Cell lowers, encasing both combatants, and the sea of barbed wire. The winner of the match is the one who can escape the cage through the door which is on the other side of the sea of barbed wire.

The winner of the P6B got a guaranteed title shot of their choice at the biggest event's main event.

My other idea was a Money in the Bank idea.
That first one could be done, but it'll take quite a bit of time to write and give the combatants enough time to showcase their talents, which can be hard to do.

As for MITB?

In my opinion, no. Just no.

The reason? It's a cheap way of winning a title. Now sure some people can say this works for heels and their characters, but for me it makes things look bad.

Don't get me wrong, when WWE first implemented this back in 2005, it was a fresh concept, and no one could have pulled off how unpredictable title changes could be like its first holder, Edge. It added shock value, and for him as a heel, it worked, being the ultimate opportunist and all.

Flash forward to now. What is it? Nothing special. They've used it so many times now that it's just gotten stale ... to me anyway. If they could have timed these MITB wins to occur after a couple of years - or better, stick with ONE briefcase - then I suppose it could be saved...? I don't know. It worked at first, but now it's gotten old.

One of the first things we agreed upon actually when creating ACW was that there would be, under no circumstances, a MITB type award, because it is cheap.

Just my opinion. You might not agree with it, but eh, that's just me.
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What about a mitb that just wasnt whenever a nigga wanted to
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Alright King of the Extreme. A ring made 20 feet in the air completely from chain link fencing no mat four corners and of course ring ropes. There is a top, no sides, and they're filled with weapons last man standing style

Also, V goes mad with power and joins the rockstar rebels with the court and rules Acw with an iron fist and finally end all the stables for good. For ever. For good. Never again
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No to the second :P

But... I've always liked the idea of having a ring/platform in the air for competitors to perform on. It's like the epitome of extreme. How to implement it in a realistic way is the tricky part. Making it out of chains wouldn't work very well, but maybe some form of metal or hard wood... with weapons hanging from the ceiling in arms length perhaps? Idk... xD

(I'll give my thoughts on the other ideas probably tomorrow sometime..)

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I didn't say chains I said chain ling a few layers a fencing and you have a sturdy, bouny painful as fuk ring
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I'd like to share my idea for an elevated Match of sorts, if I may.

How about making it a standard ring that has been reinforced to handle extra weight, but you attach cables to the ring ropes with hooks, like they do when holding up a steel cage or a HIAC for later in the evening. You then raise up the ring using these cables to get it to a decent height, and where the ring used to be on the floor, you plant down a web of chains and barbed wire that extend further than the ring's actual size.

There are two ways of utilizing this concept. One, having it be a Match where you need to throw your opponent over the ropes to the web of chain and barbed wire below to win ... or, the second, is to have a Battle Royal in the air. Each participant enters the ring with a weapon, they stay in the ring as it is raised up to a good height, the chain web is placed down that is secure enough to handle and cushion someone's fall, and then the Battle Royal begins.

There is one TINY little problem with this concept.

It'll never be implemented, because it won't work. haha

Then again, I'm pretty sure I saw a CZW Match back in the day where they raised the ring up and they laid down some kind of thing that can cushion their fall, but it might not be as I remembered it.
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More ways of victory. Dqs submissions count outs, tight holding, using the rope for leverage, shady refs, hidden objects, run ins, and more weapons.

Also out someone through the announcement table goddamit
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