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| NigelCollins24 | Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 am Post #87001 |
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:28 am Post #87002 |
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The true warrior should take the battle like a man no retreat, no surrender.
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| NigelCollins24 | Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:32 am Post #87003 |
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:33 am Post #87004 |
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The true warrior should take the battle like a man no retreat, no surrender.
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Oh yea |
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| Zhou Yin | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:29 am Post #87005 |
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There are still interesting games out on console. I mean, to each, their own, I believe, but to be honest, I suck at computer games. And yea, back in the day, games were better. There are WAY too many shooters out on the market. I've been looking for a game on consoles that play like the old PS2 era Nobunaga's Ambition, and Empires is about as close as I've been able to come. Iron Triangle was one of the most complete strategy games that I've ever played, whether on console or pc. One hell of a learning curve, but the ever-increasing satisfaction from slowly but surely taking over China, eliminating daimyo after daimyo was one unmatched and ever so intoxicating... Haven't played a game that made me feel like that in YEARS. It's probably why my excitement over games has waned to the point where I actually blink at spending 60 bucks on anything... not warriors related... lol. Edited by Zhou Yin, Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:34 am.
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:15 am Post #87006 |
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I've never played it, but it's about taking over China?
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| Zhou Yin | Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:17 am Post #87007 |
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Oh. Wow. Japan. Sorry. Got my Asian countries mixed up...
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:23 am Post #87008 |
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That makes more sense. ![]() ROTK would be the version for China ![]() Great games, and from what I've heard basically just the same as Nobunaga's Ambition in general terms.
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| Zhou Yin | Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:38 am Post #87009 |
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Yea, but ROTK isn't on consoles, and I think the last couple aren't even in the US... so... |
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:46 am Post #87010 |
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Erm....yes they are. For the Consoles bit at least. ROTKVIII was the last released in the UK I believe, think at least up til X in the US, but man did I love playing that on the PS2, still go back to it every now and again ![]() The original bunch of them were even on the NES and SNES, which I found out while getting emulator games. Edited by Sanada, Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:47 am.
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| Zhou Yin | Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:09 am Post #87011 |
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Yea, I wikipediad. Never had the chance to play the ROTK series, unfortunately. Always was on DW. I became interested in the series only after I'd happened upon one gamestop that still sold a few Nobunaga's Ambitions, around mid-late 2009. Picked up Iron Triangle, liked what I saw, wanted to go through ROTK, but then my PS2 crapped out and I got a PS3... Meh. I know of the Japanese versions, but I don't understand the language, so there's that. Empires is an alternative, but it is nothing compared to Iron Triangle. I didn't know what a siege was until I played that game. Remembered this one time, when I captured basically the whole eastern mainland, all the way up until the south-eastern most port. Took me 2 seasons and close to a million soldiers to take that port... Resilient bastard... Empires, it's fun, but it doesn't offer the scope. I loved manaing my men, alliances actually meant something, and the fact that the other daimyo actually fought while you were in the middle of your business... yea... I miss that game. They have Rise To Power on PSN. Might get around to checking that out. I heard it's very different... but I guess it'll have to pass. Don't believe Iron Triangle will be coming any time soon... |
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:08 am Post #87012 |
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The true warrior should take the battle like a man no retreat, no surrender.
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:07 pm Post #87013 |
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That's actually part of why I can never get into Empires games. SW2:E I did, but the DW Empires, I enjoy them at first but get bored quite quickly. Never did get 6 Empires though, and of course not yet got 7 Empires. But basically to me they are worse versions of ROTK, having never played Nobunaga's Ambition SW2:E was fine though ![]() Although I do still prefer Shogun Total War to that end. That one is a PC game, and was my first game of the style try and capture other peoples land and expand ![]() That must have been like 11-12 years ago now... Total War games are a completly different experience to ROTK though
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:08 pm Post #87014 |
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The true warrior should take the battle like a man no retreat, no surrender.
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And last |
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:10 pm Post #87015 |
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Nope. |
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:14 pm Post #87016 |
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The true warrior should take the battle like a man no retreat, no surrender.
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:45 pm Post #87017 |
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| Zhou Yin | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:54 pm Post #87018 |
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lol, that's about the same with me. I LOVE dynasty Warriors, but it is just so... limited. I mean, on NA, family is actually recognized as such. You can marry people, you can marry off daughters for alliances, you can execute people, promote people, your place on the map of Japan actually matters strategically, you can interfere in a battle between two other clans, you can set an alliance, and then break it whenever you want. I mean, how many of those things can you do in Empires? I've always wanted to try a total war. I once saw Kessen on a trailer for... DW5, I think. Wanted to try it, but couldn't find it. Total War seemed like the only other alternative for that... But like I said... PC gaming scares me. I mean, the *minimum requirements* and what not. I remember back as a kid, trying to figure out what sort of sound card I had... If Total War is a game that I can just put in on a laptop made over the last 4 years with NOTHING on it... Then I'll pick it up. But reviews always ruin that for me, because they're like "Make sure your rig is up to date or it won't be as pretty/will run slower" blah blah blah. I thought fps was first person shooter... I just feel like I'm out of my league, haha |
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:55 pm Post #87019 |
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The true warrior should take the battle like a man no retreat, no surrender.
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:11 pm Post #87020 |
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I understand that, my laptop couldn't run Shogun 2: Total War when I got it >_< Still, my favourite Total War games are pretty old by this point and should run with no problems. These being the original Shogun Total War (Warlord Edition specifically, which came out 12 years ago) and Rome Total War (which came out 9 years ago) Both should run fine on that laptop. Shogun at the very least anyway, Rome SHOULD, but has a bit more to it. Unsure how easy it is to come by Shogun mind you, but Rome is easy enough to get. Also, NA sounds much more in depth than ROTKVIII >_< Sounds closer to the Total War games than I thought
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| Zhou Yin | Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:26 pm Post #87021 |
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If what I've heard is right, then yea. I believe Rise To Power is close to ROTK, but Iron Triangle was supposed to be a game changer. Less detail, but that was in order to pay for battles on a grander scale. You could literally be fighting two different wars on two different fronts at the same time. lol. When you get to the point where you control at least half the map, that isn't uncommon. You have a specific troop count to work with, and kind of like Empires, each of your officers have a max limit depending on what their level is. Unlike Empires, though, that number actually is noticeable. At first, you only get about a thousand for every officer, but when you actually build an army up... I've been able to amass units up to the hundred thousands, where you can have a million, even two million, men marching, all at once. Like I said, the detail isn't much. It's basically a column of pixels and sound with a number above it. Nothing to watch, but the game is such that honestly, half the time you won't be watching. There is nothing better than coordinating two sieges on two separate castles, in order to absorb the troops in those castles into your own army, and then use them them both to do a pincer attack on a third castle... Lol. There is like an action phase and a planning phase. Planning lets you pause the game and figure out moves, while action engages the RTS aspect of the game. L3 put a cursor on the map that you could use to highlight red blobs (which were troops) to see if there were any battles that you should be aware of... Like I said, Iron Triangle was amazing. I've read a lot about ROTK, but honestly, none of it seemed to be on that level. I prefer RTS to turn-based. It's mainly why I don't understand why people say that such games aren't as good on consoles. PS2 did that one wonderfully, without a mouse or keyboard. The pausing should be included in all games, lol. At least, I would prefer it. If one could have both planning and action phases, I don't see where else the difficulty would come from. Edited by Zhou Yin, Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:29 pm.
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:46 pm Post #87022 |
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I will take the last post while your talking to each others |
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:50 pm Post #87023 |
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Well, when people say RTS they don't actually mean that sort of game. That comes under the Gran Strategy genre or something like that. RTS tends to be stuff like Command and Conquer, Warcraft, Starcraft, where in the battle you build up your base and your troop count, no preplanning normally, just all in itself. I used to love that sort of RTS, but I've gone off them as I discovered the ones closer to what you're talking about. Elements of what you were saying are applicable to both ROTK and Total War though ![]() The troop limit in particular fits ROTK, in VIII you start with 8000 limit and could get up to 18500 or 20000, but that made a MASSIVE difference. One thing about Total War if you do try it is, it's at a much smaller scale within the battles themselves. A couple of thousand troops is a very large army, most units ranging from 10-100 depending on their type (elite units number less, and mounted less than footmen or such) You are expected to command the units personally when in the 'action phase' for it though. It's kind of a mix of turn based and real time, you have turn based overall progression, but within battles it's all real time and I love tactically playing those battles, having my infantry rush their line with archer support while I get my cavalry flanking round behind causing them to scatter~ |
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| Ultimate Dragon | Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:50 pm Post #87024 |
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The true warrior should take the battle like a man no retreat, no surrender.
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:51 pm Post #87025 |
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