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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Mon Jun 2, 2014 7:52 pm Post #108351 |
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Musashi is good as a duels, but Tadakatsu is good in both wars and duels, i have read that before Tadakatsu and Musashi face each others in The Battle of Sekigahara, they say Tadakatsu was old in that battle and it was his last battle, they have short duel together but noboday won because when they fought each others the battle ended and they stopped fighting. I don't really remember what i read but all i remember Tadakatsu was good and never tried to surrander in that duel. In history, Keiji wasn't even that great. I think in history Yukimura is stronger. |
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| Mr.Honda | Mon Jun 2, 2014 7:57 pm Post #108352 |
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Yea, I can't really speak on historical terms as I'm not as familiar with it. Never heard Musahsi and Tadakatsu facing each other at Sekigahara though. That's a new one Game-wise though, they all have similarities in one way or another. Splitting hairs to find who is "the Lu Bu" equivalent
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:04 pm Post #108353 |
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I found that in some google site here long ago, but i don't know if it's true or not, but someone says that he read it from a book. |
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| Mr.Honda | Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:11 pm Post #108354 |
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Historical Sengoku information is rare, especially in English. Most of what I've read has been from here and a few other general sites. I generally don't get into the history of it much because not speaking Japanese or at least understanding how to read it puts me at a disadvantage, and I generally don't trust the English translations available online. I picked up that mentality pretty early on here after something SRS posted. He's one of the small handful of people around here I can put confidence in when it comes to Japanese history. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:24 pm Post #108355 |
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I don't have books actually, i just read from some sites, and i rarely find something about the Sengoku Era. Well, let head back to the game. ![]() The answer why Tadakatsu doesn't get a new theme while Lu Bu get one is, Lu Bu is overrated so much while Tadakatsu not. It's the truth
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| Mr.Honda | Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:29 pm Post #108356 |
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Not sure which games Lu Bu's gotten a new mix lately ... Only really like the WO series version anyway
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| Ifrit | Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:29 pm Post #108357 |
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Tadakatsu is not overrated?
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| Sanada | Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:59 pm Post #108358 |
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Yeah, that's news to me.
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:10 pm Post #108359 |
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DW4 Theme was the best man. I don't see him overrated as much as Lu Bu. Lu Bu isn't only overrated in videogames, even in the history he is overrated. Such as Three bros VS Lu Bu i mean seriously? Even a monster can't do that if you think about it. Guan Yu was a great general some say he was the greatest warrior in China, and Zhang Fei also was a great general. How didn't both of them in the same time VS Lu Bu alone can't beat Lu Bu. It was a fictional novel actually but a lot of people think it is real. Edited by LegendaryDragonWarrior, Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:15 pm.
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| Ifrit | Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:22 pm Post #108360 |
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The only thing Tadakatsu has going for him is that he came multiple times unscathed out of battle. History never stated he was at the frontlines of most battles he fought, he could've been a commanding officer in nearly all of em. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:31 pm Post #108361 |
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I actually didn't see a lot of his history, but there was a battle Tokugawa VS Toyotomi, Tadakatsu was standing alone against The Toyotomi army, in that moment, the history says Hideyoshi didn't let his army kill or attack Tadakatsu because he proved his courage with that thing. Also Nobunaga said Tadakatsu is''The Samurai of Samurai'' ''among men Tadakatsu'' and Shingen also says ''he is a luxury of Tokugawa Ieyasu". |
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| Mr.Honda | Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:38 pm Post #108362 |
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I've often wondered about that myself ... but he also had his Komaki stand, as LDW mentioned. A lot of that stuff gets embellished as the legend grows, same can be said for just about everyone in that era
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:51 pm Post #108363 |
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I actually don't believe that myself Tadakatsu was never injured in the battle. ![]() Just like the thing before that Lu Bu VS The Three brothers. (when i searched about that it's just fictional) |
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| Mr.Honda | Mon Jun 2, 2014 10:22 pm Post #108364 |
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That last was entirely too long I'm sure he escaped major injury, but yea if he indeed fought on the front lines, no way he was completely unscathed. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Mon Jun 2, 2014 10:38 pm Post #108365 |
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Maybe it's just fictional thing. Tadakatsu's horse was known as Mikuniguro. ![]() Also i have read this site long ago about Tadakatsu using google translater. Spoiler: click to toggle
Edited by LegendaryDragonWarrior, Mon Jun 2, 2014 10:45 pm.
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| Mr.Honda | Mon Jun 2, 2014 11:43 pm Post #108366 |
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Perhaps, but like I said, it could be just fictionalized history. He could very well have escaped every battle without serious injury, whether he battled on the front lines or not. Hard to say either way what really happened in history since I believe most of those records were lost/destroyed a long time ago Meh, I'm so knowledgeably challenged in Sengoku history anyway Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Sanada | Mon Jun 2, 2014 11:45 pm Post #108367 |
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Oyamada, begin the attack! |
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| Mr.Honda | Mon Jun 2, 2014 11:48 pm Post #108368 |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Tue Jun 3, 2014 12:08 am Post #108369 |
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| Sanada | Tue Jun 3, 2014 2:22 am Post #108370 |
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Quite the force you assembled, rival
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Tue Jun 3, 2014 2:29 am Post #108371 |
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| Sanada | Tue Jun 3, 2014 2:47 am Post #108372 |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Tue Jun 3, 2014 3:00 am Post #108373 |
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| Sanada | Tue Jun 3, 2014 3:14 am Post #108374 |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Tue Jun 3, 2014 3:26 am Post #108375 |
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