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The Last Game
Topic Started: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:06 am (1,367,046 Views)
LegendaryDragonWarrior
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Musashi is good as a duels, but Tadakatsu is good in both wars and duels, i have read that before Tadakatsu and Musashi face each others in The Battle of Sekigahara, they say Tadakatsu was old in that battle and it was his last battle, they have short duel together but noboday won because when they fought each others the battle ended and they stopped fighting.
I don't really remember what i read but all i remember Tadakatsu was good and never tried to surrander in that duel.

In history, Keiji wasn't even that great. I think in history Yukimura is stronger.
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Yea, I can't really speak on historical terms as I'm not as familiar with it.

Never heard Musahsi and Tadakatsu facing each other at Sekigahara though. That's a new one :huh:

Game-wise though, they all have similarities in one way or another. Splitting hairs to find who is "the Lu Bu" equivalent :mellow:
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I found that in some google site here long ago, but i don't know if it's true or not, but someone says that he read it from a book.
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Historical Sengoku information is rare, especially in English.

Most of what I've read has been from here and a few other general sites. I generally don't get into the history of it much because not speaking Japanese or at least understanding how to read it puts me at a disadvantage, and I generally don't trust the English translations available online.

I picked up that mentality pretty early on here after something SRS posted. He's one of the small handful of people around here I can put confidence in when it comes to Japanese history.
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I don't have books actually, i just read from some sites, and i rarely find something about the Sengoku Era.

Well, let head back to the game. :P
The answer why Tadakatsu doesn't get a new theme while Lu Bu get one is, Lu Bu is overrated so much while Tadakatsu not. It's the truth :mellow:
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Not sure which games Lu Bu's gotten a new mix lately ... Only really like the WO series version anyway :mellow:
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Tadakatsu is not overrated? :mellow:
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Yeah, that's news to me. :mellow:
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Mr.Honda
Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:29 pm
Not sure which games Lu Bu's gotten a new mix lately ... Only really like the WO series version anyway :mellow:
DW4 Theme was the best man.
Ifrit
Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:29 pm
Tadakatsu is not overrated? :mellow:
I don't see him overrated as much as Lu Bu. Lu Bu isn't only overrated in videogames, even in the history he is overrated. Such as Three bros VS Lu Bu i mean seriously? Even a monster can't do that if you think about it.
Guan Yu was a great general some say he was the greatest warrior in China, and Zhang Fei also was a great general.

How didn't both of them in the same time VS Lu Bu alone can't beat Lu Bu. It was a fictional novel actually but a lot of people think it is real.
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The only thing Tadakatsu has going for him is that he came multiple times unscathed out of battle. History never stated he was at the frontlines of most battles he fought, he could've been a commanding officer in nearly all of em.
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I actually didn't see a lot of his history, but there was a battle Tokugawa VS Toyotomi, Tadakatsu was standing alone against The Toyotomi army, in that moment, the history says Hideyoshi didn't let his army kill or attack Tadakatsu because he proved his courage with that thing.
Also Nobunaga said Tadakatsu is''The Samurai of Samurai'' ''among men Tadakatsu'' and Shingen also says ''he is a luxury of Tokugawa Ieyasu".

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Ifrit
Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:22 pm
The only thing Tadakatsu has going for him is that he came multiple times unscathed out of battle. History never stated he was at the frontlines of most battles he fought, he could've been a commanding officer in nearly all of em.
I've often wondered about that myself ... but he also had his Komaki stand, as LDW mentioned.

A lot of that stuff gets embellished as the legend grows, same can be said for just about everyone in that era :mellow:
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I actually don't believe that myself Tadakatsu was never injured in the battle. :P
Just like the thing before that Lu Bu VS The Three brothers. (when i searched about that it's just fictional)
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That last was entirely too long :asia:

I'm sure he escaped major injury, but yea if he indeed fought on the front lines, no way he was completely unscathed.
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Maybe it's just fictional thing. Tadakatsu's horse was known as Mikuniguro. :mellow:
Also i have read this site long ago about Tadakatsu using google translater.
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Perhaps, but like I said, it could be just fictionalized history. He could very well have escaped every battle without serious injury, whether he battled on the front lines or not.

Hard to say either way what really happened in history since I believe most of those records were lost/destroyed a long time ago :mellow:

Meh, I'm so knowledgeably challenged in Sengoku history anyway :|

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Oyamada, begin the attack!
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Quite the force you assembled, rival :mellow:
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