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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:50 am Post #137476 |
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:06 am Post #137477 |
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Sometimes it really does seem like it's just you and me who like Ma Chao around here
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:08 am Post #137478 |
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It seems so. But fun area members usually don't like the type of characters we do tho
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:10 am Post #137479 |
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That is true, even if we do vary a bit, as a whole it's the warrior types, just slightly different variants in some cases ![]() Such as my dislike of Tadakatsu
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:11 am Post #137480 |
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It's strange you dislike Tadakatsu tho.
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:12 am Post #137481 |
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I'm also not fond of Cao Ren or Pang De who I'd put in a similar kind of position (just without the 'peerless might')
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:15 am Post #137482 |
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Im not a fan of these 2 ![]() The reason why u dislike Tadakatsu is because he stole Keiji's place
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:17 am Post #137483 |
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It certainly contributes ![]() Along with the arguments I had on here 8 or so years ago relating to that topic ![]() I never did like him though, he's a bit too bland for my tastes. I normally prefer ones with strong will or who end up being the underdog in some respect, Tadakatsu just needs his 'peerless might' normally. He has his moments like at Mikatagahara when he's the vanguard, but normally he doesn't have such situations. I wouldn't like Lu Bu if he didn't have such a firey personality as just being strong is quite boring to me ![]() Same reason I don't like Guan Yu much, but Zhang Fei is quite good to me. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:25 am Post #137484 |
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I understand the personality myself. I admit that Lu Bu has a better personality than Tadakatsu, because it's a videogame, and guys like Lu Bu are badass in videogames. to be fair I like Tadakatsu more than Lu Bu because of the history itself, Lu Bu in history was such a fool and disrespectful, about the videogame, Lu Bu is a fool for following and protecting Diao Chan tho. ![]() Tadakatsu is loyal and honorbale warrior, he is a lone wolf, he doesnt follow or "get fooled" by a woman. He is a wise powerful warrior. his Japanese voice is also kinda beastly espicially when his yells, it's EPICNESS
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:26 am Post #137485 |
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Boop. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:29 am Post #137486 |
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:33 am Post #137487 |
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Sometimes Lu Bu was smarter than that. Dynasty Tactics for one (as she didn't appear) ![]() DW6 he saw right through her and just didn't care ![]() It's weird with that, but it normally seems a bit...strange in how it's actually done. Could be done in an alright way, but they rarely do. Also I don't get why people in the lounge are arguing over Ma Chao's justice ![]() It seems pointless, to demand justice doesn't mean to be just to everyone while doing so, but most people calling him a hypocrite don't seem to care about that ![]() I mean it's in the name of his personal justice, not the ideal of justice (which personally he could believe are the same, but that's irrelevant) Edited by Sanada, Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:35 am.
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:35 am Post #137488 |
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lol, but him being a hypocrite sure doesn't help spread along the message of BENEVOLENCE. Or is that Jiang Wei that keeps screaming that? God, I hate that word. Edit: If it was for personal justice, fine, but he always goes on about the overall justice, the ideal of justice. Which, yeah... kind of hurts your case when you say one person's justice is better/greater than another's. Maybe not hyprocritical, but certainly douchey behavior. "MY PERSONAL SUFFERING IS WORSE THAN YOURS! GRRRRR!" Edited by ChibiGingi, Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:37 am.
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:36 am Post #137489 |
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Jiang Wei's is just horrible ![]() Zhuge overuses it enough, but Jiang Wei is just all over that word. ![]() Ma Chao uses it sometimes when referring to Liu Bei I believe, but don't think he goes all in on it directly. Might be wrong though. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:37 am Post #137490 |
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Lu Bu in DW Tactics is really really great character. DW should have made Lu Bu like that tbh. I really liked him more than DW Lu Bu. Even his death was EPIC. He is not even a fool like DW. I think they are taking justice meaning to be a "hero" |
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| Mr.Honda | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:37 am Post #137491 |
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This is why I stick to SW series
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:38 am Post #137492 |
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Ma Chao would be a LOT better in my eyes of Koei actually had him react appropriately to Wang Yi. Own up, man. Don't act like you don't know what you did. Own that event and be like 'YEP, BECAUSE YOUR FAMILY WAS INJUST' or something. Just sayin', acting like you don't know why this woman hates you doesn't help in the least. Makes you look daft. |
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:40 am Post #137493 |
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Well if someone believes in their own personal justice, that is then what justice as a whole means to them. Anyone against that ideal is unjust, it's a common thing. Religious zealots spout that sort of stuff in everything ![]() I will agree it can be seen as a negative trait though. I personally like it more than straight up revenge though, despite that basically being what it is. I agree there though, I really do not get why they handled Wany Yi and him like they did. ![]() And yeah, DT Lu Bu is so much better. DW is so bad in comparison for some reason.
Edited by Sanada, Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:42 am.
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:43 am Post #137494 |
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If anything, that's why I like Wang Yi's inclusion. It shows how one's personal justice CAN be a negative trait, and the fact that Koei doesn't BS around the issue is nice. It's okay NOT to like Ma Chao for what he did to Wang Yi's family in the name of 'justice'... but it's also okay to like Ma Chao for the same reasons. Just because someone says they are 'just', doesn't always mean they're immediately in the right. The bit of grey that exists between the Ma Chao vs Wang Yi situation is refreshing... just like seeing how Jiang Wei's desperate clinging to the whole idea of benevolence actually HURTS itself when they refuse to give up and only end up hurting themselves and the people they're trying to protect. |
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:45 am Post #137495 |
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Yeah, I agree really. Although I preferred her in DW7XL, by DW8 it's gone a bit too...creepy for my liking ![]() I mean, sure, have revenge, even live for revenge if that's what you want, but you don't need to make those weird comments about it too
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:45 am Post #137496 |
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I honostly myself like revenge stories too much
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:47 am Post #137497 |
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Yeaaaaaaah... she did get a little weird with her whole thing. Can't deny that. Honestly, I simply prefer Wang Yi because I like her moveset more than Ma Chao. That's really it. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:49 am Post #137498 |
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O never cared about her tho. I like Ma Chao since DW5
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| Sanada | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:50 am Post #137499 |
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I really do like Wang Yi, was my favourite of the 7XL adds both in moveset and character. ...but Ma Chao has been one of my favourites since the PS2 days, and has consistently had enjoyable movesets ![]() Well normally at least *coughDW6cough* Not that those counter each other at all, but since DW5:XL in particular I really found myself getting engaged in Ma Chao's retributive justice (that stage with him and Pang De striking against Cao Cao helped sell me on that, although Dynasty Tactics also contributed) |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:52 am Post #137500 |
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DW6 Ma Chao was really terrible.
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